Kakerlake | Cockroach

[Kakerlake]

NAME: Kakerlake ELEMENT: Other COST: 3 TYPE: Creature ATK|HP: 0|3 TEXT: : Turns Kakerlake into a Mutant. Kakerlake gets -1|-1 each turn. When it dies, produce 2 minor Kakerlake. Immaterial	NAME: Cockroach ELEMENT: Other COST: 3 TYPE: Creature ATK|HP: 0|2 TEXT: : Turns Cockroach into a Mutant. Cockroach gets -1|-1 each turn. When it dies, produce 2 minor Cockroach. Immaterial

ART: http://www.sxc.hu/photo/1187317 IDEA: Kakerlake NOTES: minor Kakerlake: Creature, 1|1,  : Evolve into Kakerlake minor Cockroach: Creature, 2|2,  : Evolve into Cockroach That Idea popped up when I was posting a reply in the "your forum card" (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,14806.0.html) topic... and I like it xD

[JJ 52]

immaterial, not immateriell

[moomoose]

it has potential, but i think you were trying too hard to make it super powerful and it got lost somewhere along the way.

this is similar to guinea pig http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,14212.0.html but with the rebirth mechanic.  does the revive as immortal minor only happen if the creature hasnt yet mutated, or does it still effect it after it mutates?

[Kakerlake]

immaterial, not immateriell

Thanks. I'll fix that next time the card is updated.

it has potential, but i think you were trying too hard to make it super powerful and it got lost somewhere along the way.

this is similar to guinea pig http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,14212.0.html but with the rebirth mechanic.  does the revive as immortal minor only happen if the creature hasnt yet mutated, or does it still effect it after it mutates?

It was the initial Idea to have some kind of maligant cell with mutation ability. This is actually the - a lot - nerfed version.

The introduced effect of guineapig is a little different. At least in the unupped verion.
The ability of Kakerlake and Cockroach is both the same as Improve. The only difference there is that Cockroach transforms into the upped version of a random creature.

The minor isn't immortal. Kakerlake/Cockroach is. A minor is like a Skelleton with transform ability.
Also, the mutation doesn't kill the creature but transforms it into something completely else. The mutant won't have any effects or abilities of the Kakerlake/Cockroach.

[moomoose]

like i said, similar, in terms of a creature that doesnt need mutation to be cast on it.  guinea pig simply has it as one of the possible effects in order to prevent it from being OP and in order to make it more interesting.

i just think that as is, this is still too powerful, as i understand it, this card would be played (immaterial so no risk of it dying), next turn a mutant would be created, over time the mutant would die, then spawn two minor ones with the ability to evolves into the original card and start the process over again.  honestly i think it would be better if you simplified it some more.  if it were me, i would cut out the generation of the minor things entirely, but its your card and thats straying from your original vision, just my 2e.

[Kakerlake]

The mechanics works like this:
- Kakerlake is played. 0/3, next round -1/2. Now I mutate it into something random, like 4/0 spark with devour. It dies, nothing else happens.
- Kakerlake is played. 0/3, next round -1/2, then -2/1 then dead. 2 minor Kakerlake are produced. 1/1, next round I transform them into Kakerlake. 0/3, next round -1/2. now I mutate both and get random stuff: 13/14 Light Dragon with momentum and 3/2 Skelleton with dive. When they die nothing happens.

[moomoose]

ah, was confused by the wording "this creature" which i thought meant "the mutant which is created".

i see where you were going with this, but it just isnt my cup of tea, good luck tho

[miniwally]

You know a mutant and an improved mutant are the same things? and the element is other not rainbow and you also need to post a link from where you got your image from.

[Kakerlake]

I wanted to emphasize that the upped version produces a upped version of a mutant. Actually that can be changed since most upped versions dont differ very much from the unupped concerning the stats.

The other element is the rainbow element since the quanta used can be colorful as a rainbow. But for you, I will do the hard work of editing my first post

The Image is from my PC, I got it a few years ago from google while searching for an avatar. I was unable to find it again in the internet. All I know is that the dude in the picture is Stubbs the zombie.

[miniwally]

I wanted to emphasize that the upped version produces a upped version of a mutant. Actually that can be changed since most upped versions dont differ very much from the unupped concerning the stats.

The other element is the rainbow element since the quanta used can be colorful as a rainbow. But for you, I will do the hard work of editing my first post

The Image is from my PC, I got it a few years ago from google while searching for an avatar. I was unable to find it again in the internet. All I know is that the dude in the picture is Stubbs the zombie.

You might've to change the picture then cause if it's made for a game it'll probably be copyrighted, also rainbow is not an element rainbow is just a combination of them where as this is separate from the i.e. other and just to confirm turning cockroach into an improved mutant isn't the same as using improved mutation on it?

[Kakerlake]

You might've to change the picture then cause if it's made for a game it'll probably be copyrighted, also rainbow is not an element rainbow is just a combination of them where as this is separate from the i.e. other and just to confirm turning cockroach into an improved mutant isn't the same as using improved mutation on it?

If something is "other" I usually think of something that is different from the rest. But the other element isn't using other quanta, it actually just uses all other quanta together. So in my opinion it is the rainbow element.
But to be conform with the rest of the community, I replaced it with Other.

About the improved mutation, that is now changed as well. Kakerlake and Cockroach now both turn into a mutant. That is the same as improved mutation from the Fallen Druid.
The old idea was to turn it into the upped version. So instead of a 3/2 Photon with devour, you will have a 3/2 RoL with devour.

[AnonymousRevival]

I suggest to raise a cost. If not, you can just put in a quantum pilarr, and you can already summon it the next turn.