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Fire Guard | Flame Guard https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26251.msg333575#msg333575
« on: May 14, 2011, 06:59:14 pm »
NAME:
Fire Guard
ELEMENT:
Fire
COST:
4 :fire
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
3|3
TEXT:
Frenzied:
Successful attacks have a 50% chance to be a critical blow, dealing 2x damage
NAME:
Flame Guard
ELEMENT:
Fire
COST:
4 :fire
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
5|5
TEXT:
Frenzied:
Successful attacks have a 50% chance to be a critical blow, dealing 2x damage
ART:
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NOTES:
made for the passive skills competition

in relation to adrenaline- only the first attack has a chance to be critical
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Re: Fire Guard | Flame Guard https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26251.msg333594#msg333594
« Reply #1 on: May 14, 2011, 07:12:23 pm »
How does the name correspond with the ability?

Kinda fun, but just a weaker :fire adrenaline.

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Re: Fire Guard | Flame Guard https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26251.msg333602#msg333602
« Reply #2 on: May 14, 2011, 07:17:13 pm »
i didnt think it was much of a stretch that a warrior devoted to fire would be frenzied.

and its not strictly a :fire ability, as a passive it could be attributed to other creatures in the future.  i am debating between the effect being double damage or a second attack.

(Frenzied:
Successful attacks have a 50% chance to be a critical blow, dealing 2x damage)
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Re: Fire Guard | Flame Guard https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26251.msg333622#msg333622
« Reply #3 on: May 14, 2011, 07:28:12 pm »
i didnt think it was much of a stretch that a warrior devoted to fire would be frenzied.

and its not strictly a :fire ability, as a passive it could be attributed to other creatures in the future.  i am debating between the effect being double damage or a second attack.

(Frenzied:
Successful attacks have a 50% chance to be a critical blow, dealing 2x damage)
A: I mean between the name and the ability
B: go with crit.

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Re: Fire Guard | Flame Guard https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26251.msg333624#msg333624
« Reply #4 on: May 14, 2011, 07:30:26 pm »
not all guards are defensive, and like i said, its not a stretch to associate fire with offense.  guards may be defending something, but it doesnt mean they have to just have a big shield and focus on blocking blow after blow.  saurus temple guards in warhammer for example carried halberds and the only armor they wore was a dinosaur-ish skull on their head.
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Re: Fire Guard | Flame Guard https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26251.msg333722#msg333722
« Reply #5 on: May 14, 2011, 09:43:38 pm »
I like it, but i feel the cost should be 1 higher for the upped. Not sure why, just my initial intuition
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Re: Fire Guard | Flame Guard https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26251.msg333731#msg333731
« Reply #6 on: May 14, 2011, 09:55:54 pm »
Meh, a fancy way of giving it 4.5|7.5 damage.  I don't think it's useful enough honestly.

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Re: Fire Guard | Flame Guard https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26251.msg333750#msg333750
« Reply #7 on: May 14, 2011, 10:26:37 pm »
Multiple attack/innate adren is something I find interesting, since it provides good sync with the actual Adrenaline. Upgraded might need +1 cost, but I doubt it considering that OT's cost theory can now get -1 to final value due the Damselfly buff.

not all guards are defensive, and like i said, its not a stretch to associate fire with offense.  guards may be defending something, but it doesnt mean they have to just have a big shield and focus on blocking blow after blow.  saurus temple guards in warhammer for example carried halberds and the only armor they wore was a dinosaur-ish skull on their head.
Why not "Flame Beserker"? It fits more with the skill.

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Re: Fire Guard | Flame Guard https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26251.msg333755#msg333755
« Reply #8 on: May 14, 2011, 10:30:01 pm »
If I understand this card correctly, it's slapping Wyrm in the face in terms of power.
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Re: Fire Guard | Flame Guard https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26251.msg333794#msg333794
« Reply #9 on: May 14, 2011, 11:12:01 pm »
If I understand this card correctly, it's slapping Wyrm in the face in terms of power.
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Re: Fire Guard | Flame Guard https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26251.msg333795#msg333795
« Reply #10 on: May 14, 2011, 11:13:24 pm »
For 0 quanta upkeep.
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Re: Fire Guard | Flame Guard https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26251.msg333796#msg333796
« Reply #11 on: May 14, 2011, 11:15:20 pm »
If I understand this card correctly, it's slapping Wyrm in the face in terms of power.
I still think Wyrm needs a buff (especially considering Damsefly), but this isn't the place to discuss that.

In response to this current situation, you could make the ability an active on and have it cost :fire .

 

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