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Darkness https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13551.msg170541#msg170541
« on: October 04, 2010, 04:27:42 pm »
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Do I look like I'm here to lose?
Your soul already belongs to me.
Accept the Darkness inside of you.


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Re: Darkness. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13551.msg170543#msg170543
« Reply #1 on: October 04, 2010, 04:30:49 pm »
If you are editing the thread, you should just use this image until you are finished:

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Re: Darkness. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13551.msg170546#msg170546
« Reply #2 on: October 04, 2010, 04:32:25 pm »
If you are editing the thread, you should just use this image until you are finished:


That would actually make a great poster.  I may have to vote for that if he actually uses it. :)

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Re: Darkness. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13551.msg170549#msg170549
« Reply #3 on: October 04, 2010, 04:38:00 pm »
lol, I was told that wasn't suitable when I suggested it earlier.

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Re: Darkness https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13551.msg170568#msg170568
« Reply #4 on: October 04, 2010, 05:24:44 pm »
Updated.
- Requires SG tech for warsong

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Re: Darkness https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13551.msg170574#msg170574
« Reply #5 on: October 04, 2010, 05:34:08 pm »
You've got a watch, that means you belong to Time.

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Re: Darkness https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13551.msg170578#msg170578
« Reply #6 on: October 04, 2010, 05:37:35 pm »
Or does it mean he has Time under control?
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Re: Darkness https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13551.msg170580#msg170580
« Reply #7 on: October 04, 2010, 05:40:29 pm »
You've got a watch, that means you belong to Time.

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More like I OWN Time.

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Re: Darkness https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13551.msg170589#msg170589
« Reply #8 on: October 04, 2010, 05:53:04 pm »
Does having a thermometer make you 'own temperature'?

It's simply a measuring tool. The fact you use it means you rely on it.

When people say they 'control their time' it really means they are afraid they might run out of time, or lose control of the situation because they can do nothing about the flow of time.

That's why Time Masters don't look at clocks to check what time it is. They look at time directly.
They don't turn hourglasses upside down. They turn time upside down.
They don't make awesome banners like this one. They say they are working on one.
...
Ok, forget the last one xD


Anyway, my soul indeed belongs to me. And is in service of my Sensei. Though you are neither me, nor my Sensei.
Thus your speech is only a false propaganda... though my 'temporary speech' probably has some of that too... I'll fix that... later...
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Re: Darkness https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13551.msg170602#msg170602
« Reply #9 on: October 04, 2010, 06:22:20 pm »
Does having a thermometer make you 'own temperature'?

It's simply a measuring tool. The fact you use it means you rely on it.

When people say they 'control their time' it really means they are afraid they might run out of time, or lose control of the situation because they can do nothing about the flow of time.

That's why Time Masters don't look at clocks to check what time it is. They look at time directly.
They don't turn hourglasses upside down. They turn time upside down.
They don't make awesome banners like this one. They say they are working on one.
...
Ok, forget the last one xD


Anyway, my soul indeed belongs to me. And is in service of my Sensei. Though you are neither me, nor my Sensei.
Thus your speech is only a false propaganda... though my 'temporary speech' probably has some of that too... I'll fix that... later...
*yawn*

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Re: Darkness https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13551.msg170631#msg170631
« Reply #10 on: October 04, 2010, 06:59:30 pm »
Nope. Using does not equal relying. In fact, using is often taking advantage of. In this case, against its will, 'cause that's how Kael rolls. Darkness is eternal. It has no reliance on Time.
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Re: Darkness https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13551.msg170705#msg170705
« Reply #11 on: October 04, 2010, 09:07:19 pm »
Maybe you understand reliance differently, but for me if you use something for your advantage, you rely on it to give you advantage. If I use a screwdriver to drive screws, I rely on it to drive screws (whatever it means). If I use a crowbar, I rely on it to do the job. Without that tool I'd either be unable to do the job, or have to find an alternative (my hands for example).

So far no one had found an alternative to Time, or at least no one still alive, muahahahhaha :D

As for eternity, being eternal requires Time. Without Time nothing can be eternal. It's similar to saying that without distance nothing can have an infinite length.

Beings that exist outside of Time are not really eternal, it's a state that has no word to describe it in human languages. The main difference is that eternal things still have past (infinite), present and future (infinite). For beings outside of Time the words past, present and future have as much meaning as words Gandalf, Sauron and Gimli. It is something that from their point of view might exist, but in another world, or might not exist at all. It doesn't affect them at all though. If they have a way to influence other worlds, they don't give a damn if it's in the past or future from our point of view.

As for darkness, in our world it might be eternal because outside of time-space continuum there is no darkness. If the universe ever comes to an end, Darkness will also end.

Though, in a more metaphorical/metaphysical meaning you might extend the meaning of Darkness. For example calling things that are 'unknown' dark, or calling the act of stealing and draining powers to be of the Dark ways. As long as these acts are timeless acts, which is a very complex concept from Earthlings logic point of view, they might exist outside of time-space continuum. It's similar to the concept of God creating angels and other daemons 'before' he created the universe. There is no time relation between these events, but there is a cause and effect relation.
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