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Suddenly......Dragons! [Fire] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37212.msg466974#msg466974
« on: March 04, 2012, 01:59:27 am »
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This deck was just made to show off how horribly broken SoBe can be. Since it only costs 1 :fire to play, and gives you 3 cards, it's very likely you'll draw more than one tower, so you can get back what you paid as well as having more quanta. Crimson dragons were chosen since they had the best damage/cost ratio of all fire creatures, but exact fire creatures and QI can be further improved. This deck is fast. Seriously. This has been getting 4-6 TTWs against AI3. It's amazing getting out two 12atk dragons by turn two. Closest I've had with losing with this deck is when I've almost decked myself out :P

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Also, here's a water variant that, while slower, is still insanely fast and powerful just to show how OP SoBe is in not fire decks.
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Re: Suddenly......Dragons! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37212.msg466986#msg466986
« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2012, 02:20:22 am »
i think it will be similar to all other elements as well right ??
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Re: Suddenly......Dragons! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37212.msg466988#msg466988
« Reply #2 on: March 04, 2012, 02:22:30 am »
Yep. This is pretty much the perfect way to show how OP SoBe is.
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Re: Suddenly......Dragons! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37212.msg466992#msg466992
« Reply #3 on: March 04, 2012, 02:35:06 am »
Fire especially. But yeah, just pick the 6 most hard hitting efficient creatures of an element, add 6 SoBe, then fill with towers. You get an extremely fast powerful deck. I haven't tested with anything but AI3, but against AI3, I haven't lost once, and tend to get 4-6TTW. I'm not sure if this will work against H-Bs and FGs, since this deck is all about speed, and getting your dragons before your opponent gets quanta. Of course, after the first few turns, if they have control, that can put quite a damper on you, but for AI3, it takes them nearly at least 3 turns to get enough quanta for control, especially if you go first. If you go first, you can nearly guarantee at least one dragon the next turn. The Fahrenheit included in the :fire deck is just to add to damage. Only one Fahrenheit is added, so it doesn't clog your hand when you use SoBe. Chaining SoBe is so satisfying. But yeah, the play style is so simple. If you have any towers, play all towers. If you have any SoBes, play it, then check if you have any towers, play all your towers and SoBes you have, place down Fahrenheit if you have it, and just drop dragons down whenever you can. Enjoy a fast win!

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Re: Suddenly......Dragons! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37212.msg467309#msg467309
« Reply #4 on: March 04, 2012, 07:14:38 pm »
Could you use a Mark of Fire in the Water deck? It doesn't look like you'll have too many quanta problems (18 sources), but the extra six possible cards seems quite alluring. Of course, Water Towers will have to be used over Water Pendulums.

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Re: Suddenly......Dragons! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37212.msg467320#msg467320
« Reply #5 on: March 04, 2012, 08:09:36 pm »
Could you use a Mark of Fire in the Water deck? It doesn't look like you'll have too many quanta problems (18 sources), but the extra six possible cards seems quite alluring. Of course, Water Towers will have to be used over Water Pendulums.
Perhaps. Either way, this deck isn't that useful after the SoBe nerf. It was originally meant to get out all your towers in the first few turns so you could pump dragons out like mad. With the nerf, you can no longer keep chaining SoBes and draw like crazy.

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Re: Suddenly......Dragons! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37212.msg467355#msg467355
« Reply #6 on: March 04, 2012, 10:02:17 pm »
i think the nerf is ok if everybody is happy.... and it is not affected much yet
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Re: Suddenly......Dragons! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37212.msg467433#msg467433
« Reply #7 on: March 05, 2012, 01:50:10 am »
i think the nerf is ok if everybody is happy.... and it is not affected much yet
Is it? I haven't tested this deck since the nerf. If you have the time, please go ahead and test it and tell me if it is still effective. It's probably not, since it loses a lot of speed and your opponent will have the control needed to kill your dragons.

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Re: Suddenly......Dragons! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37212.msg467532#msg467532
« Reply #8 on: March 05, 2012, 05:13:00 am »
ya slow down a lot.... especially since in first turn you cannot draw that fast.... your cards are limited by opponents hand.... but i still like it.... it improve my stalling deck...
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« Reply #9 on: March 05, 2012, 05:26:40 am »
i just try again  with the first fire dragon deck.... won 24 out of  30... 3 of them due to decks out..... it is still ok..... and the fastest is turn 6 to win ai 3.... it is still effective furball....though not that fast
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Re: Suddenly......Dragons! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37212.msg467571#msg467571
« Reply #10 on: March 05, 2012, 06:06:57 am »
Didn't really expect it to be that useful after the nerf. A 6 creature deck is heavily susceptible to control and reliant on speed. While this concept is definitely still playable, I expect to see SoBe in firestall type decks more.

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Re: Suddenly......Dragons! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37212.msg467583#msg467583
« Reply #11 on: March 05, 2012, 06:15:54 am »
i play a more careful game..... sorry but i add three firebolts.... to kill maxwell demon and stuff..... but just three.... so it is still useful
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