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Cave In | Cave In https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18490.msg235336#msg235336
« on: December 29, 2010, 05:33:05 am »
NAME:
Cave In
ELEMENT:
Earth
COST:
6 :earth
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
All burrowed creatures are killed.
NAME:
Cave In
ELEMENT:
Earth
COST:
4 :earth
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
All burrowed creatures are killed.
ART:
Rutarete
IDEA:
Rutarete
NOTES:
here's the list of changes to make.
1. change effect from kill all to 'deal 4 damage to all burrowed and 1 to all unburrowed. the upgraded effect does 5 to the opponents burrowed and 1 to the opponents unburrowed
2. change cost from 6|4 to 3|3
3. if anyone would like to put forth other art for this card, go ahead and show me
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Re: Cave In | Cave In https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18490.msg235341#msg235341
« Reply #1 on: December 29, 2010, 05:43:38 am »
.......

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This is like OP and UP at the same time.
Outside of mutations, the only decks that have access to burrowing are Earth anyways, so this card won't see much use. But at the same time instant-kill effects are really powerful.

I don't really know how to balance it, but I can tell you that it doesn't really fit in the current game environment. Maybe in the future.

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Re: Cave In | Cave In https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18490.msg235349#msg235349
« Reply #2 on: December 29, 2010, 06:03:31 am »
Useless unless you know that your opponent is going to use graboid/shrieker rush...

but then again, costwise it's a useless counter anyway, and it is too specific for only that use, almost like holy light.
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Re: Cave In | Cave In https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18490.msg235352#msg235352
« Reply #3 on: December 29, 2010, 06:05:49 am »
i agree with evaria, instead maybe call it "flush out" or something of that nature. Make it a permanent that unburrows creatures while it is in play. i like anti burrowing ideas but its not easy to come up with something that would work outside of just burrow creatures.
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Re: Cave In | Cave In https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18490.msg235355#msg235355
« Reply #4 on: December 29, 2010, 06:10:01 am »
Very situational... and that's not good.  Pretty much the anti- :earth of all cards, and there are 11 other elements out there.  I think this makes more sense:
"Deal 4 damage to all burrowed creatures (that kills most unbuffed burrowers) and 1 damage to all unburrowed creatures".  Lower the cost too.  Maybe 5  :earth | 3  :earth ?

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Re: Cave In | Cave In https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18490.msg235468#msg235468
« Reply #5 on: December 29, 2010, 11:21:33 am »
I agree, there shouldn`t be card, that instant kill burrowed creatures, in  my opinion- it should take 1 damage per turn and it cost for example 3 :earth quanta per turn

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Re: Cave In | Cave In https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18490.msg235528#msg235528
« Reply #6 on: December 29, 2010, 02:53:44 pm »
Graboid, Shrieker, Antlion, and Devourer. Are those creatures the only burrowers?
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Re: Cave In | Cave In https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18490.msg235533#msg235533
« Reply #7 on: December 29, 2010, 03:08:09 pm »
Graboid, Shrieker, Antlion, and Devourer. Are those creatures the only burrowers?
yup, also some burrowers when U use fallen druid :D

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Re: Cave In | Cave In https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18490.msg235585#msg235585
« Reply #8 on: December 29, 2010, 05:01:19 pm »
You forgot Devourer/Pest. ;)

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Re: Cave In | Cave In https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18490.msg235601#msg235601
« Reply #9 on: December 29, 2010, 05:18:37 pm »
nah he said it, but yes this card is way too situational, i like the idea zblader came up with, it would be less situational, but would need to cost 1 :earth more then thunderstorm costs, so 3|2 should do the trick

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Re: Cave In | Cave In https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18490.msg235637#msg235637
« Reply #10 on: December 29, 2010, 06:03:00 pm »
well, don't you all agree that something against burrowers is needed?
il like Zblader's idea too. so, perhaps 4 damage unupped and 5 damage uppeD?
also, doesn't Seism or some other FGs use burrowing creatures? this could help with that
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Re: Cave In | Cave In https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18490.msg235647#msg235647
« Reply #11 on: December 29, 2010, 06:12:47 pm »
oh also, what do you think about having the upgraded version only hurt your opponent?
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