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Cloud Giant | Storm Giant https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18940.msg241568#msg241568
« on: January 06, 2011, 11:37:09 am »
NAME:
Cloud Giant
ELEMENT:
Air
COST:
11 :air
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
8 | 8
TEXT:
:air :air: Growth. Cloud Giant gains +2/+2.
NAME:
Storm Giant
ELEMENT:
Air
COST:
12 :air
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
10 | 10
TEXT:
:air :air: Growth. Storm Giant gains +2/+2.
ART:
Dayyan
IDEA:
Dayyan
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Hello!!
This is my idea. Do you like it? I've only a problem on loading card image on card creator, cause, how you can see, the picture takes some graphics glitches in the operation while it should be almost perfect. Anyway, that's it.
I tought it should be something like a Rare Card.


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Re: Uranos | Uranos the Unmerciful https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18940.msg241577#msg241577
« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2011, 12:00:08 pm »
^^^
why do you wanna use skybitz to make this card destroyed?

for me.  it's very OP.   only way to defeat it is destroy all air quanta.    don't even think that it atk be very high.

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Re: Uranos | Uranos the Unmerciful https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18940.msg241589#msg241589
« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2011, 12:34:00 pm »
6x this +
6x damselfly +
6x precognition +
12x air tower

Mark of Time

Can reliably get 1 of these out on the second turn.

It's an immortal creature with about 10/15 attack and hp that grows by 5 at least each turn. This is like a MUCH better Quinted Lava Destroyer, and requires less quanta and less cards. It's terribly OP.

A good idea would be to change this into an immaterial creature with n hp (still air quanta), but giving it a fixed amount of attack. That way, you can get an immaterial attacker that has the drawback of depending on your quanta. I would give it a cost equal to its attack although it IS immaterial (maybe one more). If you do, though, :aether is more appropriate as an element for it (immaterial creatures are :aether) - but Aether already has Immortals...

Also, on a flavor note, none of the cards have names like this. You should change it to match the current flavor of the game - this is much more Yu-Gi-Ohish.
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Re: Uranos | Uranos the Unmerciful https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18940.msg241638#msg241638
« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2011, 02:42:59 pm »
ahhaha yu-gi-ohish.  :) Surely it's a very strong card, and that's the reason cause it should be Rare. It should not be possibile to have 5 o 6 cards of Uranos in the hand. But anyway, i don't think it would be so terrible overpowerd. His power is in number of rounds played, so, fighting as quickly as you can it's a simple solution. And don't forget the shields (Gravity Shields on all).
Thanks for you replies!  :D

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Re: Uranos | Uranos the Unmerciful https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18940.msg241642#msg241642
« Reply #4 on: January 06, 2011, 03:01:17 pm »
Rarity should not be a factor in how op or up a card is, it should be balanced even if it is rare, that is one of the top 3 rules of card making,

EDIT: but i still think it is way op, make it like 5|6 or something along thos lines but with a halfway decent ability

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Re: Uranos | Uranos the Unmerciful https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18940.msg241643#msg241643
« Reply #5 on: January 06, 2011, 03:03:44 pm »
perhaps 'n' could be your total air quanta divided by 3? 

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Re: Uranos | Uranos the Unmerciful https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18940.msg241645#msg241645
« Reply #6 on: January 06, 2011, 03:09:03 pm »
Graphic Glithces patched... 8)
Mmmm, you say something like n/3 | n/3 ?

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Re: Uranos | Uranos the Unmerciful https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18940.msg241650#msg241650
« Reply #7 on: January 06, 2011, 03:19:37 pm »
Mmmm, you say something like n/3 | n/3 ?
perhaps, because since it is immaterial it is a little bit uber! wouldn't take long in a good upped deck to be 15/15 in just a few rounds I think! and not even fireshield or thorn carapace can really damage it, which is the only way to beat immaterials (I think). If it was less strong, by either putting a limit to 'n' or by dividing that number, like you say n/3, it would help make it fit into game better (although still too strong perhaps).
Just my opinion though  :)

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Re: Uranos | Uranos the Unmerciful https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18940.msg241662#msg241662
« Reply #8 on: January 06, 2011, 03:49:38 pm »
Ok...than there are two solutions to correct OP

1)reducing the N of Air Quanta (something like n/3, n/3)

or

2)introducing an ATK/HP standard value with a Growth skill ( :air :air gains +2|+2 for example)

3) deleting all  :D

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Re: Uranos | Uranos the Unmerciful https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18940.msg241665#msg241665
« Reply #9 on: January 06, 2011, 03:55:02 pm »
not sure, maybe there are other ways, or other new ideas to deal with OP!

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Re: Uranos | Uranos the Unmerciful https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18940.msg241666#msg241666
« Reply #10 on: January 06, 2011, 03:56:38 pm »
go with option 3 :) however, you could make a counter card gaia (i think thats how you say mother earth) and make them have one uber effect when both on the field

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Re: Uranos | Uranos the Unmerciful https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18940.msg241715#msg241715
« Reply #11 on: January 06, 2011, 05:11:51 pm »
It should be N = amount of air quanta divided by 5. Then it will just be the creature version of fahrenheit with immaterial. Also cost should be 8-10 air quanta.

 

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