*Author

AngeDeMort

  • Guest
Gather | Collect https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26912.msg342009#msg342009
« on: May 28, 2011, 01:17:15 pm »
NAME:
Gather
ELEMENT:
Other
COST:
3
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
Target creature now produces quanta matching it's element every turn
NAME:
Collect
ELEMENT:
Other
COST:
1
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
Target creature now produces quanta matching it's element every turn
ART:
Zanzarino for the marks
basket: http://www.sxc.hu/photo/968595
IDEA:
AngeDeMort
NOTES:
Gives the target gatherer status. Gatherer is lobotomizable and works like dragonfly's skill. Does not remove current skills
SERIES:



Manipul8r

  • Guest
Re: Gather | Collect https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26912.msg342019#msg342019
« Reply #1 on: May 28, 2011, 01:30:22 pm »
Far too UP for the cost, unless it produces much more than 1 quantum.  Existing generators all cost 0 or 1, and this requires a creature in play already (meaning you already have generated quanta of that type).

Offline The_Mormegil

  • Legendary Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 2262
  • Country: it
  • Reputation Power: 32
  • The_Mormegil is a Ghost, obsessed with their Elemental pursuits.The_Mormegil is a Ghost, obsessed with their Elemental pursuits.The_Mormegil is a Ghost, obsessed with their Elemental pursuits.The_Mormegil is a Ghost, obsessed with their Elemental pursuits.The_Mormegil is a Ghost, obsessed with their Elemental pursuits.The_Mormegil is a Ghost, obsessed with their Elemental pursuits.
  • Intelligence is overrated.
  • Awards: Slice of Elements 10th Birthday CakeWar #5 Winner - Team AetherTeam PvP WinnerNew Slot Winner - FamiliarDeadly Sin Winner - GluttonyFirst Budosei of BudokanWinner of Revive the Archive
Re: Gather | Collect https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26912.msg342023#msg342023
« Reply #2 on: May 28, 2011, 01:42:22 pm »
Could actually be a nice idea if it cost 1 quanta of a certain element (say, :life for enhanced Adrenaline synergy). It could act as mini-lobo, it could be used to round out quanta production in trio decks and its versatility + lobo effect would make for an intresting mechanic. Maybe even 2 :life | 1 :life.
[18:21:43] jmdt: elements is just math over top of a GUI
Kakerlake: I believe that there is no God as in something that can think by itself and does stuff that sounds way OP.

AngeDeMort

  • Guest
Re: Gather | Collect https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26912.msg342042#msg342042
« Reply #3 on: May 28, 2011, 02:26:51 pm »
Far too UP for the cost, unless it produces much more than 1 quantum.  Existing generators all cost 0 or 1, and this requires a creature in play already (meaning you already have generated quanta of that type).
Immolation and soul catcher require a creature to be played, and also die to produce quanta, this lets them live. I suppose I could lower the cost by 2 on each but it's meant to run in decks with more than 2 elements to help balance the quanta production and 6 quanta for a trio is pretty easy to get.

Could actually be a nice idea if it cost 1 quanta of a certain element (say, :life for enhanced Adrenaline synergy). It could act as mini-lobo, it could be used to round out quanta production in trio decks and its versatility + lobo effect would make for an intresting mechanic. Maybe even 2 :life | 1 :life.
It doesn't (at the moment) lobo, it's meant to be an additional skill the creature learns, supplementing any other skill the creature has. For example you throw this on a a deja vu, it doesn't lose it's deja vu skill it just gains the ability to produce :time. This would double the production of any creature that already produces quanta like dragonfly or gnome rider

Manipul8r

  • Guest
Re: Gather | Collect https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26912.msg342182#msg342182
« Reply #4 on: May 28, 2011, 05:42:45 pm »
Far too UP for the cost, unless it produces much more than 1 quantum.  Existing generators all cost 0 or 1, and this requires a creature in play already (meaning you already have generated quanta of that type).
Immolation and soul catcher require a creature to be played, and also die to produce quanta, this lets them live. I suppose I could lower the cost by 2 on each but it's meant to run in decks with more than 2 elements to help balance the quanta production and 6 quanta for a trio is pretty easy to get.

Could actually be a nice idea if it cost 1 quanta of a certain element (say, :life for enhanced Adrenaline synergy). It could act as mini-lobo, it could be used to round out quanta production in trio decks and its versatility + lobo effect would make for an intresting mechanic. Maybe even 2 :life | 1 :life.
It doesn't (at the moment) lobo, it's meant to be an additional skill the creature learns, supplementing any other skill the creature has. For example you throw this on a a deja vu, it doesn't lose it's deja vu skill it just gains the ability to produce :time. This would double the production of any creature that already produces quanta like dragonfly or gnome rider
Yes, but Immolation generates 7+11 quanta instantly.  Soul Catcher doesn't require you to have a creature (works off of opponent creature death as well) and has to be destroyed separately by PC (generally not as easy as killing a creature), plus it has plenty of synergistic cards to work with it.  Both of those are free, and I think your card should at most be 2|1 in cost.

Offline Rutarete

  • Legendary Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 6505
  • Country: us
  • Reputation Power: 72
  • Rutarete frolics as one of the Phase Dragons, timeless and superior, gargantuan beasts of peerless wisdom.Rutarete frolics as one of the Phase Dragons, timeless and superior, gargantuan beasts of peerless wisdom.Rutarete frolics as one of the Phase Dragons, timeless and superior, gargantuan beasts of peerless wisdom.Rutarete frolics as one of the Phase Dragons, timeless and superior, gargantuan beasts of peerless wisdom.Rutarete frolics as one of the Phase Dragons, timeless and superior, gargantuan beasts of peerless wisdom.Rutarete frolics as one of the Phase Dragons, timeless and superior, gargantuan beasts of peerless wisdom.Rutarete frolics as one of the Phase Dragons, timeless and superior, gargantuan beasts of peerless wisdom.Rutarete frolics as one of the Phase Dragons, timeless and superior, gargantuan beasts of peerless wisdom.Rutarete frolics as one of the Phase Dragons, timeless and superior, gargantuan beasts of peerless wisdom.Rutarete frolics as one of the Phase Dragons, timeless and superior, gargantuan beasts of peerless wisdom.Rutarete frolics as one of the Phase Dragons, timeless and superior, gargantuan beasts of peerless wisdom.Rutarete frolics as one of the Phase Dragons, timeless and superior, gargantuan beasts of peerless wisdom.Rutarete frolics as one of the Phase Dragons, timeless and superior, gargantuan beasts of peerless wisdom.Rutarete frolics as one of the Phase Dragons, timeless and superior, gargantuan beasts of peerless wisdom.
  • Creativity should be nurtured.
  • Awards: Slice of Elements 6th Birthday CakeSlice of Elements 5th Birthday CakeSlice of Elements 4th Birthday CakeRuby Shard of DeckbuildingSlice of Elements 3rd Birthday Cake
Re: Gather | Collect https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26912.msg342185#msg342185
« Reply #5 on: May 28, 2011, 05:46:28 pm »
I think it should be a lobo effect.
It is the greatest mystery of all...
Rutarete: Roo tah reh teh
[22:50] <Jyi> meaning gets lost in translation... even in the same language.
My Decks

AngeDeMort

  • Guest
Re: Gather | Collect https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26912.msg342707#msg342707
« Reply #6 on: May 29, 2011, 05:39:45 pm »
Reworked the costs and added a poll for lobotomize effect

Offline Monox D. I-Fly

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1143
  • Country: id
  • Reputation Power: 2
  • Monox D. I-Fly is a Spark waiting for a buff.
  • Always use Water element in any CCGs
  • Awards: Slice of Elements 11th Birthday CakeSlice of Elements 7th Birthday Cake
Re: Gather | Collect https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26912.msg345695#msg345695
« Reply #7 on: June 04, 2011, 02:13:50 am »
What will happen if "Other" creature a.k.a Malignant Cell is targeted by this card? Quantum Pillar effect?
My idealized elements cycle:
Water -> Fire -> Air -> Earth -> Lightning -> Metal -> Light -> Darkness -> Wood -> Water

AngeDeMort

  • Guest
Re: Gather | Collect https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26912.msg345737#msg345737
« Reply #8 on: June 04, 2011, 05:02:44 am »
What will happen if "Other" creature a.k.a Malignant Cell is targeted by this card? Quantum Pillar effect?
I hadn't though about "other" creatures since there are really none but malignant cell and flown other weapons. I suppose the answer would be yes it would generate a random quanta every turn but only 1 not 3 like quantum pillar

Re: Gather | Collect https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26912.msg345740#msg345740
« Reply #9 on: June 04, 2011, 05:08:34 am »
How would this work on a creature that produces quanta.

So a Gemfinder than produces 1  :earth than given this ability generates  :earth :earth?

Offline tyranim

  • Legendary Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 2877
  • Reputation Power: 34
  • tyranim is a Ghost, obsessed with their Elemental pursuits.tyranim is a Ghost, obsessed with their Elemental pursuits.tyranim is a Ghost, obsessed with their Elemental pursuits.tyranim is a Ghost, obsessed with their Elemental pursuits.tyranim is a Ghost, obsessed with their Elemental pursuits.tyranim is a Ghost, obsessed with their Elemental pursuits.
  • formerly unit
Re: Gather | Collect https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26912.msg345745#msg345745
« Reply #10 on: June 04, 2011, 05:23:31 am »
im a little torn, but i chose no on the lobo thing... unless you.... F***! im torn... you know what? i vote yes, because then it will be a lobo spell and all it does is helps your opponent gain a little bit of quanta. i like it. you have the lobo effect without being limited to certain quantum to use
my milkshake brings all the boys to the yard and they're like "its better than yours" damn right, its better than yours! i can teach you but i'd have to charge!

AngeDeMort

  • Guest
Re: Gather | Collect https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26912.msg345746#msg345746
« Reply #11 on: June 04, 2011, 05:26:49 am »
Yes a Gemfinder targeted by this would then produce  :earth :earth every turn under the current mechanics although the poll is showing that the community prefers it to lobotomize which would make a Gemfinder targeted by this simply produce :earth every turn since it would remove the first :earth generation.

I'm actually having second thoughts about even considering a lobotomize effect since (in my mind at least) I'd be more prone to use this to lobo enemy creatures rather than my own just to gain extra quanta ... I might need an Idea Factory member's ruling on whether a lobo effect would make the primary effect quanta generation or lobotomizing creatures, since quanta generation is the purpose of the contest and should be the primary role.

 

anything
blarg: