Quanta Leak | Quanta Leak

[TheManuz]

NAME: Quanta Leak ELEMENT: Water COST: 2 TYPE: Spell ATK|HP: TEXT: Absorb half of the quanta (rounded up) from the opponent. Gain the absorbed quanta.	NAME: Quanta Leak ELEMENT: Water COST: 1 TYPE: Spell ATK|HP: TEXT: Absorb half of the quanta (rounded up) from the opponent. Gain the absorbed quanta.

ART: TheManuz IDEA: TheManuz NOTES: This is kind of a crossover between Nova and Black Hole. It's intended to deny opponent's quanta only through consecutive uses, and it can help the player in gaining opponent's type of quanta. Useful for stolen permanent, Mindgates, Twin Universes, to resist Nightmare by playing its creatures or simply to get a quanta boost. It can also be used to effectively halve the resistance of Dissipation Shields. The first version costed 4 |3 and it absorbed half of quanta rounded down. However, after some testing against the cpu i found that it's not powerful like i thought initially, so i decided (thanks to OldTrees feedbacks) to lower the cost and enabling the denial (by absorbing half quanta rounded up), effectively giving this card another purpose. I know it's not a powercard, but i think that it enables new strategies, and i believe it could help some creative decks. SERIES:

[OldTrees]

Nova: 1 per element net swing
Supernova: 2 per non  net swing
Black Hole: up to 3 per element net swing and hp
Quanta Leak: Opponent's quanta round down to closest even number net swing

1) Why leak? It can be more quanta than Supernova.
2) Why water?
3) How much quanta do you expect is gained with each use on average? (rough estimate)

[TheManuz]

Nova: 1 per element net swing
Supernova: 2 per non  net swing
Black Hole: up to 3 per element net swing and hp
Quanta Leak: Opponent's quanta round down to closest even number net swing

1) Why leak? It can be more quanta than Supernova.
2) Why water?
3) How much quanta do you expect is gained with each use on average? (rough estimate)

1) Because it's leaking from the opponent quanta.
2) Because of the leak theme. The picture explains it better. I also wanted to avoid explicitly and since they have Devourers and Black Holes.
3) Highly variable. I thought of many scenarios.
It can gain ~25-30 quanta from a mono stall deck in endgame.
It can gain ~48 (~4 quanta per element)  from a rainbow in midgame.
About ~3-5 (total) from a duo on the second/third turn.
On average i would say around ~8.

[OldTrees]

8 total quanta? (16 quanta swing) That sounds low.

[TheManuz]

8 total quanta? (16 quanta swing) That sounds low.

I'll do some matches on Arena, tracking quanta every turn, so i can make a real estimate.

EDIT:
I did some tests, it seems that i overestimated the effect of this card.
Bronze Arena Match: rush (+ 1 quantum pillar in late game)

Number of turn	1	2	3	4	5	6	7
Quanta Leak total	2	4	4	4	4	8	10

Average: 5.14

Silver Arena Match: duo

Number of turn	1	2	3	4	5
Quanta Leak total	1	2	2	3	3

Average: 2.2

Gold Arena Match: Mono with 3xMark

Number of turn	1	2	3	4	5	6	7	8	9
Quanta Leak total	2	2	3	2	2	2	2	2	3

Average: 2.22

Platinum Arena Match: Mono poison 2xMark

Number of turn	1	2	3	4
Quanta Leak total	6	4	6	8

Average: 6

FG: Hecate

Number of turn	1	2	3	4	5	6
Quanta Leak total	2	1	4	2	2	5

Average: 2.66

FG: Scorpio

Number of turn	1	2	3	4	5	6	7	8	9	10	11	12	13	14	15	16	17
Quanta Leak total	3	4	4	6	6	9	13	14	17	22	27	34	40	44	52	64	66

Average: 25
Possibilities from here:

Leave the card as it is now, decreasing cost to 2 |1 :waterMake the absorption rounded up, so it can be used for denial with consecutive castings.

What do you think is better? What is your opinion on this card?

[OldTrees]

Please try it against some PvP archetypes in the trainer. Those results are very counter intuitive. (5 turn game in Silver?)
I would expect:
Large impact vs Immolation and Supernova but low quanta gain
Small impact vs Elemental Rush and low quanta gain
Medium impact vs Elemental Stall and moderate quanta gain
High impact vs Rainbow Stall and high quanta gain

If the results remain consistent then a 2 |1 cost AND rounding up might be warranted.

[TheManuz]

Please try it against some PvP archetypes in the trainer. Those results are very counter intuitive. (5 turn game in Silver?)
I would expect:
Large impact vs Immolation and Supernova but low quanta gain
Small impact vs Elemental Rush and low quanta gain
Medium impact vs Elemental Stall and moderate quanta gain
High impact vs Rainbow Stall and high quanta gain

If the results remain consistent then a 2 |1 cost AND rounding up might be warranted.

LOL, in silver i encountered an old deck, with small HP!
I will test with those archetypes and post the results.
Thank you for your feedbacks!

[TheManuz]

I'm going to make a test with this massive rainbow deck found in the wiki:

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5oj 5oj 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6u7 6u7 71b 71b 71b 71b 74b 74b 77f 7ad 7ah 7ah 7ah 7am 7am 7am 7do 7do 7do 7dq 7dq 7dq 7gv 7h0 7k2 7n3 7n5 7q5 7t9 7t9 7t9 80d 80d 80d 80e 8po

Turn #	1	2	3	4	5	6	7	8	9	10	11	12
Quanta Leak rounded down	9	17	23	30	39	44	50	56	62	75	90	107
Quanta Leak rounded up	17	21	27	37	42	47	56	62	67	81	97	113

Average for rounded down: 50.16
Average for rounded up:      55.58

All values are taken from opponents' quanta pools left untouched.
Consecutive casts of Quanta leak would decrease its effectiveness in following turns.

[TheManuz]

Some time has passed since the last test... i'm busy with war and study and work!
Another test with a poison-stoneskin stall found in the wiki:

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718 718 718 718 718 718 719 719 71a 71a 778 778 778 778 778 778 778 778 778 778 778 778 778 778 778 778 778 77c 77c 77k 77k 77k 77k 77k 77k 8pk

Turn #	1	2	3	4	5	6	7	8	9	10	11	12	13	14	15	16
Quanta Leak rounded down	3	3	4	8	11	16	19	26	28	33	36	40	39	40	41	41
Quanta Leak rounded up	4	4	6	9	12	16	21	26	30	34	38	41	41	42	42	43

Average for rounded down: 24.25
Average for rounded up:      25.56

All values are taken from opponents' quanta pools left untouched.
Consecutive casts of Quanta leak would decrease its effectiveness in following turns.

[TheManuz]

This time against a NovaRush (always found in the wiki):

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6u1 6u1 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 71a 77e 77e 77e 77e 77e 7ah 7dp 7dp 7dp 7dp 7dp 7dp 7dq 7dq 7dq 7dq 7dq 7dq 7jp 7jp 7jp 7jr 80g 8pj

Turn #	1	2	3	4	5
Quanta Leak rounded down	3	4	12	11	10
Quanta Leak rounded up	14	15	21	20	18

Average for rounded down: 8
Average for rounded up:      17.6

All values are taken from opponents' quanta pools left untouched.
Consecutive casts of Quanta leak would decrease its effectiveness in following turns.

[TheManuz]

Examining the tests done, i think i can lower the cost to 2 |1 .
I'm unsure about the rounding of the quanta absorption, though, so i decided to open a poll.

[OldTrees]

I would look at the decks of renown pvpers/deck builders next time. The Forum is a better source than the Wiki. (FireStall, DiscordBlackhole, ...)

However the decks you selected are close enough that would agree

If the results remain consistent then a 2 |1 cost AND rounding up might be warranted.

2 |1 and round up.