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Ball Lightning FG OTK (combo ready, not viable deck yet) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38966.msg484202#msg484202
« on: April 20, 2012, 11:26:41 am »
After watching this deck, i have been thinking in a FG OTK combo, but I couldn't make a viable deck with it yet.

Spoiler for intro and combo explanation:
The combo is: have in field 4 (protected) Shards of Freedom, and in hand 6 BL, a fractal and a Sky Blitz.
Play 6 Ball Lighting, fractal them, play the other 7 and sky blitz. The total damage is 13x15 = 195 unstoppable damage  >:(
So I thought of having a protected Titan or morning glory for the last 5 damage.

Spoiler for minimal combo cards:
This would be the minimal cards (may be Morning glory instead of Titan+PA)
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6s6 6s6 6s6 6s6 77i 7k1 7n9 809 809 809 809 809 809 80i

EDIT 1: forgot about the shard stacking, now there are only 2 PAs (shards and titan) or only 1 if using morning glory.

EDIT 2: first sketch:
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5rp 5rp 5rp 5rp 5rp 5rp 6s6 6s6 6s6 6s6 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 77i 7k1 7n9 808 808 808 808 808 808 808 808 809 809 809 809 809 809 80d 80d 80d 80d 80d 80d 80i 8pj


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« Last Edit: April 22, 2012, 04:32:12 pm by Chapuz »
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Re: Ball Lightning FG OTK (combo ready, not viable deck yet) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38966.msg484211#msg484211
« Reply #1 on: April 20, 2012, 11:38:22 am »
It seems a bit unwieldy to me- an eight card combo in hand with another 9 having already been played. Really interesting idea, though.
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Re: Ball Lightning FG OTK (combo ready, not viable deck yet) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38966.msg484215#msg484215
« Reply #2 on: April 20, 2012, 11:43:31 am »
Creative idea :D
How do you plan to stall or take minimal damage?
Mass shards or sundial chain?
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Re: Ball Lightning FG OTK (combo ready, not viable deck yet) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38966.msg484217#msg484217
« Reply #3 on: April 20, 2012, 11:52:08 am »
lobo, Dimentional Shield stall

PA from earth mark, you dont even need pendulums, just towers

Also i think you only need 1 PA for all 4 shard of freedom (stackable)
Use 2 fractal 2 ball instead of 6 Ball. first you fratal ball 1 and keep 6 in hand. Then you fractal again later before the kill

Keep in mind you need quite a bit of towers because fractal eats all your quanta

Don't bother with Titan, use 1 single lighting bolt instead for the 5 extra damage. (in the unfortunate cast of yoru lobo dealing 0 damage)

Interesting idea, play around with it =)
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Re: Ball Lightning FG OTK (combo ready, not viable deck yet) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38966.msg484219#msg484219
« Reply #4 on: April 20, 2012, 11:56:38 am »
Poke me if I'm wrong, but aren't all shards stacked?
I see there's only need for 1 PA, since you can play your Titan on the last turn anyway.
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Re: Ball Lightning FG OTK (combo ready, not viable deck yet) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38966.msg484221#msg484221
« Reply #5 on: April 20, 2012, 12:02:21 pm »
Yeah, they stack.

With a combo that only has the cards that are 100% necessary, you -need- draw power, and lots of it. Secondary is defence, and with the recent AI priority change against Dials, and in the interest of making this different from Instosis, it looks like you can go the Ghostal route (because you already need a substantial amount of :aether).
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Re: Ball Lightning FG OTK (combo ready, not viable deck yet) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38966.msg484241#msg484241
« Reply #6 on: April 20, 2012, 01:38:38 pm »
Yeah, they stack.

With a combo that only has the cards that are 100% necessary, you -need- draw power, and lots of it. Secondary is defence, and with the recent AI priority change against Dials, and in the interest of making this different from Instosis, it looks like you can go the Ghostal route (because you already need a substantial amount of :aether).
PA corrected. I know about the sundial priority in 1.3, so sundial+dim shields and tones of  :aether towers would be needed, or another stalling method.

[offtopic]Is there a complete list about AI decks and inteligence changes for 1.3?
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Re: Ball Lightning FG OTK (combo ready, not viable deck yet) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38966.msg485029#msg485029
« Reply #7 on: April 21, 2012, 06:33:03 pm »
somehow i got the feeling you inspired your deck on mine... :p

but you have only got 1 ball lightning in your deck so far. you need 6.
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Re: Ball Lightning FG OTK (combo ready, not viable deck yet) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38966.msg485085#msg485085
« Reply #8 on: April 21, 2012, 07:55:43 pm »
somehow i got the feeling you inspired your deck on mine... :p

but you have only got 1 ball lightning in your deck so far. you need 6.
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Re: Ball Lightning FG OTK (combo ready, not viable deck yet) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38966.msg485097#msg485097
« Reply #9 on: April 21, 2012, 08:13:07 pm »
lobo, Dimentional Shield stall

PA from earth mark, you dont even need pendulums, just towers

Also i think you only need 1 PA for all 4 shard of freedom (stackable)
Use 2 fractal 2 ball instead of 6 Ball. first you fratal ball 1 and keep 6 in hand. Then you fractal again later before the kill

Keep in mind you need quite a bit of towers because fractal eats all your quanta

Don't bother with Titan, use 1 single lighting bolt instead for the 5 extra damage. (in the unfortunate cast of yoru lobo dealing 0 damage)

Interesting idea, play around with it =)

Lightning bolt is a fantastic idea imo.  Don't think any gods have a reflcective shield.  If it wasn't for the sky blitz, you could run unupped novas, as of now I don't see any way to get  :entropy
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Re: Ball Lightning FG OTK (combo ready, not viable deck yet) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38966.msg485128#msg485128
« Reply #10 on: April 21, 2012, 09:07:16 pm »
somehow i got the feeling you inspired your deck on mine... :p

but you have only got 1 ball lightning in your deck so far. you need 6.
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http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38899.0

you answered on there (saying there actually already were ball ligtning otk's - but not with SoFr) before you made this thread.
but mine wasnt a FG otk.
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Re: Ball Lightning FG OTK (combo ready, not viable deck yet) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38966.msg485416#msg485416
« Reply #11 on: April 22, 2012, 04:08:38 pm »
Please explain to me where the Supernova quanta comes from...

 

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