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Touch of Midas | Touch of Midas https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21604.msg276653#msg276653
« on: February 22, 2011, 11:47:32 pm »
NAME:
Touch of Midas
ELEMENT:
Time
COST:
2 :time
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
Turn target permanent into a Golden Relic.
NAME:
Touch of Midas
ELEMENT:
Time
COST:
1 :time
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
Turn target permanent into a Golden Relic.
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Submission for the Mythology Card Design Competition (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,21598.0.html). This entry ranked 2nd in the competition.

Mythological reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midas

Dionysus granted King Midas the ability to turn whatever he touched into gold. What will you do with a vial of his power?


This is an interesting form of permanent control for Time. Although its costs to the player are comparable with Deflagration and Explosion, it gives the permanent's owner a double-edged gift: card draw. Players will have to make a tough decision: is the permanent you're denying worth the risk of giving your opponent an extra card?

Note that it is possible to use this on your own permanents too -- this will be a fun way to "recycle" expired Sundials, Phase Shields, and Cloaks (since they are destroyed after ending the turn) or to sacrifice Pillars/Pendulums in the mid-late game for a strategic advantage.

The upgraded version of Touch of Midas generates an upgraded Golden Relic.
SERIES:
NAME:
Golden Relic
ELEMENT:
Time
COST:
0
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
2: Vend (Sacrifice card)
Draw a card from your deck.
NAME:
Golden Relic
ELEMENT:
Time
COST:
0
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
3: Vend (Sacrifice card)
Draw a card from your deck.
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This is a standalone card created by Touch of Midas | Touch of Midas. Not to be confused with the useless Relic | Relic.

Upgraded version costs more to vend because it's designed to be used by the opponent, though costs for Touch of Midas + Vend are the same upped/unupped if the caster uses it.
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Re: Touch of Midas | Touch of Midas https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21604.msg276730#msg276730
« Reply #1 on: February 23, 2011, 01:25:23 am »
this will be a tough Competition.
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Re: Touch of Midas | Touch of Midas https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21604.msg276798#msg276798
« Reply #2 on: February 23, 2011, 03:00:24 am »
For the Golden Relic, what does the "Sacrifice a card" mean? Like, destroying the card on top of your deck, then draw the next one?

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Re: Touch of Midas | Touch of Midas https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21604.msg276800#msg276800
« Reply #3 on: February 23, 2011, 03:02:55 am »
For the Golden Relic, what does the "Sacrifice a card" mean? Like, destroying the card on top of your deck, then draw the next one?
It's worded in the same way as Unstable Gas and its Ignite ability, so it works the same way.

Pay 2 random quanta (or 3, if upped version) and sacrifice the Golden Relic in order to draw a card.
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Re: Touch of Midas | Touch of Midas https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21604.msg277107#msg277107
« Reply #4 on: February 23, 2011, 04:38:35 pm »
This will have my vote. AWESOME idea for Time PC card.
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Re: Touch of Midas | Touch of Midas https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21604.msg277110#msg277110
« Reply #5 on: February 23, 2011, 04:44:55 pm »
Why can't Touch of Midas be used on creatures?
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Re: Touch of Midas | Touch of Midas https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21604.msg277115#msg277115
« Reply #6 on: February 23, 2011, 04:55:25 pm »
Why can't Touch of Midas be used on creatures?
I think the logical answer is "because this is a PC card for Time and making it CC too would either make this OP or have a too high cost", but I may be mistaken. ;)
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Re: Touch of Midas | Touch of Midas https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21604.msg277123#msg277123
« Reply #7 on: February 23, 2011, 05:02:41 pm »
Why can't Touch of Midas be used on creatures?
I think the logical answer is "because this is a PC card for Time and making it CC too would either make this OP or have a too high cost", but I may be mistaken. ;)
Correct :)

Also, there would be the weird problem of putting a permanent in a creature slot >_<"

(Time already has some soft CC in Reverse Time, and Touch of Midas is a way of giving Time soft PC)
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Re: Touch of Midas | Touch of Midas https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21604.msg277133#msg277133
« Reply #8 on: February 23, 2011, 05:16:28 pm »
I mainly meant thematically speaking, why couldn't Midas touch your creatures? xD
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Re: Touch of Midas | Touch of Midas https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21604.msg277150#msg277150
« Reply #9 on: February 23, 2011, 05:44:04 pm »
I mainly meant thematically speaking, why couldn't Midas touch your creatures? xD
Because recreating the Touch of Midas requires a quite difficult ritual, involving gold and many alchemical practices, which can't be done with, say, a Dragon trying to bite off your head. You're not Midas. ;)
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Re: Touch of Midas | Touch of Midas https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21604.msg277228#msg277228
« Reply #10 on: February 23, 2011, 08:09:10 pm »
Why don't you add a double effect?
Something like:
"Turn target permanent into a Golden Relic, or turn target creature into a Golden Statue".
This way there is no problem of a creature going into permanent slot.
Also, you need to create a Golden Statue card, something with 0 attack and big HP. And maybe the "vend" ability or something else.
Only thing i don't understand: making something eternal sounds like aether to me, so why you choose time?

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Re: Touch of Midas | Touch of Midas https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21604.msg277319#msg277319
« Reply #11 on: February 23, 2011, 11:01:35 pm »
Why don't you add a double effect?
Something like:
"Turn target permanent into a Golden Relic, or turn target creature into a Golden Statue".
This way there is no problem of a creature going into permanent slot.
Also, you need to create a Golden Statue card, something with 0 attack and big HP. And maybe the "vend" ability or something else.
Only thing i don't understand: making something eternal sounds like aether to me, so why you choose time?
Ah, that's one of the problems of letting it affect creatures.

If it could turn creatures into Golden Statues (in some versions of the myth, King Midas did in fact turn his daughter into a statue), then it would take away from the power of Basilisk Blood. It would also be harder to balance, since it would then be a means of both permanent and creature control.

As for its elemental placement, Aether is not about the eternal -- rather, it's about the unyielding (hence the immaterial creatures it has). Time, however, is concerned with controlling the flow of time and becoming eternal. Plus, the Vend ability gives card draw to the owner of the Golden Relic, and drawing extra cards from the deck is an ability that's exclusive to Time.
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