Soul | Spirit

[Koxeida]

NAME: Spirit ELEMENT: Death COST: 8 TYPE: Creature ATK|HP: 4|2 TEXT: Create a copy of itself for each successful damage dealt to your opponent. Soul comes into play with 1 poison counter.	NAME: Spirit ELEMENT: Death COST: 6 TYPE: Creature ATK|HP: 5|2 TEXT: Create a copy of itself for each successful damage dealt to your opponent. Spirit comes into play with 1 poison counter.

ART: IDEA: Koxeida NOTES: The attacker of this theme. It's ability to multiply, PU-ed in another word, which some may consider OP, is offset by high cost of summoning one, and by having a pretty low HP. SERIES: Promoting a duo deck of Life&Death. Belongs to the series : http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,16362.0.html

[Ajit]

way overpowered if I understand it correctly.  Cool art, where's it from?

[Koxeida]

Sorry, forgot to add the poison counter in the description.

For the art, I've forgotten where I've gotten it from. I'm gonna go and look for the source and give the credit very soon.

[AnonymousRevival]

Spirit seems more of a element to me.

[Uppercut]

Comes into play with a poison counter should probably be on the card itself.

[OldTrees]

So it is equivalent to 8|6 for a 24|35 attack spark that splits its damage over two turns and is highly vulnerable for 1 turn?

Note:^ was the intended function I think.

I would expect the actual result to be Soul|Spirit + Heavy Armor|Plate Armor
Total Cost: 8|6 + 1|1

Soul + Heavy Armor

Turn	Stats	Number	Total Damage
1	4|5	1	4
2	4|4	5	24
3	4|3	23	112
4	4|2	23	204
5	4|1	23	296

Spirit + Plate Armor

Turn	Stats	Number	Total Damage
1	5|8	1	5
2	5|7	6	35
3	5|6	23	150
4	5|5	23	265
5	5|4	23	380
6	5|3	23	495
7	5|2	23	610
8	5|1	23	725

I think this is obviously extremely overpowered when combined with Heavy Armor|Plate Armor.
(and to a lesser extend even without Heavy Armor|Plate Armor)

Options:
Increase Casting Cost
Add Activation Cost
Reduce number of clones generated
Reduce Attack
Increase poison and HP by an equal amount.  (This specifically targets HP buffs.)

Just as a benchmark 8|6 should deal around 8 damage times the turns it is out and 8|6 + 1|1 should deal around 10 damage times the turns it is out.

[joebob777]

just add gaurdian angle or six and it unstoppable

[Koxeida]

@OldTrees: Hey, I think you've misunderstood the description: "Create an image of itself for every damage for each successful damage dealt to your opponent"

It doesn't multiply like you said. I didn't state, each successful POINT of damage. I stated each successful damage.The 4 damage is countered as ONE, so it'll only multiply once. What I mean by successful damage is that if the opponent has dodged the damage, or reduced it to zero, soul/spirit won't multiply. There's no other way to multiply more than once, unless you use adrenaline on it, but using adrenaline has its setback. The poison will kill faster.

Sorry, if I didn't make it clear ><

So is it still overpowered?

@Uppercut: Yeah, I've forgotten to add it in the card itself.  My bad!

@joebob777: but remember, the soul/spirit has no more than 3 hp, so one firestorm can easily take all of them out!

[joebob777]

fair point, but i think it op malignat cell, only other nerf i can think of is only the original mirrors

[OldTrees]

@OldTrees: Hey, I think you've misunderstood the description: "Create an image of itself for every damage for each successful damage dealt to your opponent"

It doesn't multiply like you said. I didn't state, each successful POINT of damage. I stated each successful damage.The 4 damage is countered as ONE, so it'll only multiply once. What I mean by successful damage is that if the opponent has dodged the damage, or reduced it to zero, soul/spirit won't multiply. There's no other way to multiply more than once, unless you use adrenaline on it, but using adrenaline has its setback. The poison will kill faster.

No foul.
"each successful attack" is the wording you were looking for.

New evaluation:
Mono Death
Unupped

Turn	Stats	Number	Total Damage
1	4|2	1	4
2	4|1	2	12

Upgraded

Turn	Stats	Number	Total Damage
1	5|2	1	5
2	5|1	2	15

Death + Earth (Armor)
Unupped

Turn	Stats	Number	Total Damage	Ages
1	4|5	1	4	1
2	4|4	2	12	12
3	4|3	5	32	11123
4	4|2	13	84	1111111122234
5	4|1	23	176	11111111112222222233345

Upgraded

Turn	Stats	Number	Total Damage	Ages
1	5|8	1	5	1
2	5|7	2	15	12
3	5|6	5	40	11123
4	5|5	13	105	1111111122234
5	5|4	23	220	11111111112222222233345
5	5|3	23	335	22222222223333333344456
5	5|2	23	450	33333333334444444455567
5	5|1	23	565	44444444445555555566678

Death + Light (Angel)
Unupped

Turn	Stats	Number	Total Damage
1	4|2	1	4	8
2	4|2+4|1	1+1	12	8 + 1
3	4|2+4|1	1+2	24	8 + 2
4	4|2+4|1	1+3	40	8 + 3
5	4|2+4|1	1+4	60	8 + 4
6	4|2+4|1	1+5	84	8 + 5
7	4|2+4|1	1+6	112	8 + 6
8	4|2+4|1	1+7	144	8 + 7
9	4|2+4|1	1+8	180	8 + 8
10	4|2+4|1	1+9	220	8 + 9

Upgraded

Turn	Stats	Number	Total Damage	Cost
1	5|2	1	5	6
2	5|2+5|1	1+1	15	6 + 1
3	5|2+5|1	1+2	30	6 + 2
4	5|2+5|1	1+3	50	6 + 3
5	5|2+5|1	1+4	75	6 + 4
6	5|2+5|1	1+5	105	6 + 5
7	5|2+5|1	1+6	140	6 + 6
8	5|2+5|1	1+7	180	6 + 7
9	5|2+5|1	1+8	225	6 + 8

Evaluation
Mono Death
12|15 damage for 8|6 .
Death + Earth (Armor)
176|105 damage in 5|4 turns for 8|6 and 1|1
Death + Light (Angel)
112|105 damage in 7|6 turns for 8|6 and 6|5 (12|11 total)
FFQ
108|101 damage in 7|6 turns for 7|7 and 12|8 (19|15 total)
I think that mono death version is too powerful for its cost.
The Death + Earth version is way too powerful for its cost.
The Death + Light version can be compared to FFQ and found to be too cheap.

My recommendation:
Increase Casting Cost to 9|9
Increase Poison to 3|4
Increase HP to 4|5

This would make it so Death + Earth only survives 3 turns and would bring the costs up to around par.