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D.O.V.E[pvp][Arena] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36401.msg457592#msg457592
« on: February 07, 2012, 05:01:34 pm »
D.O.V.E-Dis-hole Overdriven Voodoo Excalibur  (thank you for name suggestion mathematistic :D)
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the main strategy is to overdrive you dolls and let them kill the other player, while preventing it from playing anything at all as much  as possible, giving time for your dolls and healing you along the way as a bonus

some CC just in case some creatures slip past the denial
the single animate weapon is there because i really didnt have anything else to put, but you might change it to a forth discord to make it come out more often

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Re: Denial Dolls[pvp][Arena] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36401.msg457597#msg457597
« Reply #1 on: February 07, 2012, 05:14:17 pm »
Like what I commented in absol's thread, it looks a but tight on :entropy. Not sure what happens actually.
That aside, combining Voodoo overdrive with dishole is a smart act. Nice one  ;D

Also, name suggestion: D.O.V.E. (Dis-hole Overdrive Voodoo Excalibur)
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Re: Denial Dolls[pvp][Arena] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36401.msg457598#msg457598
« Reply #2 on: February 07, 2012, 05:16:57 pm »
Like what I commented in absol's thread, it looks a but tight on :entropy. Not sure what happens actually.
That aside, combining Voodoo overdrive with dishole is a smart act. Nice one  ;D

Also, name suggestion: D.O.V.E. (Dis-hole Overdrive Voodoo Excalibur)
love that name :O

ill change it right away +karma to you :P

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Re: Denial Dolls[pvp][Arena] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36401.msg457600#msg457600
« Reply #3 on: February 07, 2012, 05:20:56 pm »
Like what I commented in absol's thread, it looks a but tight on :entropy. Not sure what happens actually.
That aside, combining Voodoo overdrive with dishole is a smart act. Nice one  ;D

Also, name suggestion: D.O.V.E. (Dis-hole Overdrive Voodoo Excalibur)
love that name :O

ill change it right away +karma to you :P
Oh, thanks!
(Lol, I'm kinda good at puns...)
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Re: D.O.V.E[pvp][Arena] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36401.msg457610#msg457610
« Reply #4 on: February 07, 2012, 05:36:19 pm »
I'd change the Animate Weapon for Butterfly effect or Momentum, so you can at least surpass shield.
Because of lobotomize it's still okay to have 4 overdrive.
BE will allow you to immediately use the effect, if the doll was on the field at least one turn.
If a Mind Flayer is your opponent you still have a spare overdrive to use on him :)

By the way, do you draw dolls often enough in your starting hand?
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Re: D.O.V.E[pvp][Arena] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36401.msg457613#msg457613
« Reply #5 on: February 07, 2012, 05:40:44 pm »
I'd change the Animate Weapon for Butterfly effect or Momentum, so you can at least surpass shield.
Because of lobotomize it's still okay to have 4 overdrive.
BE will allow you to immediately use the effect, if the doll was on the field at least one turn.
If a Mind Flayer is your opponent you still have a spare overdrive to use on him :)

By the way, do you draw dolls often enough in your starting hand?
most of the time yes, you really only need 1 in your starting hand

i made a variation with BE and momentum, but im not putting those because an early discord and BH is all i need to prevent a counter to the dolls (assuming i can have dis-hole early in game lol)

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Re: D.O.V.E[pvp][Arena] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36401.msg457622#msg457622
« Reply #6 on: February 07, 2012, 06:05:25 pm »
Excalibur? Which part? (i thought i'll see Morning Glory)
Also, yes. BE in place of Animate Weapon. You really only need 1 Discord, the rest are there for speed.

EDIT: I noticed you credit my deck for this. You don't really need to include the tag [AI3][PVP], though.
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Re: D.O.V.E[pvp][Arena] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36401.msg457623#msg457623
« Reply #7 on: February 07, 2012, 06:09:07 pm »
I'd say that BE is not effective considering how many :entropy towers you have in the deck...
The animate weapon might be too gimmicky to be actually useful, though.
For the PC, how about some pends and some steals, as suggested in absol's thread?
I really can't give further comments here, I am not familiar with quanta balancing, especially in trios (although this is technically a :air :darkness :entropy :gravity quartet).

Excalibur? Which part? (i thought i'll see Morning Glory)
And I thought the discords can suffice...
Also, if an artillery shell can be called Excalibur, why not an overdriven voodoo doll?  :P
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Re: D.O.V.E[pvp][Arena] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36401.msg457624#msg457624
« Reply #8 on: February 07, 2012, 06:12:43 pm »
I'd say that BE is not effective considering how many :entropy towers you have in the deck...
The animate weapon might be too gimmicky to be actually useful, though.
For the PC, how about some pends and some steals, as suggested in absol's thread?
I really can't give further comments here, I am not familiar with quanta balancing, especially in trios (although this is technically a :air :darkness :entropy :gravity quartet).

Excalibur? Which part? (i thought i'll see Morning Glory)
And I thought the discords can suffice...
Also, if an artillery shell can be called Excalibur, why not an overdriven voodoo doll?  :P
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Re: D.O.V.E[pvp][Arena] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36401.msg457625#msg457625
« Reply #9 on: February 07, 2012, 06:13:11 pm »
Excalibur? Which part? (i thought i'll see Morning Glory)
Also, yes. BE in place of Animate Weapon. You really only need 1 Discord, the rest are there for speed.
but i likes the name :P
its a possible change indeed but i think at the moment, all suggested changes will simply change not the effectiveness of the deck, but the style of the deck and how you wish to play it, but if i would use it on arena, i would probably put that BE to destroy pesky shields and have another counter to mono-aether decks

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Re: D.O.V.E[pvp][Arena] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36401.msg457793#msg457793
« Reply #10 on: February 08, 2012, 03:36:57 am »
Why not unupped pandy? That way it could also help to damage your own dolls and deal damage as well as being cheaper. (though it might have the unwanted side effect of RTing or freezing or killing your doll)

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Re: D.O.V.E[pvp][Arena] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36401.msg457830#msg457830
« Reply #11 on: February 08, 2012, 06:14:58 am »
Why not unupped pandy? That way it could also help to damage your own dolls and deal damage as well as being cheaper. (though it might have the unwanted side effect of RTing or freezing or killing your doll)
Because the pande would hinder your overdrive damage output, whether by freezing, RT'ing, lobotomizing, etc.
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