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Warthog | Warthog https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26661.msg338855#msg338855
« on: May 23, 2011, 01:06:14 am »
NAME:
Warhog
ELEMENT:
Life
COST:
3 :life
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
3|3
TEXT:
Savagery:
Warthog will destroy a random opponent permanent after an unsuccessful attack
NAME:
Warthog
ELEMENT:
Life
COST:
2 :life
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
3|3
TEXT:
Savagery:
Warthog will destroy a random opponent permanent after an unsuccessful attack
ART:
Hawanja http://freakmutantmonster.blogspot.com/2011/03/ao-ao.html
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NOTES:
changed the concept, as the original could not compete with charger and remain a level of interest. 

the new concept is that of a primal creature with a short temper.  block its attack and it will find something to vent its frustrations on.

does not get triggered when frozen/delayed or antimatter'd.  phase shield, bone wall and hax shield can trigger this card, as well as shields which reduce the effective attack value to 0.  when in combination with adrenaline, only a maximum of two permanents per warthog per turn can be destroyed.

a potentially interesting strategy against an opponents warthog is to use momentum on it, so it will never fail to land a blow.

the alternative upgraded version would be 5 :life and have 2 atk and 6ish hp, this would cause the passive ability to trigger against several more shields.

edit- sundial does not count as an unsuccessful attack, as an attack is not attempted
SERIES:
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Re: Colosal Hog | Massive Hog https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26661.msg338865#msg338865
« Reply #1 on: May 23, 2011, 01:22:53 am »
The unupped seems to be a bit OP. Lower the attack a bit I think.
Charger: 4 attack + 5 hp + momentum = 5
Colossal Hog: 7 attack (+3) + 5 hp + chance for momentum (-1 I think compared to momentum) = 6   (+3 attack -1 momentum -1 cost = +1)
So either higher cost or lower stats I think

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Re: Colosal Hog | Massive Hog https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26661.msg338868#msg338868
« Reply #2 on: May 23, 2011, 01:26:50 am »
gotta factor in the -1 cost life bonus, aye?
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Re: Colosal Hog | Massive Hog https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26661.msg338871#msg338871
« Reply #3 on: May 23, 2011, 01:29:43 am »
maybe the unupped can be 6 :life for 5/5 stats - it's not vulnerable to maxwell then.

As for momentum's +1/+1, i don't think that should be applied here. I think that would be a bit too powerful
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Re: Colosal Hog | Massive Hog https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26661.msg338878#msg338878
« Reply #4 on: May 23, 2011, 01:36:36 am »
issue of it being 5 atk, it would be be less effective than just getting the momentum card on a kfc or frog.
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Re: Colosal Hog | Massive Hog https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26661.msg338883#msg338883
« Reply #5 on: May 23, 2011, 01:42:05 am »
gotta factor in the -1 cost life bonus, aye?
It wasn't green enough for me to notice :) Then I'd say balanced.

If +1 | +1 would be applied, wouldn't it cause quite a problem? Gaining, then losing, then gaining, then losing... It should just gain Momentum and don't bother with the +1 | +1  (unless you wanna make it a growing creature :) )

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Re: Colosal Hog | Massive Hog https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26661.msg338886#msg338886
« Reply #6 on: May 23, 2011, 01:45:00 am »
issue of it being 5 atk, it would be be less effective than just getting the momentum card on a kfc or frog.
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Re: Colosal Hog | Massive Hog https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26661.msg338889#msg338889
« Reply #7 on: May 23, 2011, 01:46:21 am »
no more bothersome than dive making a creature gain 2x atk, i figure this would help balance out the difference between simply using a momentum card at a cost of 1 :gravity once compared to having the skill give the effect for 1 :gravity each turn. 

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Re: Colosal Hog | Massive Hog https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26661.msg338905#msg338905
« Reply #8 on: May 23, 2011, 02:09:41 am »
I'd say that the upped version will be overshadowed by Charger. Charger is one element and doesn't need the :gravity cost.

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Re: Colosal Hog | Massive Hog https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26661.msg339050#msg339050
« Reply #9 on: May 23, 2011, 11:54:10 am »
good point, there has to be a reason to use this card in a duo over just using charger
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Re: Colosal Hog | Massive Hog https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26661.msg339272#msg339272
« Reply #10 on: May 23, 2011, 09:40:34 pm »
maybe have charge be similar to dive for non-airborn creatures (2x damage), but also come with momentum for that turn?
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Re: Colosal Hog | Massive Hog https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26661.msg340522#msg340522
« Reply #11 on: May 25, 2011, 09:55:27 pm »
how about this as a revamped concept?
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