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Fractal Ball Lightning+Graveyard+Turtle Shield Trainer bug. [fixed] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11030.msg135732#msg135732
« on: August 11, 2010, 11:23:34 am »
So I was playing Osiris with my Undead Thunderlegion deck in the Trainer, and it turns out you only get one Elite Skeleton from the dying Ball Lightnings no matter how many Graveyards you have out when they hit the Turtle Shield. What happens is that they go into Delay, then die, then spawn one Elite Skeleton each despite me having two or three Graveyards out.
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Re: Fractal Ball Lightning+Graveyard+Turtle Shield Trainer bug. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11030.msg135758#msg135758
« Reply #1 on: August 11, 2010, 12:48:34 pm »
(Another reason to be able to choose FGs in the trainer--bug checking.)

So, I recreated the bug.  I had 11 Ball Lightnings on the field, 2 Boneyards and a 7-bone Bonewall.  The end result was 12 Skeletons and a 19-bone wall.  The delays with the hits, caused delays in the summoning of the skeletons, so that each Ball Lightning only produced 1, except for either the first or last one which produced 2.  The Bone Wall followed the Skeleton's lead and only produced 12 instead of 22.

With 2 Boneyards:
1 Ball Lightning > 2 Skeletons
2 Ball Lightnings > 2 Skeletons
3 Ball Lightnings > 4 Skeletons
4 Ball Lightnings > 4 Skeletons
5 > 6


UPDATE: Verified in real game vs AI3.  Every second Ball Lightning when going against the delay shield does not trigger death effects--Boneyard, Bone Wall and Vulture.

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Re: Fractal Ball Lightning+Graveyard+Turtle Shield Trainer bug. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11030.msg135952#msg135952
« Reply #2 on: August 11, 2010, 05:43:15 pm »
@smuglapse: i'm sorry, i didn't quite get the explanation above. so, was it intentional (natural game mechanic) or it's a bug?
because the idea from hirugashi's deck looks really promising.

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Re: Fractal Ball Lightning+Graveyard+Turtle Shield Trainer bug. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11030.msg135959#msg135959
« Reply #3 on: August 11, 2010, 05:48:26 pm »
It's definitely a bug.  It only occurs when going against the delay shield (Procrastination/Turtle).

Any other time Ball Lightning will cause the standard death effects.

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Re: Fractal Ball Lightning+Graveyard+Turtle Shield Trainer bug. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11030.msg135975#msg135975
« Reply #4 on: August 11, 2010, 06:08:30 pm »
okay, thnx for clarifying that. btw, do you think the same will happen vs permafrost shield? i'm too lazy to try it myself :P

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Re: Fractal Ball Lightning+Graveyard+Turtle Shield Trainer bug. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11030.msg135994#msg135994
« Reply #5 on: August 11, 2010, 06:37:03 pm »
Yes, the same thing happens.

It also seems that you have to have more than one Boneyard for the bug to take place.  It's weird.

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Re: Fractal Ball Lightning+Graveyard+Turtle Shield Trainer bug. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11030.msg136150#msg136150
« Reply #6 on: August 11, 2010, 09:02:49 pm »
The almighty Zanz has listened, and he fixed it in v1.25:

- Using multiple graveyards/boneyards grants a correct number of skeletons even when creatures die while affected by shields

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Re: Fractal Ball Lightning+Graveyard+Turtle Shield Trainer bug. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11030.msg136155#msg136155
« Reply #7 on: August 11, 2010, 09:05:47 pm »
The almighty Zanz has listened, and he fixed it in v1.25:

- Using multiple graveyards/boneyards grants a correct number of skeletons even when creatures die while affected by shields
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I'm astonished.  That is fast work.

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Re: Fractal Ball Lightning+Graveyard+Turtle Shield Trainer bug. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11030.msg136366#msg136366
« Reply #8 on: August 12, 2010, 12:37:08 am »
Great success. And yes, suxerz, it works (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,7536.0.html).
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Re: Fractal Ball Lightning+Graveyard+Turtle Shield Trainer bug. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11030.msg136613#msg136613
« Reply #9 on: August 12, 2010, 09:31:43 am »
Great success. And yes, suxerz, it works (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,7536.0.html).
sorry, i didn't mean no offense when i said the idea looks promising. it's a wrong choice of word.
it's true that the deck really works - what i meant was that the idea for fractal sparks + boneyard +bonewall looks really promising to be incorporated into some other deck built (maybe).

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Re: Fractal Ball Lightning+Graveyard+Turtle Shield Trainer bug. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11030.msg136632#msg136632
« Reply #10 on: August 12, 2010, 10:30:50 am »
Great success. And yes, suxerz, it works (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,7536.0.html).
sorry, i didn't mean no offense when i said the idea looks promising. it's a wrong choice of word.
it's true that the deck really works - what i meant was that the idea for fractal sparks + boneyard +bonewall looks really promising to be incorporated into some other deck built (maybe).
No offense taken, I simply linked to a deck that uses the strategy. :>
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Re: Fractal Ball Lightning+Graveyard+Turtle Shield Trainer bug. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11030.msg137462#msg137462
« Reply #11 on: August 13, 2010, 12:57:14 pm »
Is the old bug now fixed to new one (at 1.25)?

I played couple of minutes ago with Hope-RoL deck against Incarnate.  It infected one of my RoLs with Bloodsucker and at next attack the RoL died with 2 Graveyards in play, but now it generated 4 E.Skeletons! And at the next turn it repeated: 1 dying RoL made 6 E.Skeletons from 3 Graveyards!

 

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