Deviation | Variance

[moomoose]

NAME: Deviation ELEMENT: Entropy COST: 2 TYPE: Spell ATK|HP: TEXT: Alters the target creature's attack and hit points each turn	NAME: Variance ELEMENT: Entropy COST: 3 TYPE: Spell ATK|HP: TEXT: Alters the target creature's attack and hit points each turn

ART: moomoose IDEA: moomoose NOTES: Deviation and Variance will be marked on a creature by the addition of an icon Deviation alters the creature's ATK and HP by between -2 and +2 each turn (independent of each other). It is possible for this to kill a creature, leaving room for strategy as to who to apply it on and when. chances breakdown- 10% -2, 10% -1, 20% 0, 30% +1, 30% +2 Variance alters the creature's ATK and HP by between 0 and +3 each turn (independent of each other). It is not possible for this to kill a creature, potentially altering the relevant strategic methods chances breakdown- 20% 0, 30% +1, 30% +2, 20% +3 This is effectively a chaos power over time spell, at a higher cost, slower growth. SERIES:

[QuantumT]

Deviation seems fine, but I don't think variance is balanced. It might be like chaos power over time, but the unlimited growth for free (beyond the initial cost) seems problematic. On average it's gaining 1.5/1.5 a turn, like growth does, but on any creature and for free.

[wizelsnarf]

Deviation seems fine, but I don't think variance is balanced. It might be like chaos power over time, but the unlimited growth for free (beyond the initial cost) seems problematic. On average it's gaining 1.5/1.5 a turn, like growth does, but on any creature and for free.

What QuantumT said.


I like the idea of different mechanics as that is something entropy already has with chaos seed/chaos power and pandemonium...

Maybe there should be an upkeep on the Variance and if you can't pay it it disappears. Maybe 3 per creature per turn?

[moomoose]

yeah, i see what you mean, but it is still the cost of 3 chaos powers to put it in relative terms

to flesh it out, best case scenario of 3 chaos powers = +18 in 1 turn, best case scenario of 1 variance to reach +18 is 6 turns, over those 6 turns that is alot of potential damage lost while charging up

honestly i would rather mess with the %s (and/or the range) than add some new layer to the card. the cost is up for tweeking too.  i just dont want to delve into the kael card danger zone

[QuantumT]

yeah, i see what you mean, but it is still the cost of 3 chaos powers to put it in relative terms

But it's also only one card. Card cost (ie number of cards) is important in cost comparisons as well.

[moomoose]

thats true, but its also true that chaos power stacks, while this does not.  like i said, there is plenty of areas to potentially tweek without adding a new layer or something.  any suggestions would be welcome

[guolin]

Deviation seems UP. I suggest taking out the chance of it getting -1. That makes a 25% chance to get either -2, 0, 1, 2, and you can see a steady increase. Otherwise, on average, Deviation will do nothing.

[moomoose]

good point.  the origin of the idea was the concept of standard deviations, which is an even distribution around the mean.  alternatively, the %s could be shifted towards the increase by reducing the chances of decreases, leaving the range the same

[AnonymousRevival]

It seems to me that deviation is cheaper than variance and more powerful.

[moomoose]

wow.  just wow.