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Wind-Up Shield | Wind-Up Shield https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30022.msg381796#msg381796
« on: August 18, 2011, 07:57:51 pm »
NAME:
Wind-Up Shield
ELEMENT:
Time
COST:
3 :time
TYPE:
Permanent - Shield
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
:time Wind: Raise Damage Reduction by 1. Loses 1 point of reduction per turn. 2 uses per turn. Min of 1. Max reduction of 4.
NAME:
Wind-Up Shield
ELEMENT:
Time
COST:
2 :time
TYPE:
Permanent - Shield
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
:time Wind: Raise Damage Reduction by 1. Loses 1 point of reduction per turn. 2 uses per turn. Min of 1. Max reduction of 4.
ART:
Emeraldtiger (unupped) and Zblader (upped)
IDEA:
Rutarete
NOTES:
Any preferences about the art?
NOTE: DR = Damage Reduction.
Damage Reduction goes down 1 at the end of the opponent's turn.
It is not destroyed if you don't pay the upkeep.
Minimum Damage Reduction is 0.
SERIES:
NAME:
Wind-Up Shield
ELEMENT:
Time
COST:
5 :time
TYPE:
Permanent - Shield
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
:time :time :time Wind: Raise Damage Reduction by 1. Loses 1 point of reduction each turn. 2 uses per turn. Max reduction of 4.
NAME:
Wind-Up Shield
ELEMENT:
Time
COST:
4 :time
TYPE:
Permanent - Shield
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
:time :time Wind: Raise Damage Reduction by 1. Loses 1 point of reduction each turn. 3 uses per turn. Max reduction of 4.
ART:
Emeraldtiger (unupped) and Zblader (upped)
IDEA:
Rutarete
NOTES:
Any preferences about the art?
NOTE: DR = Damage Reduction.
Damage Reduction goes down 1 at the end of the opponent's turn.
It is not destroyed if you don't pay the upkeep.
Minimum Damage Reduction is 0.
SERIES:
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Re: Wind-Up Shield | Wind-Up Shield https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30022.msg381804#msg381804
« Reply #1 on: August 18, 2011, 08:16:46 pm »
err DR?
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Re: Wind-Up Shield | Wind-Up Shield https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30022.msg381805#msg381805
« Reply #2 on: August 18, 2011, 08:17:45 pm »
err DR?
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Damage Reduction.
I thought the same thing at first when I saw it.
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Re: Wind-Up Shield | Wind-Up Shield https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30022.msg381807#msg381807
« Reply #3 on: August 18, 2011, 08:19:13 pm »
DR has been added to the notes for anyone else who needs it.
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Re: Wind-Up Shield | Wind-Up Shield https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30022.msg381808#msg381808
« Reply #4 on: August 18, 2011, 08:24:22 pm »
I think it's a bit expensive.  6|5(Casting cost) + 18|15(To get to 4 DR) + 3x(Upkeep) quanta for a 4 DR shield.  With summoning sickness. xD


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Re: Wind-Up Shield | Wind-Up Shield https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30022.msg383385#msg383385
« Reply #5 on: August 22, 2011, 04:57:34 am »
Upcoming changes:

1. Cost to be changed to 5 :time | 4 :time
2. Upped Wind cost to be changed to :time :time.

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Re: Wind-Up Shield | Wind-Up Shield https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30022.msg383387#msg383387
« Reply #6 on: August 22, 2011, 05:06:10 am »
I never like when people just tell me their thoughts in chat without posting what they said so I won't be hypocritical.

While I do like the changes, which are positive in my opinion, I still don't like the limit, nor the Damage Reduction short form, DR.

Loving the fact that this has perfect thematic expression though, changing with :time Time. In every sense.

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Re: Wind-Up Shield | Wind-Up Shield https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30022.msg383517#msg383517
« Reply #7 on: August 22, 2011, 05:13:18 pm »
I never like when people just tell me their thoughts in chat without posting what they said so I won't be hypocritical.

While I do like the changes, which are positive in my opinion, I still don't like the limit, nor the Damage Reduction short form, DR.

Loving the fact that this has perfect thematic expression though, changing with :time Time. In every sense.

EDIT: 4*. Would be 5 if it was how I recommended. A matter of personal taste though...
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Re: Wind-Up Shield | Wind-Up Shield https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30022.msg383533#msg383533
« Reply #8 on: August 22, 2011, 06:17:12 pm »
when does the card lose 1 defense? at the end of your turn or their turn?

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Re: Wind-Up Shield | Wind-Up Shield https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30022.msg383542#msg383542
« Reply #9 on: August 22, 2011, 06:34:27 pm »
when does the card lose 1 defense? at the end of your turn or their turn?
At the end of the opponent's turn. Good question. I'll add it to the notes.
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Re: Wind-Up Shield | Wind-Up Shield https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30022.msg383550#msg383550
« Reply #10 on: August 22, 2011, 07:00:51 pm »
ok.

The unupped one is way too expensive.  For 11 :time + 1 turn for summon sickness, you get a 2 defense shield that loses defense next turn unless you pay another 3 :time. Titanium shield is 4 :earth with no extra turn needed, no loss of defense.  Sure, this shield's defense can go higher, but that requires more turns and more quanta.

The upped one is a little better, but probably still on the expensive side.

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Re: Wind-Up Shield | Wind-Up Shield https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30022.msg383556#msg383556
« Reply #11 on: August 22, 2011, 07:12:24 pm »
ok.

The unupped one is way too expensive.  For 11 :time + 1 turn for summon sickness, you get a 2 defense shield that loses defense next turn unless you pay another 3 :time. Titanium shield is 4 :earth with no extra turn needed, no loss of defense.  Sure, this shield's defense can go higher, but that requires more turns and more quanta.

The upped one is a little better, but probably still on the expensive side.
How low would the cost/upkeep have to be to be OP?
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