Round 7 - Main Topic

[EvaRia]

I would appreciate if we keep all our deck-building and salvaging discussion in THIS topic.
Final decks and salvage/discards will go in their own respective topics, but it's best to keep the discussion in one place.

Chat (Channel=#aether): http://www.chatspike.net/webchat/

Vault/Deck Tracking Spreadsheet (maintained by Pika): https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AuLG6-uKpq33dDBuNnNjUXpUXzZIcWZtTDM0V3hVTFE&hl=en&authkey=CNy7_eUG

Deckbuilding: Duel phase has started

Duels: Round has ended

Standing Vault:


0x Pillar
1x Pendulum
1x Dimensional Shield
9x Phase Dragon
3x Fractal

 
1x Flying Weapon

 
7x Devourer
6x Steal
3x Nightfall
3x Minor Vampire

 
2x Poison
1x Bone Wall
2x Mummy

 

 
3x Nova

 
1x Deflagration
1x Rage Potion
10x Phoenix

 

 

 
4x Miracle
6x Sanctuary
2x Light Pendulum

 

 


Salvageable Cards:

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4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4vd 4vh 4vl 4vl 4vn 593 593 5c1 5li 5og 5og 5ro 5ul 5um 5um 5um 5up 622 6221 Momentum, 1 Plague, 1 Deflag, 3 Nova

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5c1 5c1 5i4 5i4 5i4 5i4 5i4 5i4 5i4 5i5 5i5 5i5 5i7 5ib 5ib 5ie 5ie 5ie 5up 5up 5ur 5ur 5v1 5v1 5v1 5v1 7gp 7gp 7gp5 Nova, 1 Lightning

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58s 58s 593 593 593 593 593 594 594 594 594 5li 5li 5li 5lm 5lm 5lm 5lm 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq2 Stone Skin, 2 Miracle, 2 Light Pendulum

by EvaRia

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52q 52q 52q 52r 52r 52r 52r 52r 542 542 542 542 542 542 542 542 542 542 542 542 58s 58s 593 593 593 593 593 593 594 594 594 594 594 594 8pm

2 Bone Dragon, 4 Death Pendulum
Discard Pile:

by EvaRia

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5ul 5ul 5um 5um 5um 5um 5um 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61t 622 622 622 622 622 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 8pt

5 Dim Shield

by EvaRia

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58q 593 593 593 593 595 595 595 595 595 5aa 5aa 61o 61o 61o 61o 622 622 622 622 622 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 8pm

4 Hematite Golem, 2 Earth Pend

by EvaRia

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4vj 52l 52l 52o 52o 52o 52o 52o 52o 52q 52q 52q 61q 61q 61q 61v 61v 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 71b 71b 71b 8pk

3 Lightning, 1 Reflective Shield, 1 Bone Wall, 1 Arsenic

by EvaRia

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4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 590 590 590 590 590 5f6 5f6 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61q 61q 61r 620 620 620 622 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 8pm

4 Lightning, 1 PU
Conversions:

2x Black Dragon
2x Titanium Shield
3x Sapphire Charger
6x Horned Frog
5x Heal
2x Life Pendulum
1x Reverse Time
1x Sundial
2x Ghost of the Past

Into
6x Aether Pillar
18x Aether Pendulum

Match-Ups:

Higurashi (Gen.) Vs. xn0ize

by EvaRia

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5f6 5f6 5f6 5f6 5fb 5li 5li 5lm 5lm 5lm 5lm 61o 61t 61t 61t 622 622 622 622 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 7ds 7ds 7ds 7ds 808 81q 8po

pikachufan2164 (Lt.) Vs. 3D House of Beef

by EvaRia

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4vh 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 52q 55q 590 5c1 5f6 5f6 5ia 5lg 61o 61o 61o 61o 61q 61q 61q 61q 61q 61r 61r 61r 61t 61t 61t 63a 63a 63a 77g 77g 77g 8pm

YoungSot Vs. Lt. wavedash

by EvaRia

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4vp 4vp 4vp 4vp 4vp 4vp 5oc 5oc 5of 5of 5of 5of 5oo 5oo 5oo 5oo 61o 61o 61o 61r 61r 61r 61r 61r 61t 61t 620 620 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 8pr

UTAlan Vs. Gen. TheonlyrealBeef   

by EvaRia

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4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 52p 52q 52q 52q 52r 52r 5oi 5oi 5rp 5rp 5rp 5rp 5rp 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61q 61q 61q 61q 61q 61r 61r 61r 61t 61t 63a 63a 63a 8pk

willng3 Vs. Bootsza

by EvaRia

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52q 52q 52r 52r 52r 52t 52t 52t 5rk 5rk 5rk 5rk 5rk 61q 61q 61q 61q 61t 622 622 622 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 8pk

deuce22 Vs. Lt. Sevs

by EvaRia

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58q 58q 58q 58q 593 593 593 593 593 593 594 594 5aa 5aa 61o 61o 61o 61o 61v 61v 61v 61v 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 8pm

EvaRia Vs. Svenningen

by EvaRia

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4vh 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 52q 55q 590 590 590 590 590 590 5c1 5og 5og 61q 61q 61q 61q 61q 61q 620 620 620 620 620 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 8pm

EngPhys Vs. Avenger

by EvaRia

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52h 52h 52o 52o 52o 52o 52o 52o 52q 52q 52r 52r 52r 542 542 542 542 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61q 61q 61q 61q 61q 61r 61r 61r 61r 63a 63a 63a 63a 8pk

Event:



Shapeshifting:
Before each duel: Remove up
to 6 cards from your deck.

*The Full complete deck must be posted in the deck topic and in the Match results.
*If your deck was 36 cards, you could play 3 different variations for the match if you wanted.
*If you play a 30 card deck you can't possibly remove any cards.
 


Post your deck requests early, the quicker we get this done, the more prepared we can be!

[deuce22]

I will be in irc pretty much all afternoon, but won't be on in the evening.

[willng3]

This is mainly to give us a better idea of who to use the Event Card against this round (and in which order we want to play our duels), but it's interesting nonetheless:

Current Vault:  273
Duels:  7
Minimum cards fielded:  210
Extra cards remaining (for the Event card mainly):  63
Current Vault:  223
Duels:  6
Minimum cards fielded:  180
Extra cards remaining (for the Event card mainly):  43
Current Vault:  219
Duels:  6
Minimum cards fielded:  180
Extra cards remaining (for the Event card mainly):  39
Current Vault:  208
Duels:  5
Minimum cards fielded:  150
Extra cards remaining (for the Event card mainly):  58
Current Vault:  207
Duels:  5
Minimum cards fielded:  150
Extra cards remaining (for the Event card mainly):  57
Current Vault:  170
Duels:  4
Minimum cards fielded:  120
Extra cards remaining (for the Event card mainly):  50
Current Vault:  164
Duels:  4
Minimum cards fielded:  120
Extra cards remaining (for the Event card mainly):  44
Current Vault:  145
Duels:  4
Minimum cards fielded:  120
Extra cards remaining (for the Event card mainly):  25
The most obvious choices for early matches would be and since they have very low vaults (low to nonexistent element of surprise) and few cards remaining in their current vaults.  Water and Earth also have very few extra cards, but I'm pretty sure they'll use the Event card against us since we're in the lead

Fire and Underworld are possibly going to benefit from this card the most since they have random cards which go in almost any deck they can field.

[YoungSot]

This is interesting:

Let's say a 36-card deck has exactly 50% in-element cards. Is it permitted to remove enough of them as part of the event card's effect so that the remaining 30 or so cards would not be a legal deck?

Yes. The Deck only needs be legal in its full state.

[EngPhys]

Looks like UT pulled the short straw again. This is a pretty interesting event, you know how we always seem to have that one pesky deck we can't counter? Now we can deal with that. To a degree, so can other teams, but I like to think of our deck base as pretty diverse.

[pikachufan2164]

Currently on campus; will start transiting home now -- I'll join the strategic planning session in around 2 hours

[EvaRia]

I'm at school right now, I have the OP half-edited at home already so expect the rest in about 2 hours.

Or, alternatively, pika or higs can put it up if they want.

[EngPhys]

Dropping off the mummytal/bonebolt shapeshift idea for now.
Concept:
-3 mummy -3 fractal is classic bonebolt with endgame mummytal if necessary
-5 poison -1 lightning is a slow mummytal.

by EngPhys

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52o 52o 52o 52o 52o 52q 52q 52r 52r 52r 52r 52t 52t 52t 52t 542 542 61o 61o 61q 61q 61q 61q 61q 61q 622 622 622 622 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 8pk

Subject to quanta balance and all that jazz.

[EvaRia]

Updated, if you didn't catch that.

[pikachufan2164]

I think I've hit something good for

Novagrabby (Base Build)

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4vh 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 52q 52q 55q 590 5c1 5f6 5f6 5ia 5lg 61o 61o 61o 61o 61q 61q 61q 61q 61q 61q 61r 61r 61t 61t 61t 63a 63a 77g 77g 77g 8pm

4 different form shifts, depending on the deck.

by pikachufan2164

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4vh 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 52q 590 5c1 5f6 5f6 61o 61o 61o 61o 61q 61q 61q 61q 61q 61q 61t 61t 61t 63a 63a 77g 77g 77g 8pm

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4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 52q 52q 590 5f6 5f6 61o 61o 61o 61o 61q 61q 61q 61q 61q 61q 61r 61r 61t 61t 61t 63a 63a 77g 77g 77g 8pm

by pikachufan2164

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4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 52q 55q 590 5f6 5f6 5ia 61o 61o 61o 61o 61q 61q 61q 61q 61q 61q 61r 61r 61t 61t 61t 63a 63a 77g 77g 77g 8pm

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4vh 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 52q 52q 55q 590 5c1 5f6 5f6 5lg 61o 61o 61o 61o 61q 61q 61q 61q 61q 61q 61r 61r 63a 63a 77g 77g 77g 8pm

10-0 against Scrambled Shriekers
7-3 against Fried Cat
9-1 against Discord/BH
5-0 against mono-Entropy
4-1 against RT Entropy
6-4 against Pandebonium
7-0 against Pandasanc Stall

[EngPhys]

Theorycrafting against earth:

Earth has only 5 decks left, one of which is mildly enhanced by their salvages. The five decks:
2 RT decks with all the earth cards like pillars dragons grabs EQs and SS.
1 Novagrabbow
1 Immortal
1 Gravity Duo
Apart from EQs, they boast very little PC. I can counter most of their damage sources with dim shield. The momentum stone dragon is a bit of an issue, but I'll get to that later.
Their only CC consists of RTs and BBs.
I want to use a sancstall to outdo them. One issue with this is that RT essentially makes their deck 6 cards larger, but I've noticed that even an RT Sanc hybrid is only effectively 40 cards. I can make a working stall (I think) and discard down to 7+their first game deck size. I would err on the side of a fatter deck which may be troublesome, so I'll need a lot of testing.
Novagrabby: The only deck that uses PC against my dims is the novagrabby and by convention that deck should be pretty small. The sancs should cover most damage until I can lightning their creatures. They should only pack 2 deflags in a nova deck.
RT: No PC means my dims keep me safe. A healthy amount of pends should keep the healing flowing.
Immortal: My deck just needs to be bigger.
Gravity duo: Lightnings beat chargers, sancs should be able to heal at the same rate as momentum stone dragon.

Bed time. Testing tomorrow. Thoughts are welcomed.

EDIT: I must've been tired, earthquakes are going to make the pends miserable. BAH also didn't see the pulverizers in the gravity duo. Duh.

Alright. Earth has five matches this round:

I'm trying to figure out what they'll send where. RT Grabbies worked against water last round, so it's reasonable to think they'd send that again. The other RT Grabby deck should go to fire, grabbies will hack away at bonewall and RT will help stall against phoenixes and golems.

That leaves an immortal, gravy duo, and novagrabby for us entropy and life.
Life has a poison deck, a firebolt deck, and an EQ novagrabby. Earth won't send the immortal here.
The gravity deck is best suited to the teams that have lots of permanents and shields. Entropy and Life don't have many shields left in their decks. Entropy has a couple fog shields but those are just splashed inside novagrabbies. I really think they will be sending the gravity duo my way. Now to find a suitable deck against it that doesn't completely die to their other choices.

[deuce22]

Looking at UW's matchups, their other 3 matches are against the bottom 3 teams (each a general). So, I have a feeling they are going to bring their best deck against me, which is their immonova bow. Seeing as how this is one of our lower priority matches, I probably won't be able to bring a deck that is effective against all of their decks. In my preliminary testing, RT GotPU seems to be very effective against their immonova deck and quinted growthbow, but completely fails against their quinted CC stall. The only thing I can think of that might be able to beat all their decks is arsendial, but the event card +6 could make it more difficult than usual, and I have a feeling we will need the lightnings and novas elsewhere.

Regardless, it would be nice if we could finalize some of our decks tonight. So that we are not scrambling tomorrow night.

Also, imo, frogtal is completely useless. I recommend converting the life pends, frogs, and heals.