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« on: May 22, 2012, 03:22:02 pm »
NAME:
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TEXT:
Ornate - Other permanents can't be targetted while this is in play. Generates 2 random quantum each turn.
NAME:
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ELEMENT:
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COST:
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TYPE:
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TEXT:
Ornate
Generates 2 random quantum each turn and when you play this card.


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Re: Ornate Pillar | Ornate Tower https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40555.msg502457#msg502457
« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2012, 11:27:01 pm »
Does this stack?
This seems too situational.

Edit: The unupped seems too situational
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Re: Ornate Pillar | Ornate Tower https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40555.msg502464#msg502464
« Reply #2 on: May 22, 2012, 11:45:26 pm »
Does this stack?
This seems too situational.

Edit: The unupped seems too situational

it stacks, but the entire stack is targettable.  it is situational, but it is a beneficial effect, and its free to play.  i would have given it some manner of quanta generation, but its hard to fit.
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Re: Ornate Pillar | Ornate Tower https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40555.msg503207#msg503207
« Reply #3 on: May 24, 2012, 03:14:43 pm »
upped the power level of the unupped ability to match the upped and added quanta production.
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Re: Ornate Pillar | Ornate Tower https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40555.msg503214#msg503214
« Reply #4 on: May 24, 2012, 03:42:51 pm »
isn't it a bit overpowered? It's like Protect artifact but it protects every permanent except itself.
With only 3 of them you already need 3 PC to even be able to touch the enemy shield/weapon.
Denial becomes very difficult.

On the other side I might also be wrong since with SoFo repeatable PC is more common.
Also there still are EQ, BE and Pulvy. If you see it like this, maybe the quanta production should be removed?

However, I kinda like the idea. It reminds me a lot of cloak. You'd then have to choose if you want to protect perms and
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Re: Ornate Pillar | Ornate Tower https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40555.msg503215#msg503215
« Reply #5 on: May 24, 2012, 03:47:42 pm »
isn't it a bit overpowered? It's like Protect artifact but it protects every permanent except itself.
With only 3 of them you already need 3 PC to even be able to touch the enemy shield/weapon.
Denial becomes very difficult.

On the other side I might also be wrong since with SoFo repeatable PC is more common.
Also there still are EQ, BE and Pulvy. If you see it like this, maybe the quanta production should be removed?

However, I kinda like the idea. It reminds me a lot of cloak. You'd then have to choose if you want to protect perms and
gain quanta or protect both creatures and perms. I'll follow this discussion :)

i actually originally had it with no production, i think that made it too weak.  this might be too strong though... i tried making it only protect pillars/pendulums but that didn't fit on the card.
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Re: Ornate Pillar | Ornate Tower https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40555.msg503216#msg503216
« Reply #6 on: May 24, 2012, 03:51:05 pm »
"Ornate (- Other quanta sources are immaterial while in play).
Generates 2 random quanta each turn (and when you play this card)."

Is your desired mechanic. Still seems kinda good but I guess quanta denail isn't something anyone wants to see pushed.

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Re: Ornate Pillar | Ornate Tower https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40555.msg503221#msg503221
« Reply #7 on: May 24, 2012, 04:06:08 pm »
"Ornate (- Other quanta sources are immaterial while in play).
Generates 2 random quanta each turn (and when you play this card)."

Is your desired mechanic. Still seems kinda good but I guess quanta denail isn't something anyone wants to see pushed.

this would also protect quanta producing creatures. actually, that might not be a bad thing...
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Re: Ornate Pillar | Ornate Tower https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40555.msg503521#msg503521
« Reply #8 on: May 25, 2012, 06:51:45 am »


Quote from: dracomageat on Today at 08:51:05 AM<blockquote>"Ornate (- Other quanta sources are immaterial while in play).
Generates 2 random quanta each turn (and when you play this card)."

Is your desired mechanic. Still seems kinda good but I guess quanta denail isn't something anyone wants to see pushed.
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this would also protect quanta producing creatures. actually, that might not be a bad thing...


Worded like that, this seems like it would be awesome - possibly too awesome - in a RoL/Hope deck.
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Re: Ornate Pillar | Ornate Tower https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40555.msg503749#msg503749
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Quote from: dracomageat on Today at 08:51:05 AM<blockquote>"Ornate (- Other quanta sources are immaterial while in play).
Generates 2 random quanta each turn (and when you play this card)."

Is your desired mechanic. Still seems kinda good but I guess quanta denail isn't something anyone wants to see pushed.
</blockquote>


this would also protect quanta producing creatures. actually, that might not be a bad thing...


Worded like that, this seems like it would be awesome - possibly too awesome - in a RoL/Hope deck.

oh yeah, i didnt even think of that.  i was just looking at dragonfly and bunch of other free quinted cheap attackers.  im thinking with the effect as it is, i should drop the production to 1 quantum.
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