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Regeneration | Recreation https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11979.msg148373#msg148373
« on: August 29, 2010, 05:47:17 am »
NAME:
Regeneration
ELEMENT:
Life
COST:
3 :life
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:
CARD TEXT:
Target creature heals its
owner for 3 HP each turn.
NAME:
Recreation
ELEMENT:
Life
COST:
3 :life
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:
CARD TEXT:
Target creature heals its
owner for 3 HP each turn
and gains the Deja Vu ability.
ART:
Ratcharmer
IDEA:
EvaRia
NOTES:
Does not stack.
Deja Vu replaces current activated ability.
Non-activated abilities are bumped into the passive skill list.
Deja Vu costs half the original cost of the creature, rounded down, +1 in :life.
Regeneration | Recreation is a passive ability.
Yes, adrenaline triggers this multiple times.
SERIES:

For use with Adrenaline.
Healing FTW!

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Re: Regeneration | Recreation https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11979.msg149493#msg149493
« Reply #1 on: August 31, 2010, 01:54:02 pm »
2 questions on this one:
-Does the regeneration stack?
-Does it trigger multiple times with adrenaline?

I'm envisioning an adrenaline/regenerating armagio deck.

I like this one.

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Re: Regeneration | Recreation https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11979.msg149496#msg149496
« Reply #2 on: August 31, 2010, 01:57:13 pm »
otyugh, scarabs, and armagio can definitely abuse this. oh, and so can vampired dragons or golems
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Re: Regeneration | Recreation https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11979.msg149535#msg149535
« Reply #3 on: August 31, 2010, 04:33:23 pm »
>< Wording fail.
It's supposed to heal YOU, I guess I should change the wording xD

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Re: Regeneration | Recreation https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11979.msg149544#msg149544
« Reply #4 on: August 31, 2010, 04:59:38 pm »
I was thinking armagio because:
1) they're really hard to kill
2) they have low attack, so deja vu would be cheap and adrenaline would go off many times
3) they're cheap to bring out

So with adrenaline and this on a armagio you could get 2 creatures that heal you 12 hp each, deal 8 damage (assuming no shield) and are hard to CC. At least if I understand the card correctly . . .

I think the name "regeneration" might be throwing a lot of people off . . . it sounds like something that should heal the creature.

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Re: Regeneration | Recreation https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11979.msg149547#msg149547
« Reply #5 on: August 31, 2010, 05:01:39 pm »
Fair enough lol.
I'll change card text to heals it's OWNER for 3HP.
While I'm at it, is the cost okay? Recreation might need a 4 :life cost.
EDIT: Fixed, Still wondering about the cost though.

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Re: Regeneration | Recreation https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11979.msg149609#msg149609
« Reply #6 on: August 31, 2010, 07:14:55 pm »
As was pointed out to me for one of my cards "Any card that grants Deja Vu is overpowered just think this + a dragon + tu = 40 damage and up "

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Re: Regeneration | Recreation https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11979.msg149624#msg149624
« Reply #7 on: August 31, 2010, 07:36:18 pm »
I guess.
I'll change it, I have another idea.

EDIT: The idea of granting Deja Vu appears to have been deemed overpowered, changed the card to generate :life instead.

I can always change it back though, maybe Deja Vu can cost half the card's original cost? Would that be better?


EDIT: I'm in conflict on whether Deja Vu is considered OP atm. Adding poll.

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Re: Regeneration | Recreation https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11979.msg149637#msg149637
« Reply #8 on: August 31, 2010, 08:12:20 pm »
As was pointed out to me for one of my cards "Any card that grants Deja Vu is overpowered just think this + a dragon + tu = 40 damage and up "
I'm not sure I necessarily agree with whoever told you that, at least not in this case. between the cost to play the card and the cost to use deja vu it would work out to be almost as much as just playing another dragon, and it'd only work if you already had a dragon in play.

It may have needed a cost boost to prevent abuse with TU and other buffs though . . .

Let's see what others think

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Re: Regeneration | Recreation https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11979.msg149638#msg149638
« Reply #9 on: August 31, 2010, 08:14:38 pm »
I think it may be best at 4 :life,
Deja vu cost being half the original cost of the card, rounded down, +1  :life.

So, of course, changing the ability again...
This means the cost of the ability and the card for a dragon is the same (at least for the unupped ones).
The extra splash of aether needed for TUing is too difficult for what you get from it.
So it makes it less useful for adding damage but more as a way to duplicate the ability.

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Re: Regeneration | Recreation https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11979.msg149697#msg149697
« Reply #10 on: August 31, 2010, 09:53:08 pm »
gains deja vu? thats like a ranbow version of PU. unless it costs life quanta to use it, but then its still very similar
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Re: Regeneration | Recreation https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11979.msg149701#msg149701
« Reply #11 on: August 31, 2010, 09:59:11 pm »
It costs life quanta.
My main idea of the card is to play something with low atk, epi it, cast recreation on it, and deja vu for mass healing.
This has particular potency in mono life, but can be done in other combinations as well.

 

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