Elements Mafia 73 - by PlayerOa

[Linkcat]

I'm reading his typical shock being shock as null toward alignment. Are you finding it scummy? Seems like anyone familiar with him at all would not see anything much yet.

(Don't you go taking some kind of "informational Lynch" angle either...)

Rob, my friend, is it possible you are insinuating that pushes in the vein of Infolynch are somehow a bad idea? I'll have you know that Infolynch was recently ranked #8 on a top ten lynch list on Mafia Universe, right below two other amazing lynches that we know and love. I'm sure that if I lynched shock on Day 1, it would find it's way on a similar list if one was ever made for this community, and shame on you for suggesting that it could ever have a chance of going wrong.

https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/threads/25711-23-The-Ten-Worst-Mislynches-in-Champs-History-and-How-to-Avoid-Them-%28by-GeneralHankerchief%29

That was a nice read, pretty funny how two of our players got lynched in such bad circumstances there.

Also, whoever is Anubis, please don't just immaterial anyone that asks for it.

Actually, don't immaterial anyone(not even yourself) unless they are confirmed. I hope everyone agrees using it is scummy as hell since it's just bad for the town.

Right, I forgot about buffs. No need to give me Immaterial, but I'll happily take Momentum/Adrenaline from the Nymphs after they buff themselves, and also a Heal.

[moehrpi]

While frozen / borrowed, can you place votes but remove them at the end of the day and not be modkilled?

Yes, if you roll crusader in distinct rounds. No, editing/removing posts is illegal.

I meant removing your vote at the end of the day.

[PlayerOa]

Nah, that’s also not cool.

[Ge0metry v1.2]

I don't have anything to add discussion wise, just wanted to make a post so people know I'm active and reading everything.

[kaempfer13]

Hello, i've finally read up (damn you link, you distracted me with that link to mu).

As mentioned in my signup post, i have less time, so i will skip the chit-chat and focus solely on solving. as such I'm no longer an ideal target for your antics, shock, I will read what you say (except spoiler warnings that tell me not to read said spoiler, lol), but I dont guarantee that i will post more than once per (real life) day, so it wont be easy to interact with me in realtime.

[kaempfer13]

Am I mafia? I don’t know. How long do you think I can resist checking my role?

(Don’t worry Oa, I will, eventually.)

I like that, I regret checking mine now

Not checking your role is strictly antitown. You could be deja-vu and already have a lock clear (obv do not claim if you do unless either of you is in imminent danger of getting lynched, as both deja vus would get nked asap) or some other pr that either should be targeting a scumread or a townread depending on what it is. not knowing your role yourself is never good if you're town.
As such regretting checking your role points towards being scum/not understanding the game.

[TheonlyrealBeef]

Are Golden Nymph and Deja Vu the only town only roles? The descriptions seem to imply there may be multiple Guardian Angels, maf Guardian Angels or even no Guardian Angels at all.

As for the general consensus on role usage: I take it no one will mind free information role usage (with the exception of Warden?) and town will mind offensive role usage unless used to kill someone highly suspect, but what about the defensive roles?

All I hope is MasterWalks doesn't get some blocking ability again and spams it for no reason

Also, whoever is Anubis, please don't just immaterial anyone that asks for it.

Actually, don't immaterial anyone(not even yourself) unless they are confirmed. I hope everyone agrees using it is scummy as hell since it's just bad for the town.

What about Burrow or Divine Shield? They protect from both the nightkill AND secondary abilities, but have similar drawbacks otherwise. I take it these are ok to protect yourself with?

Anubis, Green/Amber Nymph seem ok to use on yourself or confirmed town, but also only confirmed town? I know people tend to be eager to use their ability, so I'd like to reach a consensus on ability usage to ensure maf does not feign innocence and town does not inflict unintended harm.

Guardian Angel seems safe to use at random.

[PlayerOa]

Deja vu is town only, Angel can be both.

[TheonlyrealBeef]

EBWOP: I unintentionally lumped Anubis together in the no one minding to target yourself with. But the rest still stands, including the not minding to target confirmed town with.

[PlayerOa]

And to further clarify your example, TorB: there can be 0, 1, 2, ... , n Guardian Angels, as any other role (except Golden Nymph, which is 1, and Deja Vu, which is either 0 or 2).

[kaempfer13]

DC - what's with the seemingly unnecessary wasteful early (N0??) claim?! For all we know you could be mafia trying to use this to combine with teammates to find and trap\uncover other roles. What is TP (toilet paper? Is there murder hornet hoarding problems in your area?) and LO (league organizer? Are they pertinent to this?)...

I would consider this minor rage real; slight townie points (toned down a little by the fact that he might just be mad that he has no idea what dc is talking about and thus might be mad even as mafia). Rob/DC not w/w from this

[kaempfer13]

In Discord call a conversation was had

shock: so... are you mafia?
serp: no
shock: no. so we're on the same team
serp: no, you're mafia
shock: guess there's only one way to find out
serp: just have to lynch
shock: so I'll have to go against you today
serp: aa no, go against me tomorrow
shock: huh, okay

disconnected

shock, what made you assume serp was town here?