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Yatagarasu | Yatagarasu https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39557.msg491743#msg491743
« on: May 03, 2012, 12:51:52 am »
NAME:
Yatagarasu
ELEMENT:
Darkness
COST:
9 :darkness
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
7 | 5
TEXT:
Intervention: If a card were to be destroyed,  Yatagarasu takes one damage and deals 3 damage to the player instead.

NAME:
Yatagarasu
ELEMENT:
Darkness
COST:
10 :darkness
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
7 | 7
TEXT:
Intervention: If a card were to be destroyed,  Yatagarasu takes one damage and deals 3 damage to the player instead.


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Yatagarasu, the three legged raven.  Part of the Twilit series.

In Eastern mythology, this bird is known by several different names, but is unanimously a creature of great power and representative of heaven itself.

The connection to :darkness is evident, as crows and ravens are deemed to belong to darkness.  :light  is different.  Intervention comes from this urge to protect, but there is slight :darkness in its zealous protection as it fights back.

Intervention is not limited to your side.  Steal does constitute as destroying, if I understand it properly, as it just makes a copy on your side.

Considering Earthquake | Quicksand, the Intervention will only trigger once and no pillars will be destroyed.  I'm interpreting it for every activation/card used that would trigger some destruction.

And damage from spells that would lower HP to or past 0 trigger Intervention and the creatures stay alive for one turn.  Then they are treated like Spark.

After some deliberation, I've decided that anything that would destroy itself by its own effect does not affect it.  Meaning deathclock mechanics, as seen on Sundial or Dimensional Shield, nor shields like Bone Wall will trigger Intervention.  However, it still prevents Sacrifice and Dead or Live abilities.

Death by Acceleration | Overdrive or Poison does not affect Intervention.  Also, Intervention does not save Yatagarasu from itself.  If Yatagarsu were to die from a Spell, it'd be left at 0 but then it would die when it hits itself with Intervention and you, the owner, would take 3.

It will protect creatures from Flooding, but only for so long.  Damage will be done to the owner of Flooding | Inundation.

Note that Intervention is Passive.

Sparks do not trigger this and die anyways.
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Re: Yatagarasu | Yatagarasu https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39557.msg491747#msg491747
« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2012, 12:54:08 am »
I saw this on the chat ticker, instantly thought 'noob's yu-gi-oh ripoff', opened the topic, and found myself wrong. My bad. I need to study more mythology :S
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Re: Yatagarasu | Yatagarasu https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39557.msg491763#msg491763
« Reply #2 on: May 03, 2012, 01:18:23 am »
You should probably be able to fit an "and" in there; I was utterly confused at first.

It looks like a cloak that helps both sides but does damage.
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Re: Yatagarasu | Yatagarasu https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39557.msg491770#msg491770
« Reply #3 on: May 03, 2012, 01:53:58 am »
Augh, how did I miss that...  Thank you for pointing that out.

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Re: Yatagarasu | Yatagarasu https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39557.msg491771#msg491771
« Reply #4 on: May 03, 2012, 01:54:18 am »
How about this for wording:"Intervention: Whenever a card will be destroyed, Yatagarasu takes 1 damage and the card's owner takes 3 damage instead"
It just fits and I think it says what you were trying to say a little more clearly... tough squeeze making it all fit.
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Re: Yatagarasu | Yatagarasu https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39557.msg491773#msg491773
« Reply #5 on: May 03, 2012, 02:01:52 am »
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Re: Yatagarasu | Yatagarasu https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39557.msg491787#msg491787
« Reply #6 on: May 03, 2012, 02:39:50 am »
Hmmm, something Crow...

I like it. A tad expensive, but useful and worth it I think. What about EQ?
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Re: Yatagarasu | Yatagarasu https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39557.msg491790#msg491790
« Reply #7 on: May 03, 2012, 02:41:39 am »
Yatagarasu literally translates to Eight-Span Bird, regarding it's berth, majesty, and power.

EQ would trigger Intervention once and leave the stack alone.  Will amend OP with reasoning.
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Re: Yatagarasu | Yatagarasu https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39557.msg492262#msg492262
« Reply #8 on: May 03, 2012, 08:23:15 pm »
Ohh, this could be very nasty now that i think on it.
Consider the alfatoxin plague combo for a second... OTK on upped version if you're patient. Good way to punish people for stealing bonyards as well...
One question: How will this interact with bonewall? Technically every attack is a seperate event and would trigger the loss of a bone wall counter, each of which is typically considered an individual destruction event... That would be some serious punishment there. More or less a direct counter I would think.
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Re: Yatagarasu | Yatagarasu https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39557.msg492265#msg492265
« Reply #9 on: May 03, 2012, 08:25:32 pm »
make that 2 questions. This card cannot prevent its own death or the death of other copies in play correct?
That would probably be OP.
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Re: Yatagarasu | Yatagarasu https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39557.msg492332#msg492332
« Reply #10 on: May 03, 2012, 10:31:37 pm »
Ah, I haven't quite addressed that myself.

After some deliberation, I've decided that anything that would destroy itself by its own effect does not affect it.  Meaning deathclock mechanics, as seen on Sundial or Dimensional Shield, nor shields like Bone Wall will trigger Intervention.  However, it still prevents Sacrifice and Dead or Live abilities.

Death by Acceleration | Overdrive or Poison does not affect Intervention.  Also, Intervention does not save Yatagarasu from itself.  If Yatagarsu were to die from a Spell, it'd be left at 0 but then it would die when it hits itself with Intervention and you, the owner, would take 3 | 5 damage.

It will protect creatures from Flooding, but only for so long.  Damage will be done to the owner of Flooding | Inundation.

Note that Intervention is Passive.

Now for a question.  Would this be OP if it stacked?  E.g.  Multiple Yatagarasu triggering for only one Deflag?

Also, how should this work in the case of spells like Lightning?  Should it stop it entirely, or should some damage still be done to the target?

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Re: Yatagarasu | Yatagarasu https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39557.msg492382#msg492382
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