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Best Weapon Idea Entry: Aether Dagger --> Aether Sword https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3842.msg36606#msg36606
« on: March 11, 2010, 04:10:04 pm »
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- A counter will be shown if there is more than 1 copy.
- When deflaged/stolen, only 1 copy is targeted
- A whole stack of Aether Sword only creates 1 copy.
- When flown:
     - Stats: 2|1 immaterial
     - Only 1 copy is flown
     - The ability is like PU on itself

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Re: Best Weapon Idea Entry: Aether Dagger --> Aether Sword https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3842.msg36622#msg36622
« Reply #1 on: March 11, 2010, 05:32:43 pm »
So if I have a stack of 5x Aether Daggers, the whole stack will deal 5 damage?
To be or not to be, I can do both at once. Go learn quantum mechanics, n00b.

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Re: Best Weapon Idea Entry: Aether Dagger --> Aether Sword https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3842.msg36627#msg36627
« Reply #2 on: March 11, 2010, 05:40:20 pm »
that would be... Well... too powerful. A forest spirit is easily destroyed (deal 1 damage use paradox)

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Re: Best Weapon Idea Entry: Aether Dagger --> Aether Sword https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3842.msg36633#msg36633
« Reply #3 on: March 11, 2010, 05:59:11 pm »
So if I have a stack of 5x Aether Daggers, the whole stack will deal 5 damage?
Yes.

that would be... Well... too powerful. A forest spirit is easily destroyed (deal 1 damage use paradox)
Forest spirit IS easily destroyed, but think about the cost

Forest spirit can go up to 5|5 using 2 :life+2 :water
This goes up to 5 dmg 15 :aether unupped, and 13 :aether upped

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Re: Best Weapon Idea Entry: Aether Dagger --> Aether Sword https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3842.msg36635#msg36635
« Reply #4 on: March 11, 2010, 06:01:44 pm »
Forest spirit IS easily destroyed, but think about the cost

Forest spirit can go up to 5|5 using 2 :life+2 :water
This goes up to 5 dmg 15 :aether unupped, and 13 :aether upped
*had a 27|27 forest spirit before*
So, what you are saying, 5 dmg. is the upper limit?

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Re: Best Weapon Idea Entry: Aether Dagger --> Aether Sword https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3842.msg36639#msg36639
« Reply #5 on: March 11, 2010, 06:19:33 pm »
*had a 27|27 forest spirit before*
So, what you are saying, 5 dmg. is the upper limit?
No, just an example.

When played, this and Spirit both have 1 atk, but Aether Dagger cost 1 more quantum, and Sword cost 7 more.

Each turn Spirit can +2 atk at 1 :water
Aether Dagger only +1, which is slower, at the cost of 3 :aether, which is higher
Aether Sword +1 at the cost of 1 :aether, which is still higher than Spirit

So, what I am saying, is a Forest Spirit IS easily destroyed, but is compensated by its power. A stack of Aether Dagger/Sword is hard to destroy, but is less powerful than a Spirit

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Re: Best Weapon Idea Entry: Aether Dagger --> Aether Sword https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3842.msg36645#msg36645
« Reply #6 on: March 11, 2010, 06:28:35 pm »
still, a limit of... lets say... 20? no? maybie more? less? what ever... should exzist. let's say i had a stack of aether swords, two of those flying and a pulvy, incase of a firewall. So i use those to add 3/0 a turn (one stack =1, therr stacks = 3) for the cost of three  :aether/turn. the pulvy is quintessanced. beat thet. kinda like my elite deja Vu reversed deck (never came out, beacouse it was treety much useless against stronger sheilds. Lets just say if you revind/reverse time a copy of a deja Vu [without the abilyty] you get a new one [with the abilyty]. so you had flying eternities and a pulvy (as i have saied: firewalls), sending copies back in your deck, gaining more and more and more... and more), high power, for low price. just better.

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Re: Best Weapon Idea Entry: Aether Dagger --> Aether Sword https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3842.msg36727#msg36727
« Reply #7 on: March 11, 2010, 09:07:03 pm »
When stolen or deflaged, do you steal/destroy all of them or just one?

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Re: Best Weapon Idea Entry: Aether Dagger --> Aether Sword https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3842.msg36738#msg36738
« Reply #8 on: March 11, 2010, 09:23:08 pm »
When stolen or deflaged, do you steal/destroy all of them or just one?
He said it's like bonewall, so i'm assuming it's only taking out a single layer, not the whole stack

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Re: Best Weapon Idea Entry: Aether Dagger --> Aether Sword https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3842.msg36749#msg36749
« Reply #9 on: March 11, 2010, 09:38:19 pm »
Then it's way overpowered.

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Re: Best Weapon Idea Entry: Aether Dagger --> Aether Sword https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3842.msg36750#msg36750
« Reply #10 on: March 11, 2010, 09:38:49 pm »
not my favorite...

btw, everyone talks about cost-effect ratio...let's remember that this isn't MtG...it is VERY possible to get 3 towers first turn, which means you have 7 quanta at eot. That means the upped version comes out on 3rd turn, without playing any more towers. With 4 towers first turn, this comes out 2nd turn. The amount of quanta built up with these also means you can use the ability every turn. This game is very different from other games when dealing with cost ratios, since Towers give 2 quanta first turn, can be played multiples per turn, and quanta is rolled over each turn.

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Re: Best Weapon Idea Entry: Aether Dagger --> Aether Sword https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3842.msg36751#msg36751
« Reply #11 on: March 11, 2010, 09:39:50 pm »
And it may as well be immortal, as there's no way to destroy it besides steal and deflag, which it would easily get around.

 

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