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A small study on HP of creatures https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20857.msg265617#msg265617
« on: February 06, 2011, 06:33:52 pm »
When looking into creating cards which were effected by the HP of a creature I made these tables to help me, which may be of use to others as well.

These tables do not include rare creatures or flying weapons.
For creatures with 'growth' abilities the original HP is taken. There are 9 unupped and 10 upped creatures which can 'grow'.


HP value0hp1hp2hp3hp4hp5hp6hp7hp8hp10hp15hp16hp25hpNhp
approx % of creatures1.5%23.5%19%17.5%4.5%12%10%1.5%1.5%3%1.5%1.5%1.5%1.5%



HP value0hp1hp2hp3hp4hp5hp6hp7hp8hp9hp12hp15hp20hp30hpNhp
approx % of creatures1.5%13%13%20.5%12%13%7.5%4.5%1.5%3%3%1.5%1.5%3%1.5%

P.S. if people like this/find it useful, I'll do the same for attack.

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Re: A small study on HP of creatures https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20857.msg265625#msg265625
« Reply #1 on: February 06, 2011, 06:36:53 pm »
Oh this is pretty cool.

You can sort of see the HP shift from 1-2 to 3-4.

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Re: A small study on HP of creatures https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20857.msg265632#msg265632
« Reply #2 on: February 06, 2011, 06:39:53 pm »
> . > Label your axes, please.
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Re: A small study on HP of creatures https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20857.msg265636#msg265636
« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2011, 06:41:03 pm »
> . > Label your axes, please.
I'm guessing X is the HP and Y is the number of creatures.

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Re: A small study on HP of creatures https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20857.msg265654#msg265654
« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2011, 06:51:57 pm »
> . > Label your axes, please.
I'm guessing X is the HP and Y is the number of creatures.
Yes. As is most common with tables, the items are on the X-axis and the amounts the Y-axis. These tables wouldn't even make sense looked at any other way...?

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Re: A small study on HP of creatures https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20857.msg265656#msg265656
« Reply #5 on: February 06, 2011, 06:54:11 pm »
> . > Label your axes, please.
I'm guessing X is the HP and Y is the number of creatures.
Yes. As is most common with tables, the items are on the X-axis and the amounts the Y-axis. These tables wouldn't even make sense looked at any other way...?
It would be convenient if they were labeled though d:

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Re: A small study on HP of creatures https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20857.msg265660#msg265660
« Reply #6 on: February 06, 2011, 06:55:28 pm »
No title or labeled axis. It's completely unprofessional. You, my good sir, get a D-.
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Re: A small study on HP of creatures https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20857.msg265760#msg265760
« Reply #7 on: February 06, 2011, 08:12:04 pm »
> . > Label your axes, please.

better?  :P

In all seriousness though, I think it's comprehensible enough as it is....I didn't save these charts anywhere, so being lazy and not doing them again now, maybe later/some other time

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Re: A small study on HP of creatures https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20857.msg265762#msg265762
« Reply #8 on: February 06, 2011, 08:14:11 pm »
Did you list Oty as a growing card?
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Re: A small study on HP of creatures https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20857.msg265772#msg265772
« Reply #9 on: February 06, 2011, 08:21:41 pm »
Did you list Oty as a growing card?
yeah, but is under 3 and 5 in the charts. Always used original HP, just thought I'd mention how many creatures can 'grow' without influence of other cards (which reminds me, didn't include fallen elf/druid as one which can 'grow' :s)

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Re: A small study on HP of creatures https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20857.msg265779#msg265779
« Reply #10 on: February 06, 2011, 08:24:09 pm »
Did you also count scavenger as a growing card?


Also, if this is for the purpose of balancing, than all creatures should be included. Rarity should not make a card exempt from parts of the balancing process.
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Re: A small study on HP of creatures https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20857.msg265790#msg265790
« Reply #11 on: February 06, 2011, 08:27:59 pm »
Did you also count scavenger as a growing card?


Also, if this is for the purpose of balancing, than all creatures should be included. Rarity should not make a card exempt from parts of the balancing process.
I did include scavenger as one.

Perhaps, but given as they're rare and hardly show up, they shouldn't be taken into 'full' consideration....it is a small study into creature HP, I'm sure one could make a very comprehensible one if wanted. I just needed a rough average for my Thicket cards and thought why not share my findings...people are obv welcome to do better ones!

 

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