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Demeter| Demeter https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10205.msg124394#msg124394
« on: July 26, 2010, 12:05:43 am »
NAME:
Demeter
ELEMENT:
Life
COST:
:life
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
7|7
ABILITY:
After Life: Creatures you control turn into a Rustler instead of dieing.
NAME:
Demeter
ELEMENT:
Life
COST:
:life
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
8|8
ABILITY:
After Life: Creatures you control turn into a Leaf Dragon instead of dieing.
ART:
Rainbowz
IDEA:
Rainbowz
NOTES:
After Life= all creatures you control turn into a Leaf Dragon.
SERIES:
God Series

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Re: Demeter| Demeter https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10205.msg124397#msg124397
« Reply #1 on: July 26, 2010, 12:08:29 am »
Large difference between the unupped and upped versions. Lower cost, higher stats, and bettter ability. Remove one of those, or better yet, make the upped version cost 10.
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Re: Demeter| Demeter https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10205.msg124411#msg124411
« Reply #2 on: July 26, 2010, 12:24:00 am »
Nope the point of upping is a better card.

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Re: Demeter| Demeter https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10205.msg124413#msg124413
« Reply #3 on: July 26, 2010, 12:27:12 am »
Nope the point of upping is a better card.
No, really? I never would have guessed!

It's too much of an improvement. No cards in the game make a card that much better through an upgrade. Either increase the cost of the upped or decrease it's stats. It's supposed to be balanced.
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Re: Demeter| Demeter https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10205.msg124420#msg124420
« Reply #4 on: July 26, 2010, 12:32:03 am »
First off, i dont like attitude, second of would 9 or 10 cost be more appropiate.

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Re: Demeter| Demeter https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10205.msg124519#msg124519
« Reply #5 on: July 26, 2010, 03:21:55 am »
On average, an upgrade is worth 2 points worth of stats increased, OR an improved ability, OR a reduction in card cost.  You have all three, which is worth 4500 electrum, not 1500.  Pick one.  You could decrease the stats if you want an improved ability AND same card cost, or you can increase the card cost if you want to keep the stats and ability.  But all three is far too much.

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Re: Demeter| Demeter https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10205.msg124524#msg124524
« Reply #6 on: July 26, 2010, 03:32:02 am »
Make it cost the same and have the same stats, and have the upgraded version generate a leaf dragon. That should be fair.

Or keep the stats and cost changes and still make it generate rustler.

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Re: Demeter| Demeter https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10205.msg124676#msg124676
« Reply #7 on: July 26, 2010, 11:51:56 am »
I find this card very laughable  :)) If i were an elements creature, I might prefer to just die instead of living an afterlife as a leaf dragon. Unless of course it's the lucky leaf dragon in that short story competition entry; think it was zac who wrote it, and he had the knack to include a stupid last sentence. On a more serious note, I agree that your upped version is too much more powerful than your unupped version.

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Re: Demeter| Demeter https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10205.msg124692#msg124692
« Reply #8 on: July 26, 2010, 12:46:55 pm »
Rainbowz - you should probably do the following if you want this card (alongside your others) recognized as a possibility to be entered into the Crucible (as well as being a part of a Series).

-TYPE OUT the description of the creature's ability in the 'Ability' table. "After life" is not sufficient.
-You need to make sure there are no discrepancies between the card art image and the table

I don't want to question your artistic abilities, but I feel that you should provide a link to the art work you used for the card image. If it's based off something you drew, then truly this is amazing - otherwise, provide credit where it's due.

That said... rustlers or leaf dragons? Unless you're a  :light/ :life duo, those Leaf Dragons are absolutely useless in most cases.

I'd rather have my dead creatures turn into pillars or something representing their element, so that I could possibly play more of them in future with this card (sort of like a mix between anti-Nymph's Tears and Graveyard).

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Re: Demeter| Demeter https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10205.msg124725#msg124725
« Reply #9 on: July 26, 2010, 02:34:23 pm »
Leaf dragons are not useless (they are the same as skellies), and not only a :light/ :life but an :entropy/ :life deck could use this.
(druid).

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Re: Demeter| Demeter https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10205.msg124789#msg124789
« Reply #10 on: July 26, 2010, 04:27:11 pm »
Oh yes, i have been going to art classes all my life. I drew this in real life and colored on here. It took alot of time to make this series. :)

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Re: Demeter| Demeter https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10205.msg124804#msg124804
« Reply #11 on: July 26, 2010, 04:43:38 pm »
Oh yes, i have been going to art classes all my life. I drew this in real life and colored on here. It took a lot of time to make this series. :)
Very well then, it's beautiful. :)

On that note though, you need to change your table so that the discrepancies between the table and the artwork are not there. The curator won't accept it into the crucible in its current format until you fix these errors.

Here's an example of a correct table for this card idea:

NAME:
Demeter
ELEMENT:
Life
COST:
:life
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
7 | 7
ABILITY:
Afterlife: all creatures you
control turn into a rustler
once they die.
NAME:
Demeter
ELEMENT:
Life
COST:
:life
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
7 | 7
ABILITY:
Afterlife: all creatures you
control turn into a Leaf
Dragon once they die.
ART:
Rainbowz
IDEA:
Rainbowz
NOTES:
-
SERIES:
God Series (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,10140.0.html)

The highlighted parts indicated the areas that you need to fix (or match) with the card, or else people will wonder whether you have the right card art, if it's been changed, if you can't fill out the table, etc.

Leaf dragons are not useless (they are the same as skellies), and not only a :light/ :life but an :entropy/ :life deck could use this. (druid).
I suppose that could work then, but unless you're :light or :entropy trying to use this mechanic (in which case you're HOPING that your creatures will die to get a Leaf Dragon/Rustler), then the Leaf Dragons can be easily negated by a shield or other forms of creature control.

Also, what would happen, if say, a Leaf Dragon spawned by Demeter was to be killed? Would it spawn another Leaf Dragon by default?

 

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