Elements Mafia 61 - by Linkcat

[UTAlan]

My bad. Totally missed the modkill. Now to put some pressure on fabian instead.

mathman101 {1} - Sera
Solaris {1} - rob77dp
worldwideweb3 {1} - Solaris
fabian771 «1» - UTAlan

[rob77dp]

* EBWOP - I have corrected bracket-abuse in my first issue of these statements and also offer the new content at the bottom of the post.

Spoiler for quote pyramid snip:

ok, so conf town (imo) is sera, fippe and math.

@Sol, why did you choose to ask me and not people alive who have posted less?
I also have a bit of negative feeling about root. I doubt his ability is even true, to start with. But then, his useful posts havent really been much detailed. Also, him staying alive till now is weird too, normally he would be mafia's top nk targets.
@gino, have you been able to confirm yourself through your ability?
@fabian talk more please

conf town is not an imo thing, it either is or it isnt

If 3dubs = maf, one of his teammates are in that pile.

Please clarify this 'pile'? I see a list of three players you mention - one of which is YOURSELF, making me think you're attempting to share information and ideas but are falling short (either intentionally - we know what faction that is - or unintentionally - this could be either faction and is cleared up by posting more complete information). Can you be more specific so that information you are trying to convey is accurate and clear when we review threads in later phases?

~I might add that you're giving me the same vibe you had in Root's "1984" mafia #59... Start here and read back a little bit...~


At least your target is still in the game though, Sol, which brings me to:

And just for transparency's sake, don't forget that I was willing (but too lazy when it wasn't needed) to move my vote onto numbers, as well.

Thanks for speaking up UTA - if I add that into what I posted earlier then it appears your too-lazy-to-vote-but-were-present-and-willing-to-vote occurred between www3's and JonathanCrazyJ's vote, like this? (again, a goofy color on a vote total from me is to indicate a PAST scenario being analyzed/discusses):
mathman101 {0} - Espithel
godisnowonline {4-1} - Hyroen, rob77dp,UTAlan, Sera
CleanOnion {3} - RootRanger, andretimpa, fabian771
RootRanger {1} - 1011686
1011686 <7+1> - Fippe94, killsdazombies, CleanOnion, mathman101 Solaris, Solaris mathman101, worldwideweb3, lazy post-but-no-vote, JonathanCrazyJ

With this revised (and correct) vote history from Day 3 I think much of Sera's logic/reasoning ends up putting suspicion onto Sol (consider also the N0 use of the Lobotomizer-equivalent on town-Espithel which I have yet to settle in my mind as the action of a town/Solaris).

The fact that I actually followed all that is impressive. Posts like these are why I have you leaning town.


mathman101 {1} - Sera
Solaris {1} - rob77dp
worldwideweb3 {1} - Solaris
dawn to dusk «1» - UTAlan

Hi dawn. What have you been up to? Why shouldn't we lynch you?

I know I already alerted that this is erroneous but I see reading back I never officially asked UTAlan to fix/correct to a proper target or thought process/vote.  UT - can you take a bit of time and clear this up?  Thanks.

The conf town list.

Not. Sure. If. Serious. On thinking that is clarifying your meaning...?

Which conf town list? The only truly confirmed town list, really truly, is the dead civ list which does us little good. Hence, conf town list is generally some degree of subjective so this means you could be most-town-helpful by alleviating ambiguity to type an actual list or color/highlight it in a quote.

Or can you confirm this typed list of names:
- Sera
- Fippe
- math

[Solaris]

* EBWOP - I have corrected bracket-abuse in my first issue of these statements and also offer the new content at the bottom of the post.

Spoiler for quote pyramid snip:

ok, so conf town (imo) is sera, fippe and math.

@Sol, why did you choose to ask me and not people alive who have posted less?
I also have a bit of negative feeling about root. I doubt his ability is even true, to start with. But then, his useful posts havent really been much detailed. Also, him staying alive till now is weird too, normally he would be mafia's top nk targets.
@gino, have you been able to confirm yourself through your ability?
@fabian talk more please

conf town is not an imo thing, it either is or it isnt

If 3dubs = maf, one of his teammates are in that pile.

Please clarify this 'pile'? I see a list of three players you mention - one of which is YOURSELF, making me think you're attempting to share information and ideas but are falling short (either intentionally - we know what faction that is - or unintentionally - this could be either faction and is cleared up by posting more complete information). Can you be more specific so that information you are trying to convey is accurate and clear when we review threads in later phases?

~I might add that you're giving me the same vibe you had in Root's "1984" mafia #59... Start here and read back a little bit...~


At least your target is still in the game though, Sol, which brings me to:

And just for transparency's sake, don't forget that I was willing (but too lazy when it wasn't needed) to move my vote onto numbers, as well.

Thanks for speaking up UTA - if I add that into what I posted earlier then it appears your too-lazy-to-vote-but-were-present-and-willing-to-vote occurred between www3's and JonathanCrazyJ's vote, like this? (again, a goofy color on a vote total from me is to indicate a PAST scenario being analyzed/discusses):
mathman101 {0} - Espithel
godisnowonline {4-1} - Hyroen, rob77dp,UTAlan, Sera
CleanOnion {3} - RootRanger, andretimpa, fabian771
RootRanger {1} - 1011686
1011686 <7+1> - Fippe94, killsdazombies, CleanOnion, mathman101 Solaris, Solaris mathman101, worldwideweb3, lazy post-but-no-vote, JonathanCrazyJ

With this revised (and correct) vote history from Day 3 I think much of Sera's logic/reasoning ends up putting suspicion onto Sol (consider also the N0 use of the Lobotomizer-equivalent on town-Espithel which I have yet to settle in my mind as the action of a town/Solaris).

The fact that I actually followed all that is impressive. Posts like these are why I have you leaning town.


mathman101 {1} - Sera
Solaris {1} - rob77dp
worldwideweb3 {1} - Solaris
dawn to dusk «1» - UTAlan

Hi dawn. What have you been up to? Why shouldn't we lynch you?

I know I already alerted that this is erroneous but I see reading back I never officially asked UTAlan to fix/correct to a proper target or thought process/vote.  UT - can you take a bit of time and clear this up?  Thanks.

The conf town list.

Not. Sure. If. Serious. On thinking that is clarifying your meaning...?

Which conf town list? The only truly confirmed town list, really truly, is the dead civ list which does us little good. Hence, conf town list is generally some degree of subjective so this means you could be most-town-helpful by alleviating ambiguity to type an actual list or color/highlight it in a quote.

Or can you confirm this typed list of names:
- Sera
- Fippe
- math

Yes. That list. One is mafia if 3dubs is mafia, because he stated that "imo, these 3 are confirmed town". Confirmations are not based off opinions, but scumminess is.

[UTAlan]

I'm kinda with w3 on this one. Maybe "imo" was a poor choice of words, but would "from my perspective" have changed anything? I included something similar in my most recent long post - how there were 13 players who hadn't claimed to confirm someone or to have been confirmed, but 12 if you exclude me since *I* know that I'm town. (Note that those #s are not actually accurate, but my point stands.)

[Solaris]

I'm kinda with w3 on this one. Maybe "imo" was a poor choice of words, but would "from my perspective" have changed anything? I included something similar in my most recent long post - how there were 13 players who hadn't claimed to confirm someone or to have been confirmed, but 12 if you exclude me since *I* know that I'm town. (Note that those #s are not actually accurate, but my point stands.)

regardless of perspective, towns that are not confirmed by game mechanics are not confirmed town.

still dislike the "I know I'm town" bit

[RootRanger]

So, Sera (confirmed civ) is suspicious of mathman (confirmed civ) -- could someone who has been following more intently explain how each of them were "confirmed"?

[rob77dp]

So, Sera (confirmed civ) is suspicious of mathman (confirmed civ) -- could someone who has been following more intently explain how each of them were "confirmed"?

I think the answer is day 3 vote history confusion... that Sera's analysis leading to math is really leading to Solaris.

[worldwideweb3]

Sol, you still haven't answered my question.

[andretimpa]

mathman101 {1} - Sera
Solaris {1} - rob77dp
worldwideweb3 {1} - Solaris
fabian771 «2» - UTAlan, andretimpa

Those are some really confusing trains of thought.

Until someone has a better lead I'm putting presure on fabian to talk.

[Naii_the_Baf]

Will go answer early before any train arrives on me.

I can't get my own conclusions, ok? That's why my posting in the thread is low and all.
I've been following trains that have good reasons just for going on with the rest.

I did actually know you'd put pressure on me for not posting, but it's simply the fact that I don't know what to post. My analyzing here is way too bad for it.
If I were to discover something, I would actually go for it and post it. There's nothing else.

[DoubleCapitals]

mathman101 {1} - Sera
Solaris {1} - rob77dp
worldwideweb3 {1} - Solaris
fabian771 {2} - UTAlan, andretimpa
andretimpa {1} - DoubleCapitals

Knowing fabian is new, I honestly think he'd play much better with the mafia on his side. Would vote UTA, but I read his reluctance to stab an actually.... active player as leaning town. I don't think he's confirmed yet though, is he?

[UTAlan]

I am not confirmed. Keeping vote on fabian for now, but interested to see if andre will speak up at all.