Elements the Game Forum - Free Online Fantasy Card Game
Elements the Game => Card Ideas and Art => Design Theory => Topic started by: rohlfo on February 06, 2011, 06:33:52 pm
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When looking into creating cards which were effected by the HP of a creature I made these tables to help me, which may be of use to others as well.
These tables do not include rare creatures or flying weapons.
For creatures with 'growth' abilities the original HP is taken. There are 9 unupped and 10 upped creatures which can 'grow'.
(http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z295/rohlfo/UnuppedCreatures.png)
| HP value | 0hp | 1hp | 2hp | 3hp | 4hp | 5hp | 6hp | 7hp | 8hp | 10hp | 15hp | 16hp | 25hp | Nhp |
| approx % of creatures | 1.5% | 23.5% | 19% | 17.5% | 4.5% | 12% | 10% | 1.5% | 1.5% | 3% | 1.5% | 1.5% | 1.5% | 1.5% |
(http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z295/rohlfo/UppedCreatures.png)
| HP value | 0hp | 1hp | 2hp | 3hp | 4hp | 5hp | 6hp | 7hp | 8hp | 9hp | 12hp | 15hp | 20hp | 30hp | Nhp |
| approx % of creatures | 1.5% | 13% | 13% | 20.5% | 12% | 13% | 7.5% | 4.5% | 1.5% | 3% | 3% | 1.5% | 1.5% | 3% | 1.5% |
P.S. if people like this/find it useful, I'll do the same for attack.
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Oh this is pretty cool.
You can sort of see the HP shift from 1-2 to 3-4.
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> . > Label your axes, please.
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> . > Label your axes, please.
I'm guessing X is the HP and Y is the number of creatures.
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> . > Label your axes, please.
I'm guessing X is the HP and Y is the number of creatures.
Yes. As is most common with tables, the items are on the X-axis and the amounts the Y-axis. These tables wouldn't even make sense looked at any other way...?
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> . > Label your axes, please.
I'm guessing X is the HP and Y is the number of creatures.
Yes. As is most common with tables, the items are on the X-axis and the amounts the Y-axis. These tables wouldn't even make sense looked at any other way...?
It would be convenient if they were labeled though d:
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No title or labeled axis. It's completely unprofessional. You, my good sir, get a D-.
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> . > Label your axes, please.
(http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z295/rohlfo/axe.png)
better? :P
In all seriousness though, I think it's comprehensible enough as it is....I didn't save these charts anywhere, so being lazy and not doing them again now, maybe later/some other time
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Did you list Oty as a growing card?
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Did you list Oty as a growing card?
yeah, but is under 3 and 5 in the charts. Always used original HP, just thought I'd mention how many creatures can 'grow' without influence of other cards (which reminds me, didn't include fallen elf/druid as one which can 'grow' :s)
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Did you also count scavenger as a growing card?
Also, if this is for the purpose of balancing, than all creatures should be included. Rarity should not make a card exempt from parts of the balancing process.
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Did you also count scavenger as a growing card?
Also, if this is for the purpose of balancing, than all creatures should be included. Rarity should not make a card exempt from parts of the balancing process.
I did include scavenger as one.
Perhaps, but given as they're rare and hardly show up, they shouldn't be taken into 'full' consideration....it is a small study into creature HP, I'm sure one could make a very comprehensible one if wanted. I just needed a rough average for my Thicket cards and thought why not share my findings...people are obv welcome to do better ones!
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ok, for info, the 9 unupped cards I thought had HP 'growth' are:
Lycanthrope, Vulture, Otyugh, Forest Spirit, Lava Golem, Crusader, Scarab, Fate Egg, Gargoyle.
For upped I had 10, because when the elite Graboid evolves, it gains +1 HP.
Arguably, Fallen Elf/Druid should be included here also.
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Thank you Rohlfo.
Could you add What % of creatures have each hp. This would be invaluable for the Devour skill.
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Thank you Rohlfo.
Could you add What % of creatures have each hp. This would be invaluable for the Devour skill.
I can try, I'll admit right now (as people have already seen) I'm not the best at excel etc. but will give it a bash.
If I haven't managed this by Wednesday, I probably won't until mid March because I'll be away/incredibly busy for awhile. (just giving you the heads up).
Actually, the values are easy, so I could add a html table thingy just underneath each picture. Then anyone who's an excel wizard can combine it all into fancy graphs if they fancy.
Do people think there would be interest in seeing the same for attack?
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Thank you once again. An attack graph would be nice too. (with percentages as well please.)
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