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Heart of Initiative | Heart of Initiative https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36805.msg462063#msg462063
« on: February 19, 2012, 04:14:58 am »
NAME:
Heart of Initiative
ELEMENT:
Fire
COST:
5 :fire
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
Deal up to 10 of target creature's attack to your opponent. Gain 4 :fire if creature is :fire .
NAME:
Heart of Initiative
ELEMENT:
Fire
COST:
3 :fire
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
Deal up to 10 of target creature's attack to your opponent. Gain 4 :fire if creature is :fire .
ART:
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IDEA:
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NOTES:
This Card is doing the damage.
SERIES:

NAME:
Shard of Initiative
ELEMENT:
Other
COST:
5
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
Deal up to 10 of target creature's attack to your opponent. Gain 4 :fire if creature is :fire .
NAME:
Shard of Initiative
ELEMENT:
Other
COST:
3
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
Deal up to 10 of target creature's attack to your opponent. Gain 4 :fire if creature is :fire .
ART:
Zanz
IDEA:
EmeraldTiger, Iman00b8
NOTES:
The shard is causing the damage.
SERIES:

NAME:
Shard of Initiative
ELEMENT:
Other
COST:
4
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
Deal X damage to your opponent. X = target creature's attack.  Gain 4 :fire   if Creature is :fire .
NAME:
Shard of Initiative
ELEMENT:
Other
COST:
3
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
Deal X damage to your opponent. X = target creature's attack.  Gain 4 :fire   if Creature is :fire .
ART:
Zanz
IDEA:
EmeraldTiger, Rutarete
NOTES:
The shard is causing the damage.
SERIES:
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Re: Shard of Initiative | Shard of Initiative https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36805.msg462065#msg462065
« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2012, 04:19:17 am »
Seems OP because you can just cast this on a powerful creature and then it acts like you just dived it. In addition, with one of these, by placing it on a fire creature, you can chain these indefinitely. You could easily make an OTK with dragons and six of these. The quanta regain also means this is basically a free spell that doesn't mess up mulligan and can deal over 10 damage per shot.

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Re: Shard of Initiative | Shard of Initiative https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36805.msg462066#msg462066
« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2012, 04:20:09 am »
Seems interesting, though it may get to be OPy... you could just add a limit of like 10 or something though :)

Also, iirc, shards tend to be 5 unupped, 3 upped :D (minus SoP, ofc)
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Re: Shard of Initiative | Shard of Initiative https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36805.msg462260#msg462260
« Reply #3 on: February 19, 2012, 05:13:09 pm »
updated.
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Re: Shard of Initiative | Shard of Initiative https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36805.msg462279#msg462279
« Reply #4 on: February 19, 2012, 05:32:52 pm »
seems to fit and have a nice balancing mechanism, i just question how worth using it is for a deck outside of fire
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Re: Shard of Initiative | Shard of Initiative https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36805.msg462291#msg462291
« Reply #5 on: February 19, 2012, 05:51:37 pm »
DevilLoss thinks the upped damage should be up to 15. outside a fire deck may need play tested. It would still do the damage either way.
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Re: Shard of Initiative | Shard of Initiative https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36805.msg462294#msg462294
« Reply #6 on: February 19, 2012, 05:55:36 pm »
it would still see limited use, even if it were up to 15.  how common are 10+ atk creatures, and is doing (up to) 15 damage once worth 5 | 3 ? creature cards with a decent atk|cost ratio would outperform it majorly.  leaving the only justifiable use in decks where :fire is used, essentially making it a 1 | -1 net cost card for the damage done.

basically as a result, i think it is a good :fire card idea, but maybe not a mechanic suited for a shard
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Re: Heart of Initiative | Heart of Initiative https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36805.msg462311#msg462311
« Reply #7 on: February 19, 2012, 06:40:31 pm »
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Re: Heart of Initiative | Heart of Initiative https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36805.msg462419#msg462419
« Reply #8 on: February 19, 2012, 09:50:57 pm »
I quite like this, I liked it btr as a shard simply b/c I could use it to get back quanta, but it's still nice.
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Re: Heart of Initiative | Heart of Initiative https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36805.msg462427#msg462427
« Reply #9 on: February 19, 2012, 10:10:27 pm »
I actually see this as more of a Life card, as the concept of empowering the elemental's spell with their summoned creatures' power thematically fits with Life's emphasis on creatures. Plus, it solves some of the problems with getting shut down by shields that Life has.
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Re: Heart of Initiative | Heart of Initiative https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36805.msg462464#msg462464
« Reply #10 on: February 20, 2012, 12:20:25 am »
Reflectable?
And this would have been OP as a shard because you could essentially gain 3 :fire from otherwise useless immo quanta+awesome damage.

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Re: Heart of Initiative | Heart of Initiative https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36805.msg462562#msg462562
« Reply #11 on: February 20, 2012, 03:55:12 am »
thast just it, after the nerf to immo, this would make up for it
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