Thunderwolf

[Rutarete]

This deck's main focus is mass cheap generation. It's biggest problem is balance of quatna generation. I often have a lack of 

by Rutarete

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At the moment it works about 50% of the time against AI3, and my goal is for it to run smoothly and do well against T50 decks.
Another problem is that it keeps getting rushed, even by AI3, which is partly due to the absence of PC or CC. I'm not interested in making this anymore rainbow than it is. So if i add PC or CC, what do i take out to make room? I'm also trying to decide between Antimatter and Lightning.
I am missing 2 miracles, but that wouldn't solve much of the problem.

Should i dare add Liquid Shadow?

[ZephyrPhantom]

I would suggest dropping the focus on multiple things at once and breaking it down to a more streamlined deck.

You could try:

Chaos Power Sparks that you can buff with Blessing/CP, add more with PU, and Fractal for a late-game kill. Take out all the Werewolves, Mitosis, and try to balance instead with  / / generation.Werewolves that can constanstly be buffed with CP and copied with Mitosis/TU. Change mark to Darkness, Drop all Light cards and removes all aether cards but PU, and try to balance with / / generation.

[Rutarete]

I already have a deck code for a fractal werewolf.
So you don't see a way this could work without splitting it up?

[ZephyrPhantom]

I already have a deck code for a fractal werewolf.
So you don't see a way this could work without splitting it up?

Not sure, TBH - it's kind of big and the only thing you can really stall with is sancs, which you may not draw sometimes. You could try a quartet version with        /  /  /  generation instead of quantum towers, just an idea.

[Rutarete]

I remembered this thread and decided to post my progress.

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[pikachufan2164]

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Instead, let's try to refine and increase the consistency of the deck by choosing one aspect to focus on. I'll stick to the original concept of Werewolves, Chaos Powers, and Ball Lightnings here, and introduce a few efficient supporting cards to replace the clunkier parts of the deck.

With just those three cards, it looks like the deck will be an duo with requirements of Werewolves fuelled by the mark, which is probably going to be a lot more consistent than the original version.

As I see that you already have a few copies of Thunderbolt, I'll add some more to the deck, as it's a versatile support card that fits into many Aether-based decks. Another interesting addition to the deck is Vampire Dagger, since you're already using a Darkness mark to fuel the Werewolves' abilities.

The quanta balance is going to be a bit tricky, as it's a trio, but with the help of Pendulums and low-cost cards, it definitely can be done. Here, I used Amethyst Towers and Aether Pendulums with a Darkness mark, since you'll want to be producing more quanta while maintaining stable generation rates of quanta for your Werewolves. Aether Pendulums are used here because you don't need too much quanta to use your Thunderbolts, and the extra quanta can be used to support the mark generation and make adding things like Vampire Daggers more viable.

While the main target of your Chaos Powers is going to be the Werewolves so that they are better protected during their fragile first turn, you can still use them on your Ball Lightnings with good effect.

Sample build:

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[Jen-i]

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   I hate doing these things in the forum - its so much easier to do in chat where you can have a conversation - but I'll start with my assumptions on what you are trying to build - it looks to me that by and large you are aiming at a rush deck with buffs and a little stall.
   Fractal is tough - Werewolf is probably the best of the tier 2 creatures for fractal - the best creatures to target with fractal either have no cost (Ball Lightning), produce quanta (Devourer, Minor Phoenix [with immo of course]), or gain power in numbers (Scarabs). Werewolves and Giant Frogs can be gained in huge numbers from Fractal - but the rest of the deck needs to be build to support your quanta needs and it doesn't leave much space for anything else. It doesn't surprise me that your initial build struggled to get quanta.
   You'll notice that a number of people have suggested that you move from 5 elements to 3. Common practice is either rainbow decks or monos & duos - trio's are hard to balance - but can be done sometimes - anything more needs QT and novas or immos to run and really doesn't excell until it starts making use of at least 10 preferably all 12 quanta types.
   I've found the most common way to balance a trio is 6 pendulums of 1 type, 6 pendulums of another and a mark for the third and major quanta needs. I'd suggest if you want to keep the werewolves and Chaos Power, that you run with Twin Universe and Lightning. TU allows you to make the most of the werewolves ability and acts to multiply the benefit of Chaos Power. You may also want to consider some sort of healing to slow down other rush decks - Pikachufan has suggested Vamp Daggers - and while that is viable - Vampires themselves synergize well with the Chaos Power you are already running.
   If you notice I'm not suggesting a deck to you - I dislike the results of suggesting a deck - it ends up with everyone cookie cutter copying the deck. I'd rather provide you with ideas and suggestions - and maybe a principle or two and allow you to build the deck the way you want it.

Lol - it turns out by the rules of trials I am required to suggest a deck to you: so here's something to try out.

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[Rutarete]

Thanks for the input;I'll post a more detailed reply later.

Just letting you know that I'm not ignoring you.

[Rutarete]

Apologies for double posting and also that it took me so long to get back to this.

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Jen-I - I found your advice of great help; I took out the 5 life cards (3 towers and 2 mitosis) and also the purple nymph in order to add some PUs and pillars, which actually help more than I expected.

Pikachufan - What I tried from your advice was vamp dagger. But right now i'm more inclined to stay with the one Electrocutor because the  is needed more for the Lycanthropes.

Thanks for your advice .