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Round 1 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23990.msg306467#msg306467
« on: April 06, 2011, 04:43:06 am »
ok here are all the decks according to he utility and listed in order of how we are listed in the team rooster if there are any mistakes please tell me and i shall change them otherwise as far is i know this is what everyone is running good luck guys lets start this first round strong 
spikepspiegel
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Devilloss
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ok here are the decks accoding to the dec utility i changed mine to the discussed nova gotp deck that jen-i and snoweb both agree would be better and i also like it so im running that and if anything is wrong please tell me
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Re: Round 1 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23990.msg306474#msg306474
« Reply #1 on: April 06, 2011, 04:49:57 am »
ok guys heres your matchups post what deck you think would be good agiasnt that element in this thread all talk with spike jen and azumi about who gets what and what we have in the vault to be used
drogna VS Zblader  :light
crimsonflippa VS evaria  :aether
spikepiegel VS wizelnarf  :life
snoweb VS truddy02  :air
Azumi VS TStar  :gravity
Jen-i VS Legit  :fire
Devilloss VS Kamietsu  :earth
Gl1tch VS Malignant  :darkness

im going agiasnt earth i pretty sure there gonna go garbiod rush
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Re: Round 1 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23990.msg306612#msg306612
« Reply #2 on: April 06, 2011, 11:30:40 am »
Don't try and predict round 1 decks, it's impossible.

I would very much like to play dune scorpions, blessings, and sanctuaries versus darkness.
Blessed Scorpions v.  :darkness
I'd pack devourer+GOTP versus fire.
Devourer GOTP v.  :fire
Almost all of gravities decks can be countered by reverse time, I'd pack that there.
Reverse time v.  :gravity
A solid counter to life would be a phase shield stall with lightning bolt control.
Aether stall v.  :life
Versus earth, let's try discord + GOTP.  Earth doesn't have a whole lot of ways of countering that.
Discord v.  :earth
Momentum + Dune Scorp would be fun versus aether.  Aether doesn't typically have large amounts of damage (save fractal), so if we have armaggio, they either stall while they poison to death, or rush and get poisoned to death.
Gravity/Time (momentum scorps) v.  :aether
Versus light, I'm thinkin' an earthquake+Grabby deck would be best.  Stops their quanta, and sends protected damage.  Throw in eternity, but beware crusaders.
Graboids v.  :light
Versus air, crusading eternities, counter flying weapon?  I dunno.  The last call is the hardest.
Crusading Eternities v.  :air

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Re: Round 1 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23990.msg306653#msg306653
« Reply #3 on: April 06, 2011, 12:44:57 pm »
1:time droganavs:light ZbladerEQ-Graboid is the best choice, IMO here
11:time crimsonflippavs:aether EvaRiaHere, I agree with Gl1tch, I would play a Gravity duo with armagio, dune and momentum.
17:life wizelsnarfvs:time SpikeSpiegelHere we could try our Fractal scarab. Surprise surprise! The aether duo suggested by Gl1tch sounds good too.
23:air truddy02vs:time SnoWebSame as above. I could take the fractal scarab here.
26:time Azumivs:gravity TStarI agree with Gl1tch here RT is important. I still wonder what strategy to use... Maybe a nightmare combo?
31:fire Legitvs:time Jen-iYou need to pack a lot of rewind IMO. It is very efficient against immolation decks. The dune/CP discord might do it. The dunes are prety CC proof.
35:time Devillossvs:earth KamietsuGotP is quite sensitive to denial. I would go for something cheaper.
37:time Gl1tchvs:darkness MalignantDuo time/light - why not ...

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Re: Round 1 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23990.msg306686#msg306686
« Reply #4 on: April 06, 2011, 01:31:47 pm »
Would could try crusading eternities versus gravity.

Moar sanctuary protects us against discord/black hole.

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Re: Round 1 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23990.msg306708#msg306708
« Reply #5 on: April 06, 2011, 02:18:21 pm »
Here is the Time Deck Utility (https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Auo1gMP5ebg0dFZBQXl2OWt4M0QwWGt4VUF3LWZaNGc&hl=en&authkey=CJbr5q0K).
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In there I put the following decks:
1:time droganavs:light ZbladerEQ-Graboid :time :earth
11:time crimsonflippavs:aether EvaRiaDune-Momentum :time :gravity
17:life wizelsnarfvs:time SpikeSpiegelGotP-Lightning :time :aether
23:air truddy02vs:time SnoWebNova-Fractal-Scarab  :time :rainbow
26:time Azumivs:gravity TStarEternity-Crusader :time :light
31:fire Legitvs:time Jen-iDune-CP :time :entropy
35:time Devillossvs:earth KamietsuGotP-Mono :time :time
37:time Gl1tchvs:darkness MalignantDune-Blessing :time :light
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Re: Round 1 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23990.msg306731#msg306731
« Reply #6 on: April 06, 2011, 03:02:12 pm »
droganavs :light Zblader :earth :time Graboid (EQ)
crimsonflippavs :aether EvaRia :time :gravity Dune Scorp (Gravity)
SpikeSpeigelvs:life wizlenarf :time :aether GotP-Lightning
SnoWebvs :air Truddy :time :aether Fractal Scarabs
Azumivs :gravity TStar :time :light Eternity Stall
Jen-ivs :fire Legit :time :darkness GotP Stall
DevilLossvs :earth Kamietsu :time :rainbow Novabow (Discord/GotP)
Gl1tchvs :darkness Malignant :time :light Dune Scorp (Light)
For some reason I can't edit the Utility yet - so I'll just wait on that.

As to my deck choices - I mostly agree with what's been said. I'll explain my differences
GotP Stall vs  :fire - This deck packs enough RT to deal with immo-rush and enough steal to deal with FireStall - I'd probably augment it with 2 more creatures to get it past the CC from Firestall

Novabow (Discord/GotP) vs  :earth - Nova counters EQ & Discord hurts Earth - it needs to be fast to counter Graboid Rush and this deck does that

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Re: Round 1 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23990.msg306741#msg306741
« Reply #7 on: April 06, 2011, 03:18:19 pm »
For some reason I can't edit the Utility yet - so I'll just wait on that.
It should work right now for every one. However, it is unprotected so please be careful when you do modifications. Only modify the columns with the player names on the top. When you do modify the sheet please go in chat first. This way you'll avoid to do modification at the same time as someone else ...
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GotP Stall vs  :fire - This deck packs enough RT to deal with immo-rush and enough steal to deal with FireStall - I'd probably augment it with 2 more creatures to get it past the CC from Firestall
What about a Nightmare version? Generally Fire hands empty quite fast so it's a good target for nighmares. The upped nightmares (3 available for you) being cheaper it could even be very scary.

Novabow (Discord/GotP) vs  :earth - Nova counters EQ & Discord hurts Earth - it needs to be fast to counter Graboid Rush and this deck does that
Why not - sounds good too.

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Re: Round 1 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23990.msg306820#msg306820
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For future reference, I do not have any eternities yet.  If you want me to use them, you'll have to give me a heads up.

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Re: Round 1 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23990.msg306845#msg306845
« Reply #9 on: April 06, 2011, 06:28:40 pm »
@ SnoWeb - this is what I mean by GotP Stall - we are on the same page
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@Gl1tch - that's no problem the Dune Scorp Light deck runs as well with Reverse Time as it does with Eternity - just might mean we add a couple extra copies in there for you.
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Re: Round 1 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23990.msg306862#msg306862
« Reply #10 on: April 06, 2011, 07:11:24 pm »
so im fine using my verison of mono time with the precogs reversetime and either pharohs or dragons (prolly dragons for the damage) agiasnt earth only concern is eq but if i add 7 pillars 7 pends it should work my other question is can somone show me what the nova gotp would look like with discord if i do run discord gotp i would need a couple pendleums and maybe add a a couple more entropy cards otherwise i think a straight up time rush would work with reverse time (also what are the chances of a earth stall?)

also agiasnt gravity sounds good reverse time will really shoot them down as long as they done run discord blackholes idk what the chances of that is usally they run that agiasnt genrals or luitenets.
agiasnt life ya i would defnite go aether stall or fractal scarabs. (can u here the ANOMNOMNOM?)

agiasnt immo ya i would go with gotp nightmare 

aether defintly momentumed dunescorps with armigo's mmmmm someone should run a
garbiod rush im not sure who but someone should i think that be a solid deck

p.s. as soon as i get deck codes all post them in my first post and then once we get whos using what all post that so we dont get penalties if you have any changes to some of these decks please post on this thread thanks. GIVE ME DECK CODES nomnomnom
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Re: Round 1 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23990.msg306942#msg306942
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Funny you should bring up GotP versus fire, that's one of the things I talked to Spike about, back before I was known to be on team time.

GotP is time's best anti-fire, with anubis as a second place.

However, I'm more worried about light stalling hard than fire.  Ryan left (I guessed he would, so I moved them up), meaning they have a more experienced general now (coinich > Ryan, IMO).  Plus, they have hrm, they'll be bringing strong decks.  I suspect a lot of stall power from them, a whole lot of sir-lance-a-lot decks, with tons of healing.  That's why I think GotP would be better against them.  It forces them to take damage or discard the miracle they're saving for, and stops them from drawing.  Plus, if we steal away all their sanctuary, we get heals, not them, and we sap quanta.

Quick question:  When is deck-testing planned for?  I dun' wanna miss it, but I'll be gone from roughly an-hour-from-now until Saturday evening (me-time), and even then I'll be doing catchup.

 

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