Player Rules
1. You are not allowed to communicate about this mafia in any way outside of this thread, unless given permission by the host. You may have conversations in chat as long as you post the complete chat log in the thread immediately afterwards. If any player PMs you on accident, immediately post the complete chat log or forum PM in the thread.
Limits on Roles
Most roles have two abilities. - Can both roles be used during the same night? (if we don't count exceptions)
Player Rules
4. Players must post at least once during each 48 hour phase, unless you notify me with a viable reason. The first time you break this rule, you will be given a warning. The second time, you will be modkilled. If your second offense is due to not logging into the forum, you will have an additional phase before you are modkilled. - What if the player gives viable reason only after the modkill? I'd personally suggest keeping the modkill and carrying on with the game.
10. Codes and the like are not allowed. Breadcrumbing is allowed. - I think I know what you mean about codes (for reasons), but others might not know about "the Specific" kind of coding. I think describing what you mean by codes would help.
I'm confused about the breadcrumbing part though. That phrase evolved into a meme that I cannot comprehend, so I need some help with what that means. X_x
11. In order to sign up, you must acknowledge that you have read and underst__d these rules, and include the number of characters in your username in your signup post.
Game Rules
1. The game will start on Night 0, which will be followed by Day 1. Phases will be a minimum of 48 hours. - I think the answer is Yes, but can all abilities be used during Night 0 and will players NOT be immune to nightkills? Also, is there maximum length for phases?
2. Only the last PM sent from the Mafia stating the Nightkill will be counted. The mafia kill is factional and cannot be roleblocked or tracked. - Can it be redirected? You mentioned role redirection somewhere.
4. You are allowed to vote for No Lynch. - If there are more votes on No Lynch than on any other players, will a lynch still occur if there are no ties?
6. Phases will not end until both the timer has ended and there has been 5 minutes since the last post. If any sort of endless voting loop occurs that affects the lynch, there will be No Lynch. - voting loop? You said that nothing can affect the votes. What do you mean?
I've read, but didn't understand the rules yet. Here are my questions:Limits on Roles
Most roles have two abilities. - Can both roles be used during the same night? (if we don't count exceptions)
Player Rules
4. Players must post at least once during each 48 hour phase, unless you notify me with a viable reason. The first time you break this rule, you will be given a warning. The second time, you will be modkilled. If your second offense is due to not logging into the forum, you will have an additional phase before you are modkilled. - What if the player gives viable reason only after the modkill? I'd personally suggest keeping the modkill and carrying on with the game. Dead players should stay dead.
10. Codes and the like are not allowed. Breadcrumbing is allowed. - I think I know what you mean about codes (for reasons), but others might not know about "the Specific" kind of coding. I think describing what you mean by codes would help.
I'm confused about the breadcrumbing part though. That phrase evolved into a meme that I cannot comprehend, so I need some help with what that means. X_x
11. In order to sign up, you must acknowledge that you have read and underst__d these rules, and include the number of characters in your username in your signup post.
Game Rules
1. The game will start on Night 0, which will be followed by Day 1. Phases will be a minimum of 48 hours. - I think the answer is Yes, but can all abilities be used during Night 0 and will players NOT be immune to nightkills? Also, is there maximum length for phases?
2. Only the last PM sent from the Mafia stating the Nightkill will be counted. The mafia kill is factional and cannot be roleblocked or tracked. - Can it be redirected? You mentioned role redirection somewhere.
4. You are allowed to vote for No Lynch. - If there are more votes on No Lynch than on any other players, will a lynch still occur if there are no ties?
6. Phases will not end until both the timer has ended and there has been 5 minutes since the last post. If any sort of endless voting loop occurs that affects the lynch, there will be No Lynch. - voting loop? You said that nothing can affect the votes. What do you mean?
InnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnThere is one character in my name. His name is Mr Onion. He goes on adventures with his friend, Mrs Parsnip.One day, Mr Onion and Mrs Parsnip were out for a walk in the park.
The sun was shining, the clouds were white and fluffy and pure, and the sky was a deep blue - the kind of blue that feels secure, like nothing could go wrong in the world. Mr Onion was happy.
Mr Onion was so happy that he pulled Mrs Parnsip closer towards him and gave her a big hug. Mrs Parsnip looked up at him, her eyes full of emotion.And by emotion I mean tears.Mr Onion was very concerned. He'd never seen Mrs Parsnip cry before. So he leaned towards her and whispered into her ear, "What's wrong, my sweetest parsnip?"
Mrs Parnsip looked up at him. "I'm scared." she replied. Mr Onion was confused. The sun was shining, the clouds were white and fluffy and pure, and the sky was a deep blue. What could Mrs Parsnip possibly be scared of?
He leaned towards her again. "My sweetest parsnip, from whence doth this fear come?"
Mrs Parsnip sniffed emotionally.
"I'm scared that I'll lose you."Mr Onion was now even more confused. He looked at Mrs Parsnip, quite frankly a little befuddled. He looked at the sun, the clouds, and the sky. He looked at the green grass and the happy children playing in the park. He looked down at his rotund, shiny purple self; and he looked at Mrs Parsnip's white conical shape.
He was in love with Mrs Parsnip, and he wasn't going anywhere. She wouldn't lose him.
So he leaned in close. "My sweetest parsnip, I'm yours. You'll never lose me."
Mrs Parsnip smiled with her mouth, but her eyes betrayed her."I'm sorry." she whispered. "You must know how difficult this is for me."
Mr Onion was confused. Perhaps... Mrs Parsnip wanted someone else? He grew a little angry, and glanced over towards Mr Potato. But Mr Potato was rather average.
"A real man has layers" Mr Onion's father, Mr Mr Onion, had told him.
Perhaps Mrs Parsnip was simply crying because he was being chopped? Mr Onion looked around, but there was no knife to be seen.
"My sweetest parsnip, no one is cutting me up to put me in soup. Whyever are you crying?"
Mrs Parsnip looked away."You've called me your sweetest parsnip for as long as I can remember. Ever since I was a little girl." Mrs Parsnip smiled and wiped a tear from her eye. "So many happy memories."
"Then let us add today's memory to our collection." Mr Onion said. "Another happy memory for the photo album."
Mrs Parsnip smiled a perfectly melancholy smile. "What am I to you?" she asked.
"The love of my life." replied Mr Onion, reaching out to touch Mrs Parsnip's cheek. She flinched away.
"I'm sorry." she said. "I'm so, so sorry. But I suppose it doesn't really matter to you anymore."
"What are you talking about?""They said you would end up as a vegetable, when you were diagnosed, but I didn't know they meant you'd think you are one." Mrs Parsnip said. She had been kneeling on the floor next to Mr Onion's bed, and stood up. Her eyes glanced quickly towards Mr Onion's heart monitor.
Mr Onion had many things to say. But at that moment, there were so many things he could say, that he could not decide on one. He was at a loss for words, his mouth opening and closing silently.
Mrs Parsnip continued. "We can't afford to keep you here much longer, dad." She was outright crying now.
"My sweetest parsnip, I don't know what you mean. I only wish to walk in the park with you, under the loving sun."
Mrs Parsnip looked away. "If that's what you wish."As Paris was leaving the ward, a nurse placed her hand on her shoulder. Paris was clearly in distress, and struggling to hold back tears.
"Miss Nippe, are things okay? How is your father?" the nurse asked.
Paris looked at the nurse. She had the friendliest eyes she'd ever seen, and the hand on her shoulder felt so calming. She needed a hug, but couldn't bring herself to ask.
"He said he wanted to walk in the park. Under the loving sun."
The nurse nodded solemnly, and with a glance toward Mr Nippe, said "He'll get his wish soon enough. He'll be free soon."
InnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnThere is one character in my name. His name is Mr Onion. He goes on adventures with his friend, Mrs Parsnip.One day, Mr Onion and Mrs Parsnip were out for a walk in the park.
The sun was shining, the clouds were white and fluffy and pure, and the sky was a deep blue - the kind of blue that feels secure, like nothing could go wrong in the world. Mr Onion was happy.
Mr Onion was so happy that he pulled Mrs Parnsip closer towards him and gave her a big hug. Mrs Parsnip looked up at him, her eyes full of emotion.And by emotion I mean tears.Mr Onion was very concerned. He'd never seen Mrs Parsnip cry before. So he leaned towards her and whispered into her ear, "What's wrong, my sweetest parsnip?"
Mrs Parnsip looked up at him. "I'm scared." she replied. Mr Onion was confused. The sun was shining, the clouds were white and fluffy and pure, and the sky was a deep blue. What could Mrs Parsnip possibly be scared of?
He leaned towards her again. "My sweetest parsnip, from whence doth this fear come?"
Mrs Parsnip sniffed emotionally.
"I'm scared that I'll lose you."Mr Onion was now even more confused. He looked at Mrs Parsnip, quite frankly a little befuddled. He looked at the sun, the clouds, and the sky. He looked at the green grass and the happy children playing in the park. He looked down at his rotund, shiny purple self; and he looked at Mrs Parsnip's white conical shape.
He was in love with Mrs Parsnip, and he wasn't going anywhere. She wouldn't lose him.
So he leaned in close. "My sweetest parsnip, I'm yours. You'll never lose me."
Mrs Parsnip smiled with her mouth, but her eyes betrayed her."I'm sorry." she whispered. "You must know how difficult this is for me."
Mr Onion was confused. Perhaps... Mrs Parsnip wanted someone else? He grew a little angry, and glanced over towards Mr Potato. But Mr Potato was rather average.
"A real man has layers" Mr Onion's father, Mr Mr Onion, had told him.
Perhaps Mrs Parsnip was simply crying because he was being chopped? Mr Onion looked around, but there was no knife to be seen.
"My sweetest parsnip, no one is cutting me up to put me in soup. Whyever are you crying?"
Mrs Parsnip looked away."You've called me your sweetest parsnip for as long as I can remember. Ever since I was a little girl." Mrs Parsnip smiled and wiped a tear from her eye. "So many happy memories."
"Then let us add today's memory to our collection." Mr Onion said. "Another happy memory for the photo album."
Mrs Parsnip smiled a perfectly melancholy smile. "What am I to you?" she asked.
"The love of my life." replied Mr Onion, reaching out to touch Mrs Parsnip's cheek. She flinched away.
"I'm sorry." she said. "I'm so, so sorry. But I suppose it doesn't really matter to you anymore."
"What are you talking about?""They said you would end up as a vegetable, when you were diagnosed, but I didn't know they meant you'd think you are one." Mrs Parsnip said. She had been kneeling on the floor next to Mr Onion's bed, and stood up. Her eyes glanced quickly towards Mr Onion's heart monitor.
Mr Onion had many things to say. But at that moment, there were so many things he could say, that he could not decide on one. He was at a loss for words, his mouth opening and closing silently.
Mrs Parsnip continued. "We can't afford to keep you here much longer, dad." She was outright crying now.
"My sweetest parsnip, I don't know what you mean. I only wish to walk in the park with you, under the loving sun."
Mrs Parsnip looked away. "If that's what you wish."As Paris was leaving the ward, a nurse placed her hand on her shoulder. Paris was clearly in distress, and struggling to hold back tears.
"Miss Nippe, are things okay? How is your father?" the nurse asked.
Paris looked at the nurse. She had the friendliest eyes she'd ever seen, and the hand on her shoulder felt so calming. She needed a hug, but couldn't bring herself to ask.
"He said he wanted to walk in the park. Under the loving sun."
The nurse nodded solemnly, and with a glance toward Mr Nippe, said "He'll get his wish soon enough. He'll be free soon."
Signups extended one day due to RL complications.
Signups extended one day due to RL complications.
Link is having trouble coming up with roles :P
Signups extended one day due to RL complications.
Link is having trouble coming up with roles :P
Maybe he realised we can't all be Linkcat.
Deep down we are all Linkcats.
Deep down we are all Linkcats.Even if we change our names, we must realize what is in front of us. :P
Being closed mafia, we should all try to post lots to gain as much info as possible. The more we post, the easier it will be to find the scum possibly.
I'd assume standard Follow The Cop can and will wreck the town.Why would we want to "wreck the town"? Isn't the purpose to beat mafia?
QuoteI'd assume standard Follow The Cop can and will wreck the town.Why would we want to "wreck the town"? Isn't the purpose to beat mafia?
Based on the fun I had and my decent performance in Root's mafia (59) which was restricted to the forum thread only, and my relatively poor-er performance in other mafias I did here where I chatted and PM'd about the game, I am taking a vow this game to communicate only in the thread about the game.
If you chat PM me I will stay neutral and give responses pointing to this disclaimer. Feel free to post here if you have convincing arguments as to why I would benefit from talking outside this thread (in the past I always ended up in-bed with mafia and hurting town - just read some of my mafias prior to 59).
This is going to go badly.How is it stupid? Don't you think it's a little hard to judge this for now? We don't even know what kind of power roles there are.
This mafia is stupid and Linkcat is stupid.
*snip*I can understand the feeling of somehow missing out-of-thread information in the previous mafia, but I am wondering about the statement that you would not communicate in a host-provided pad as mafia. Wouldn't that make it even harder to plan things out?
This is going to go badly.How is it stupid? Don't you think it's a little hard to judge this for now? We don't even know what kind of power roles there are.
This mafia is stupid and Linkcat is stupid.
*snip*I can understand the feeling of somehow missing out-of-thread information in the previous mafia, but I am wondering about the statement that you would not communicate in a host-provided pad as mafia. Wouldn't that make it even harder to plan things out?
I'll bury you.
So I'll just ask you all to lynch solaris in my absence, yes? You can do such a simple and menial task whilst I'm away not doing anything whilst waiting for arbitrary timers to go out, right?
Hmmm? What pad are you talking about Sera? I suppose a host-provided pad would be an obvious exception...I guess I misinterpreted one of your previous posts.
meowNice to meet you, Rootlaris
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I love you guys all so much, let's all be friends and not lynch or kill anyone. :)
I love you guys all so much, let's all be friends and not lynch or kill anyone. :)Let's just get this out now - no lynch angles like this always favor mafia and hinder town. But I'm tired of losing this argument every single mafia. Either my reasoning that "no-lynch is bad" is wrong, or everyone else is wrong. Either way I'm obviously not winning this argument any time soon.
I love you guys all so much, let's all be friends and not lynch or kill anyone. :)Let's just get this out now - no lynch angles like this always favor mafia and hinder town. But I'm tired of losing this argument every single mafia. Either my reasoning that "no-lynch is bad" is wrong, or everyone else is wrong. Either way I'm obviously not winning this argument any time soon.
Not no lynch [1] - rob77dp
(I am unable to decipher the vote total syntax others seem to be using...)
6 - If we assume that no person has gotten themself for a role, Any current reads on those who have been actively posting so far? (just forum member name for role, no possible actions of roles yet)
1 - what roles do you think Link may have put into this game?
2 - What do you think could be the strongest role in this game?
3 - Who do you consider your friend that is playing in this game? will you pile votes on them if they are subject to lynching?
4 - I'm in the mood for a bowl of soup, what flavour do you recommend?
5 - unknown mystery question, what is your response?
6 - If we assume that no person has gotten themself for a role, Any current reads on those who have been actively posting so far? (just forum member name for role, no possible actions of roles yet)
1 - what roles do you think Link may have put into this game?1. Based on what I got, creative roles that seem somewhat useful.
2 - What do you think could be the strongest role in this game?
3 - Who do you consider your friend that is playing in this game? will you pile votes on them if they are subject to lynching?
4 - I'm in the mood for a bowl of soup, what flavour do you recommend?
5 - unknown mystery question, what is your response?
6 - If we assume that no person has gotten themself for a role, Any current reads on those who have been actively posting so far? (just forum member name for role, no possible actions of roles yet)
To possible cop: could you show yourself to one confirmed town soon so we could start planning?
While we're at this: I am probably a good target.To possible cop: could you show yourself to one confirmed town soon so we could start planning?
but since we don't have any confirmed yet....
.....I can be the cops friend! ;D
Lying Jester. I will bury you.While we're at this: I am probably a good target.To possible cop: could you show yourself to one confirmed town soon so we could start planning?
but since we don't have any confirmed yet....
.....I can be the cops friend! ;D
On second thought, I think Linkcat will be very pleased by your marriage proposal, math.I didn't think anyone could want to marry Linkcat.
What is the strongest role, you ask? There is nothing stronger than friendship :)
WELL, are you? :PWhat is the strongest role, you ask? There is nothing stronger than friendship :)
I quite like friends, and consider myself to be a master in the race of friendship! Does that mean I am potentially a strong player or role in this mafia? ;D
I thought Onion was being an asshat for no reason, but then I remembered he was RPing sky ;DAm I? There might be some rules to this mafia you've not considered, sweetheart. Try thinking before you post again.
ilysky
Okay, time for some serious talk before tomorrow starts.
We don't know what any of the roles are. Sure, it looked fun while we were voting for it, but now that we're actually playing it? Different story. We'd better hope there's a metric ton of informative and investigative roles because otherwise this thread is going to be dead except for the odd piece of roleplaying bullshit.
Speaking of, that's just going to detract from the game. Most of you are probably just going to post rubbish that looks meaningful in the hope of earning that single, meaningless Master of Games point rather than actually playing the game like you should be. I'm already disappointed.
Seriously, Linkcat? What were you thinking when you made this setup? Did you actually want to make an interesting mafia or were you begging for attention like you normally do? I think we all know that the novelty of playing as each other is going to wear off after a couple of days. I guess you wanted to add another dead thread to the board.
Well done - if that was your goal, you've achieved it. Everyone give Linkcat a round of applause for fulfilling the only dream he'll ever be able to. Why do you think he spends so much time on this forum? Can't be because he doesn't have anything else to live for, oh no.
Just get tomorrow started so I can lynch someone.
Oo, roast me next.Don't take previous games to the next. It's bad for everyone. Especially you. :*
Then roast Solaris so we all have a reason to lynch him.
Okay, time for some serious talk before tomorrow starts.
We don't know what any of the roles are. Sure, it looked fun while we were voting for it, but now that we're actually playing it? Different story. We'd better hope there's a metric ton of informative and investigative roles because otherwise this thread is going to be dead except for the odd piece of roleplaying bullshit.
Speaking of, that's just going to detract from the game. Most of you are probably just going to post rubbish that looks meaningful in the hope of earning that single, meaningless Master of Games point rather than actually playing the game like you should be. I'm already disappointed.
Seriously, Linkcat? What were you thinking when you made this setup? Did you actually want to make an interesting mafia or were you begging for attention like you normally do? I think we all know that the novelty of playing as each other is going to wear off after a couple of days. I guess you wanted to add another dead thread to the board.
Well done - if that was your goal, you've achieved it. Everyone give Linkcat a round of applause for fulfilling the only dream he'll ever be able to. Why do you think he spends so much time on this forum? Can't be because he doesn't have anything else to live for, oh no.
Just get tomorrow started so I can lynch someone.
1 - what roles do you think Link may have put into this game? Probably assigned usual roles to each player.
2 - What do you think could be the strongest role in this game? Strongest roles for strongest players. So, whoever link rates high, has stronger roles.
3 - Who do you consider your friend that is playing in this game? will you pile votes on them if they are subject to lynching? I'll put votes on anyone who i believe to be mafia. I play to win, after all.
4 - I'm in the mood for a bowl of soup, what flavour do you recommend? Tomato. With a lot of cream
5 - unknown mystery question, what is your response? Hi
6 - If we assume that no person has gotten themself for a role, Any current reads on those who have been actively posting so far? (just forum member name for role, no possible actions of roles yet) i dont think you can get yourself as a role (link said that in OP, iirc). And i agree with sol. Onion as sky, math as disc.
RQS for anyone interested:Why is there an RQS? To my knowledge, neither math nor disconuggets are a fan of RQSes.
1 - what roles do you think Link may have put into this game?
2 - What do you think could be the strongest role in this game?
3 - Who do you consider your friend that is playing in this game? will you pile votes on them if they are subject to lynching?
4 - I'm in the mood for a bowl of soup, what flavour do you recommend?
5 - unknown mystery question, what is your response?
6 - If we assume that no person has gotten themself for a role, Any current reads on those who have been actively posting so far? (just forum member name for role, no possible actions of roles yet)
RQS for anyone interested:1 - All the saucy ones. The abilities of those roles is a different question though. From what I heard I would guess that Linkcat, sky, Solaris, DoubleCaps and Disco are a thing. Sky getting Linkcat's role might not mean much though. It could be the best role out there, it could parallel the strength of A HELLISH SUPREME BEING, but sky might just not use it. e.e
1 - what roles do you think Link may have put into this game?
2 - What do you think could be the strongest role in this game?
3 - Who do you consider your friend that is playing in this game? will you pile votes on them if they are subject to lynching?
4 - I'm in the mood for a bowl of soup, what flavour do you recommend?
5 - unknown mystery question, what is your response?
6 - If we assume that no person has gotten themself for a role, Any current reads on those who have been actively posting so far? (just forum member name for role, no possible actions of roles yet)
RQS for anyone interested:
1 - what roles do you think Link may have put into this game?
2 - What do you think could be the strongest role in this game?
3 - Who do you consider your friend that is playing in this game? will you pile votes on them if they are subject to lynching?
4 - I'm in the mood for a bowl of soup, what flavour do you recommend?
5 - unknown mystery question, what is your response?
6 - If we assume that no person has gotten themself for a role, Any current reads on those who have been actively posting so far? (just forum member name for role, no possible actions of roles yet)
RQS for anyone interested:
1 - what roles do you think Link may have put into this game?
2 - What do you think could be the strongest role in this game?
3 - Who do you consider your friend that is playing in this game? will you pile votes on them if they are subject to lynching?
4 - I'm in the mood for a bowl of soup, what flavour do you recommend?
5 - unknown mystery question, what is your response?
6 - If we assume that no person has gotten themself for a role, Any current reads on those who have been actively posting so far? (just forum member name for role, no possible actions of roles yet)
I don't have any information about the game setup to manipulate this game. My hands are tied, sadly. Just be patient and eventually I can win us the game, friend.Why do I not believe you?
You're not even trying to give ideas, hypothetize or create random percentages. The civvy Dema would have at least guessed how many mafia would be in this setup with the given number of players. An analysis on Role Limits would also be due.
Demagog please
We all know the sort of players that Linkcat might have made power roles
Actually, I have no idea. Could you fill me in? For instance, I could see him making my role the ability to sway votes. I could also see it being a power role, not for any egotistical reasons this time, but because I haven't been given the impression that anyone is roleplaying as me. I imagine power roles would want to stay hidden, and my personal playstyle is attention-grabbing.Based on how "unique" the role I got is, it could basically be anything at this point. I doubt we could really use the roleplay as a potential clue to actual role functions. Unless if someone else disagrees.
I'm not sure what your point is, Sera. If you go read my posts the last couple games, I'm pretty sure you'll see that I don't believe in scumhunting. It's pseudoscience to me. Get lynched enough times for how you act as a civilian and I'm sure you would agree.Let's say it this way then: if someone was given the Demagog role, they wouldn't suddenly post some elaborate plan with the percentages at all. Especially with this closed setup. We can't rely for that to happen. It's just flavor.
@JCJ, Dema: there are no roles that can alter voting results. Voting modifiers were banished to oblivion before we even started.
I think Demagogliapootles is the Paranoid Mechahitler.
Hahaha, sorry. That post was breadcrumb satire. I thought it was really obvious when I posted it.WHO NEEDS RESEARCH WHEN YOU HAVE SATIRE
I cannot get who is THAT positive AND is in love with Linkcat.[/color]It's Linkcat. Linkcat is so inherently unlikable that only he could like himself. His excessive egotism is his only redeeming feature.
It's Linkcat. Linkcat is so inherently unlikable that only he could like himself. His excessive egotism is his only redeeming feature.Don't forget his chiseled face, fashionable hat, natural talent, and attractive-looking Cheetos residue on both of his chins.
The thought of playing a mafia of which the keys of the keyboard that typed it are coated with Cheetos dust makes me shudder.It's Linkcat. Linkcat is so inherently unlikable that only he could like himself. His excessive egotism is his only redeeming feature.Don't forget his chiseled face, fashionable hat, natural talent, and attractive-looking Cheetos residue on both of his chins.
@Linkcat: Can you add short phases into the game when players are highly advised to stop roleplaying? For example, every second half of each phase or each night phase.
I highly despise roleplaying, but will have to follow.
You guys seriously, seriously need to cause stirs and make up events. Even if it's just bs, you can at least be able to discern things from how others react.
@JCJ, Dema: There are no roles that can alter voting results. Voting modifiers were banished to oblivion before we even started.
@Linkcat: Can you add short phases into the game when players are highly advised to stop roleplaying? For example, every second half of each phase or each night phase.
What do you mean by requirement?Ah, my role has a weird condition.
CleanOnion is probably mafia, followed by Sera, 1011686, UTAlan, and Fippe94; gonna explain myself later and my intuition.I am very interested about the reason why I would be mafia. I was basically asking for a cop check earlier.
RootRanger isn't hosting, so thankfully what I'm doing is perfectly valid.
Hey, Sera, what does your role do?It requires me to post more than you do. It does basically nothing, though.
Hey, Sera, what does your role do?
Hey, Kuro, what's the name of your role?
Hey, Sub, what phase do you think I'll die in?
Hey, Sera, what does your role do?
Hey, Kuro, what's the name of your role?
Hey, Sub, what phase do you think I'll die in?
you know what fuk it, since youre probably mafia anyway and i'm going to die, i might as well say it.
skyironsword is mafia - both the person who has her role and she as a player.
i'm CR. So much for breadcrumbing my initials in my previous post, but that being said, I know that I'm not lying by stating that my role -literally- does nothing. I would quote my PM but obviously I cant do that because rules, although TECHNICALLY it doesnt matter if i die, and mafia will probably get rekt if I died anyway, so yeah. There's that. If I type in nothing, maybe people will understand, but modkills are bad. At least RR isn't hosting
Sera, I'm not explaining myself to you 'cause you're not trustworthy after what you pulled 4 mafias ago. Just sayin'.
EBWOP:
do I need to say that Kuro's been checking this thread at least 4 times today without posting anythingAGAIN? Lynch lynch lynch
WAIT A MINUTE I THINK I HAVE SOMETHING
With this roleplaying business, what if some of the roles have requirements about guessing who the roleplay is? It's a stretch but it might be something
CleanOnion is probably mafia, followed by Sera, 1011686, UTAlan, and Fippe94; gonna explain myself later and my intuition.[OOC]None of what you said relieves you from being a mafia. And more than half of it makes no sense. To top it off, you frame sky above everyone else, but she's not even on this list. Even more reason for me to think that you are just making this up now and you try to get some time by "explaining your intuition later" just because you didn't have enough time to forge a fake backstory yet.[/OOC]
RootRanger isn't hosting, so thankfully what I'm doing is perfectly valid.Someone should save kuro from a nightkills. He is my friend and I don't want to see him lynched. (Even if he isn't a cat.)[OOC]Let's lynch Kuro tomorrow and if he flips mafia, lynch math next.[/OOC]I don't understand why you would make a role that does nothing. But I'm sure it's part of Linkcat's brilliant master plan. He's never, ever failed to make gameplay interesting. Not even once. There was no occasion where Linkcat did something that was not fun. I assure you.[OOC]One more reason to think that Kuro is lying.[/OOC]
random scumhunting here we go. ;)
RQS for anyone interested:
1 - what roles do you think Link may have put into this game?
2 - What do you think could be the strongest role in this game?
3 - Who do you consider your friend that is playing in this game? will you pile votes on them if they are subject to lynching?
4 - I'm in the mood for a bowl of soup, what flavour do you recommend?
5 - unknown mystery question, what is your response?
6 - If we assume that no person has gotten themself for a role, Any current reads on those who have been actively posting so far? (just forum member name for role, no possible actions of roles yet)
not sure how to do this, but I felt like asking one :P
Also, even if I AM lynched tomorrow, it won't do the civies any good, because the least the real players can do is ignore me and actually go for more viable targets. mafia gets screwed if they target me, townies lose time by lynching me. Huh, who would have thought that my passive ability was far more powerful than expected?Except that if you are the Paranoid Mechahitler, it's worth lynching you regardless of your role. Unless it's WIFOM and you're just pretending to have a bad role to avoid the nightkill in which case you have a good role. But you also said that your role is passive and passive roles can't be investigative or protective, so we're back to Step 1. ?_?
Sub, regardless of whether or not I'm mafia, killing me is literally the dumbest thing you can do.Am I the only one who's noticing these? Regardless whether you are mafia or not.
You still haven't answered my question.[OOC]I gave an answer that couldn't get any more legit than that. >_> Bother Sera and Kuro for now; they didn't answer your questions either.[/OOC]
[OOC]I gave an answer that couldn't get any more legit than that. >_> Bother Sera and Kuro for now; they didn't answer your questions either.[/OOC]Who said anything about being legit? Take a guess.
we should honor demagog's legacy by using dodgy pseudoscience to make wild guesses at who the mafia is based on meaningless trivialities in their posts
even better - we can use incorrect math and wildly exaggerated probabilities to honor his role's legacy
since 20% of the players are mafia and I'm 100% civ, that means submachine is 70% mafia, and anyone who disagrees with me is too stupid to realize that 100% + 20% divided by 2 is 70%
god I hate playing with idiots
since 20% of the players are mafia and I'm 100% civ, that means submachine is 70% mafia, and anyone who disagrees with me is too stupid to realize that 100% + 20% divided by 2 is 70%
god I hate playing with idiots
Apparently Jester is a thing in this setup. I'm having a hard time to tell if it suits my role or not.
On a sidenote, I'm kinda.... I don't know. Wary of people claiming early. Is that a good thing at this point? Remember we're feeding everyone, including the mafia, this information.
-snip-
Whilst it's highly dependant on circumstance, information benefits the town more than mafia. Obviously, you shouldn't claim in the open if you're an investigative role, but if your role is otherwise completely useless, like paranoiac/dead nullified jester, sure, go for it. The more information the town has, the faster it can get to lynching mafia. The main benefit of info is the reaction to info, which allows us to see what we're all doing.
-snip-
I'm not sure if I've mentioned this yet, but Sera is still definitely not mafia.Linkcat's flabby, acne-ridden stomach makes me sick to the point that I'm certain that Sera is mafia.
If you haven't been convinced yet, just take a gander at Linkcat's chiseled abs.
No lynch is bad lynch? Alright.
rob77dp [1] - CleanOnion
That's what you get for trying to persuade us not to give information.
Signups extended one day due to RL complications.
Link is having trouble coming up with roles :P
Maybe he realised we can't all be Linkcat.
Silly JCJ -- we know that Lc knows there will never be another Linkcat. :D
Based on the fun I had and my decent performance in Root's mafia (59) which was restricted to the forum thread only, and my relatively poor-er performance in other mafias I did here where I chatted and PM'd about the game, I am taking a vow this game to communicate only in the thread about the game.
If you chat PM me I will stay neutral and give responses pointing to this disclaimer. Feel free to post here if you have convincing arguments as to why I would benefit from talking outside this thread (in the past I always ended up in-bed with mafia and hurting town - just read some of my mafias prior to 59).
A Night 0 where we can talk?
I've been looking forward to this mafia game like I would a Root-fia.
*quote above was modified some for clarity of intent and ease of reading*
*snip*I can understand the feeling of somehow missing out-of-thread information in the previous mafia, but I am wondering about the statement that you would not communicate in a host-provided pad as mafia. Wouldn't that make it even harder to plan things out?
Hmmm? What pad are you talking about Sera? I suppose a host-provided pad would be an obvious exception...
Anyway, I think it bears stating outright here that town roles need to be used often and wisely. Breadcrumbs are something else I recommend we all consider wherever you see a need/advantage in it.
I love you guys all so much, let's all be friends and not lynch or kill anyone. :)Let's just get this out now - no lynch angles like this always favor mafia and hinder town. But I'm tired of losing this argument every single mafia. Either my reasoning that "no-lynch is bad" is wrong, or everyone else is wrong. Either way I'm obviously not winning this argument any time soon.
Not no lynch [1] - rob77dp
(I am unable to decipher the vote total syntax others seem to be using...)
Hey, Sera, what does your role do?
Hey, Kuro, what's the name of your role?
Hey, Sub, what phase do you think I'll die in?
you know what fuk it, since youre probably mafia anyway and i'm going to die, i might as well say it.
skyironsword is mafia - both the person who has her role and she as a player.
i'm CR. So much for breadcrumbing my initials in my previous post, but that being said, I know that I'm not lying by stating that my role -literally- does nothing. I would quote my PM but obviously I cant do that because rules, although TECHNICALLY it doesnt matter if i die, and mafia will probably get rekt if I died anyway, so yeah. There's that. If I type in nothing, maybe people will understand, but modkills are bad. At least RR isn't hosting
Sera, I'm not explaining myself to you 'cause you're not trustworthy after what you pulled 4 mafias ago. Just sayin'.
I have cramps in my neck from straining to figure out who else this would be roleplaying... if not CR.
I suppose it makes sense in a circular reasoning sort of way to claim your role as that player would likely do it themselves? Much WIFOM. Such CR. Very Kuro.
(?above-is-OOC-maybe-kind-of?)
[RQS response coming soon too - fun on N0 weeee!]
{reads list would be mostly junk from me at this point...]
*let's, um, just pretend my previous post didn't happen - it was only rule-requirements anyways right? :)random scumhunting here we go. ;)
RQS for anyone interested:
1 - what roles do you think Link may have put into this game?
2 - What do you think could be the strongest role in this game?
3 - Who do you consider your friend that is playing in this game? will you pile votes on them if they are subject to lynching?
4 - I'm in the mood for a bowl of soup, what flavour do you recommend?
5 - unknown mystery question, what is your response?
6 - If we assume that no person has gotten themself for a role, Any current reads on those who have been actively posting so far? (just forum member name for role, no possible actions of roles yet)
not sure how to do this, but I felt like asking one :P
1. I think he would try to balance all the roles as much as possible and include neat or clever ways of reflecting a player's history/tendencies as mafia roles.
2. could be? well, I'm not sure what all roles are in this mafia but Lc has stated that none modify voting totals/voting power outright, so I guess it has to be something not related to that... IF a Linkcat role is in the game then I suspect it might the strongest.
3. there are no friends on N0 of a closed mafia game. I will vote in a manner that I believe most benefits town.
4. new england clam chowder (the red if you were wondering "is that the red or the white?") is the flavor of soup I recommend.
5. 42
6. by rule nobody can have themselves as a role. would you rephrase or adjust #6 based on this being the case?
you can't vote asspithel :PNo lynch is bad lynch? Alright.
rob77dp [1] - CleanOnion
That's what you get for trying to persuade us not to give information.
Voting is one of the most powerful ways to give the town info.
How the hell is telling you to give information persuasion to not give information?
rob77dp [1] - Clean0nion
Clean0nion [1] - Espithel
And in case it's not that you're referring to:Signups extended one day due to RL complications.
Link is having trouble coming up with roles :P
Maybe he realised we can't all be Linkcat.
Silly JCJ -- we know that Lc knows there will never be another Linkcat. :DBased on the fun I had and my decent performance in Root's mafia (59) which was restricted to the forum thread only, and my relatively poor-er performance in other mafias I did here where I chatted and PM'd about the game, I am taking a vow this game to communicate only in the thread about the game.
If you chat PM me I will stay neutral and give responses pointing to this disclaimer. Feel free to post here if you have convincing arguments as to why I would benefit from talking outside this thread (in the past I always ended up in-bed with mafia and hurting town - just read some of my mafias prior to 59).
A Night 0 where we can talk?
I've been looking forward to this mafia game like I would a Root-fia.
*quote above was modified some for clarity of intent and ease of reading**snip*I can understand the feeling of somehow missing out-of-thread information in the previous mafia, but I am wondering about the statement that you would not communicate in a host-provided pad as mafia. Wouldn't that make it even harder to plan things out?
Hmmm? What pad are you talking about Sera? I suppose a host-provided pad would be an obvious exception...
Anyway, I think it bears stating outright here that town roles need to be used often and wisely. Breadcrumbs are something else I recommend we all consider wherever you see a need/advantage in it.I love you guys all so much, let's all be friends and not lynch or kill anyone. :)Let's just get this out now - no lynch angles like this always favor mafia and hinder town. But I'm tired of losing this argument every single mafia. Either my reasoning that "no-lynch is bad" is wrong, or everyone else is wrong. Either way I'm obviously not winning this argument any time soon.
Not no lynch [1] - rob77dp
(I am unable to decipher the vote total syntax others seem to be using...)Hey, Sera, what does your role do?
Hey, Kuro, what's the name of your role?
Hey, Sub, what phase do you think I'll die in?
you know what fuk it, since youre probably mafia anyway and i'm going to die, i might as well say it.
skyironsword is mafia - both the person who has her role and she as a player.
i'm CR. So much for breadcrumbing my initials in my previous post, but that being said, I know that I'm not lying by stating that my role -literally- does nothing. I would quote my PM but obviously I cant do that because rules, although TECHNICALLY it doesnt matter if i die, and mafia will probably get rekt if I died anyway, so yeah. There's that. If I type in nothing, maybe people will understand, but modkills are bad. At least RR isn't hosting
Sera, I'm not explaining myself to you 'cause you're not trustworthy after what you pulled 4 mafias ago. Just sayin'.
I have cramps in my neck from straining to figure out who else this would be roleplaying... if not CR.
I suppose it makes sense in a circular reasoning sort of way to claim your role as that player would likely do it themselves? Much WIFOM. Such CR. Very Kuro.
(?above-is-OOC-maybe-kind-of?)
[RQS response coming soon too - fun on N0 weeee!]
{reads list would be mostly junk from me at this point...]*let's, um, just pretend my previous post didn't happen - it was only rule-requirements anyways right? :)random scumhunting here we go. ;)
RQS for anyone interested:
1 - what roles do you think Link may have put into this game?
2 - What do you think could be the strongest role in this game?
3 - Who do you consider your friend that is playing in this game? will you pile votes on them if they are subject to lynching?
4 - I'm in the mood for a bowl of soup, what flavour do you recommend?
5 - unknown mystery question, what is your response?
6 - If we assume that no person has gotten themself for a role, Any current reads on those who have been actively posting so far? (just forum member name for role, no possible actions of roles yet)
not sure how to do this, but I felt like asking one :P
1. I think he would try to balance all the roles as much as possible and include neat or clever ways of reflecting a player's history/tendencies as mafia roles.
2. could be? well, I'm not sure what all roles are in this mafia but Lc has stated that none modify voting totals/voting power outright, so I guess it has to be something not related to that... IF a Linkcat role is in the game then I suspect it might the strongest.
3. there are no friends on N0 of a closed mafia game. I will vote in a manner that I believe most benefits town.
4. new england clam chowder (the red if you were wondering "is that the red or the white?") is the flavor of soup I recommend.
5. 42
6. by rule nobody can have themselves as a role. would you rephrase or adjust #6 based on this being the case?
The above is every single post made by rob that conducts original information thus far, except the one above.
Pick out where he attempted to persuade us not to give information.
Caution: if all or too many non-investigative/protective/high-power roles claim then I see it making mafia's job easier in regard to sniping power roles out of the civilian player pool with NK's. That is, if we are letters of the alphabet then mafia knowing that A through S are open claimed non-investigative roles allows NK to snipe from the pool of T through Z instead of the lower-odds pool of A through Z.
No lynch is bad lynch? Alright.
rob77dp [1] - CleanOnion
That's what you get for trying to persuade us not to give information.I'm not sure if I've mentioned this yet, but Sera is still definitely not mafia.Linkcat's flabby, acne-ridden stomach makes me sick to the point that I'm certain that Sera is mafia.
If you haven't been convinced yet, just take a gander at Linkcat's chiseled abs.
Safely sharing information definitely benefits town. Dangerously sharing information could benefit town in short term in exchange for risk of losing long-term investigation information.FTFM (Fixed That For Me) *this is a revised quote to help CleO get up to speed with the intent of my prior statements despite my lack of initial clarity*
On an unrelated note, I feel like sky has to lie about everything. It would explain her inexplicable love for the wholly unlikable Linkcat. As such, Sera could be mafia. sky has been rather keen to push the information onto us.While that does make some sense, that means she would have confirmed me as mafia with investigative ability from night 0, which would not make sense.
Sera [2] - UTAlan, CleanOnion
UTAlan [1] - Sera
10:38:30 PM] ‹Solaris› honestly the roleplay is only serving to annoy me so farClaiming there is no information while this place reeks of potential ENIGMATIC DESPAIRs (Praise the sun):
[10:38:53 PM] ‹Solaris› because it makes it ridiculously hard to scumhunt
[10:39:04 PM] ‹Solaris› and in a closed set up, you don't know anything about the other roles
[10:39:08 PM] ‹Solaris› so you're trapped on your own little
[10:39:11 PM] ‹Solaris› island
[10:39:14 PM] ‹Solaris› with no information
w: Kuroaitou(0 posts), Demagog, RootRanger, math, sky
Most of the others are in Null and I would be mad to tell who I think are more likely to be town, so ...
Okay fine, I see your point ._.So to everyone: How off is your ability compared to what you'd think the role you're playing should have?Apparently Jester is a thing in this setup. I'm having a hard time to tell if it suits my role or not.
I do actually have information.
But you don't deserve it.
No lynch is bad lynch? Alright.
rob77dp [1] - CleanOnion
That's what you get for trying to persuade us not to give information.
I do actually have information.
But you don't deserve it.
Submachine [1] - rob77dp
UTAlan [1] - Sera
1011686 [1] - UTAlan
-snip-
So far, I have CleO near the top of my "Best Roleplaying" list (as sky?).
-snip-
I'm roleplaying a ninja, so you either bear with my low activity, or I run away from the town while you guys devote all your resources to somehow scumread me and then lynch me.Hi iancu, I'm dad.
we should honor demagog's legacy by using dodgy pseudoscience to make wild guesses at who the mafia is based on meaningless trivialities in their postsI know, right
even better - we can use incorrect math and wildly exaggerated probabilities to honor his role's legacy
since 20% of the players are mafia and I'm 100% civ, that means submachine is 70% mafia, and anyone who disagrees with me is too stupid to realize that 100% + 20% divided by 2 is 70%
god I hate playing with idiots
we should honor demagog's legacy by using dodgy pseudoscience to make wild guesses at who the mafia is based on meaningless trivialities in their postsI know, right
even better - we can use incorrect math and wildly exaggerated probabilities to honor his role's legacy
since 20% of the players are mafia and I'm 100% civ, that means submachine is 70% mafia, and anyone who disagrees with me is too stupid to realize that 100% + 20% divided by 2 is 70%
god I hate playing with idiots
FTFY
I do actually have information.
But you don't deserve it.No lynch is bad lynch? Alright.
rob77dp [1] - CleanOnion
That's what you get for trying to persuade us not to give information.
Stahp
I still hold the opinion that it was probably the Dm role rather than Solaris role that has Rekt. And we have confirmed that Solaris is Dm, so we might want to take a look at him too. What does your role do, Solaris?
I will go with Solaris because he is the one that is confirmed, rather than Root who might not actually be Solaris.I still hold the opinion that it was probably the Dm role rather than Solaris role that has Rekt. And we have confirmed that Solaris is Dm, so we might want to take a look at him too. What does your role do, Solaris?
Actually, both Sol and Dm love to use rekt. The question is which of them (Sol or Root) would have more reasons to target Espithel in N0?
OOC Regardless of roleplay, I am a relatively active poster anyway.It bodies fools. Like you, if you don't get your vote off me. :P
About Root roleplaying as Solaris: it doesn't seem likely based on the way that he posts, but I still hold the opinion that it was probably the Dm role rather than Solaris role that has Rekt. And we have confirmed that Solaris is Dm, so we might want to take a look at him too. What does your role do, Solaris?
@fabian: They don't seem so contradictory, especially with the roleplay.
Submachine [1] - rob77dp
1011686 [1] - UTAlan
CleanOnion[1] - fabian771
Solaris [1] - Sera
Submachine [1] - rob77dpPerhaps you're right.
1011686 [2] - UTAlan, CleanOnion
CleanOnion [2] - fabian771, mathman101
Solaris [1] - Sera
Maybe it is just me, but Onion has given me a fishy feeling from the start. Something about his posts don't add up, but I can't put my finger on it.
I'm voting with my gut on Onion even though I know it creates a tie.
Submachine [1] - rob77dpPerhaps you're right.
1011686 [2] - UTAlan, CleanOnion
CleanOnion [2] - fabian771, mathman101
Solaris [1] - Sera
Maybe it is just me, but Onion has given me a fishy feeling from the start. Something about his posts don't add up, but I can't put my finger on it.
I'm voting with my gut on Onion even though I know it creates a tie.
Either way, I'll never let you in on my secret. Did you read my last post thoroughly?
Funny that you mention it, because rumors tell that it's R00dRanger who got Sol's role. You might question him about why he targeted you if anyone cares about motives.classic scrubmachine immediately jumps to wrong conclusions holy hell I swear he only ever wins mafia because people get bored of reading his posts and drop out
restrictionsTherefore I assume you'd love it if I were to make a little post in between yours? Well tough, it's not happening. You'll just have to sit in silence for multiple minutes before someone else comes along with something meaningful to say.
I wonder if I can use my role on myself and afkThis just makes me think that you are Dm and you have Rekt, and you certainly don't have a good reason to hit Espithel with it.
You guys can also ask me questions about the setup.If you offer it that way [OOC]
- Are all roles associated with a player name?
- Are there any vanilla roles?
- Can we know how many mafia are in the game?
- Lorewise, what should we call the mafia? Should they be mafia, renitents, trolls, etc or is it up to our own judgement?
- Can there be roles with more than 2 abilities?
- If a mafia would be targeted with Bonus Task[ER], would the nightkill potential count as an ability too or does it not count as an ability? Also, does it block the ability to send in Nightkills?
- If someone with 2+ abilities is blocked by Bonus Task, do both roles need to be mentioned to regain them, or can I just name one if we only care about that one temporarily?
Submachine [2] - rob77dp, RootRanger
1011686 [2] - UTAlan, CleanOnion
CleanOnion [3] - fabian771, mathman101, 1011686
Solaris [1] - Sera
Sera [1] - skyironsword
So anyway, 1011686, I already figured out your role (or at least what the name stands for), so yeah, that's why I'm voting on you. Some roles that don't die first are usually the most suspicious anyway.
He's roleplaying an idiot.
Actually, both Sol and Dm love to use rekt. The question is which of them (Sol or Root) would have more reasons to target Espithel in N0?(https://snag.gy/b3imNJ.jpg)
So is that a vote, a breadcrumb, or a whole loaf of bread?yes
@Kuro, removing restrictions? Is that an ability of yours? I can hardly figure out what the sentence means.
It makes me harder to read. You'll be fine as long as you don't get lynched.
Oops
I don't get many opportunities to post, and I haven't seen much need to yet. I have my own opinions but nothing concrete, and i don't want to share them until im more certain.
I'd love some justification, SolarisI'd love a stable mental status, but we can't get everything we want!
Very well.I'd love some justification, SolarisI'd love a stable mental status, but we can't get everything we want!
Very well.I'd love some justification, SolarisI'd love a stable mental status, but we can't get everything we want!
1011686 [2] - UTAlan, Kuroaitou
CleanOnion [4] - fabian771, mathman101, 1011686, Solaris
Solaris [4] - Sera, JonathanCrazyJ, andretimpa, CleanOnion
Espithachine [2] - rob77dp, RootRanger
RedPowerRanger [1] - Espithachine
Sera [1] - skyironsword
But don't use people roleplaying as an excuse for not scumreading. Scumreading is still possible, it's just a weeny bit different.
1011686 (2) - UTAlan, Kuroaitou
CleanOnion (5) - fabian771, mathman101, 1011686, Solaris, Calindu
Solaris (4) - Sera, JonathanCrazyJ, andretimpa, CleanOnion
Submachine (4) - rob77dp, RootRanger, Fippe94, killsdazombies
Rootranger (1) - Submachine
Sera (1) - skyironsword
I don't feel like receiving 25 PM's everyday
You can PM if you post the PM in the thread, as you just said. Double spam is worse than normal spam
[OOC]None of that was about the current mafia. It was about roleplaying in general.[/OOC]
This is literally the first game of online mafia i have ever played. I dont know what i'm doing.I don't get many opportunities to post, and I haven't seen much need to yet. I have my own opinions but nothing concrete, and i don't want to share them until im more certain.
The problem with this is that if everyone took this stance, nobody would talk and mafia would silently win (esp in a closed setup). Are these suspicions based on your ability, or based on the scum-reading? If the latter, please share and just put a disclaimer on it. If the former, then for sure wait until you are more certain, but post *something*. If you're town, the more you talk the better read we can get on you and (hopefully) get a feel for your innocence. If you aren't posting at all, it makes you look like mafia.
tldr; post more or I'm gonna make sure we all stab you to death during a day phase.
This is literally the first game of online mafia i have ever played. I dont know what i'm doing.You'll be fine as long as you keep posting what you think.
No.
Submachine (4) - rob77dp, RootRanger, Fippe94, killsdazombies
1011686 (2) - UTAlan, Kuroaitou
CleanOnion (5) - fabian771, mathman101, 1011686, Solaris, Calindu
Solaris (4) - Sera, JonathanCrazyJ, andretimpa, CleanOnion
Sera (1) - skyironsword
Which is very, very out of the norm for Sub, who usually does EVERYTHING HE POSSIBLY CAN to talk and be active untileveryone hates mafia gamestown win
Sub can't be arsed to re-place his vote
Submachine (4) - rob77dp, RootRanger, Fippe94, killsdazombiesyou read very mafia from this
1011686 (3) - UTAlan, Kuroaitou,Godisnowonline
CleanOnion (5) - fabian771, mathman101, 1011686, Solaris, Calindu
Solaris (4) - Sera, JonathanCrazyJ, andretimpa, CleanOnion
JonathanCrazyJ (1) - skyironsword
following Kuro-cket because im so lost right now. Anyone able to give a tl:dr?
Submachine (4) - rob77dp, RootRanger, Fippe94, killsdazombies
1011686 (3) - UTAlan, Kuroaitou,Godisnowonline
CleanOnion (5) - fabian771, mathman101, 1011686, Solaris, Calindu
Solaris (4) - Sera, JonathanCrazyJ, andretimpa, CleanOnion
JonathanCrazyJ (1) - skyironsword
following Kuro-cket because im so lost right now. Anyone able to give a tl:dr?
Solaris - Probably the one who nerf-killed Espithel, gave no defense nor reasonHe was being Espithel and I got asshurt
He was being Espithel and I got asshurt
Solaris - Probably the one who nerf-killed Espithel, gave no defense nor a valid* reason
I'm not even kidding. He was bringing past mafias into this game as a reason to try and lynch me, I got pissed, and I hammered him.He was being Espithel and I got asshurt
Okay, then.Solaris - Probably the one who nerf-killed Espithel, gave no defense nor a valid* reason
I remember a time when Elements mafia players would base their voting decisions entirely on actions within the actual mafia game being played...sometimes I feel like you're roleplaying me
hahahahaha jk that nevar happened
I'm not even kidding. He was bringing past mafias into this game as a reason to try and lynch me, I got pissed, and I hammered him.I have missed that part, but I am glad that I able to get reasoning out of you.
Reading people is way more fun when they're pretending to be other people.OOC I'm sure it is only making me more annoying.
It makes Linkcat bearable. He's too attractive when he's being himself.
Submachine (4) - rob77dp, RootRanger, Fippe94, killsdazombies
1011686 (3) - UTAlan, Kuroaitou,Godisnowonline
CleanOnion (5) - fabian771, mathman101, 1011686, Solaris, Calindu
Solaris (4) - Sera, JonathanCrazyJ, andretimpa, CleanOnion
JonathanCrazyJ (1) - skyironsword
following Kuro-cket because im so lost right now. Anyone able to give a tl:dr?
Sub - Suspicious because acting out of character, looking like he's helping but did not care to place an actual vote
1011 - Because of low activity
CO - Because of being too hard to read (roleplay)
Solaris - Probably the one who nerf-killed Espithel, gave no defense nor reason
JCJ - Because sky likes linkcat more
I'm totally not trying to sway your vote, I'm just giving my understandably biased yet superior opinion.
I'm not even kidding. He was bringing past mafias into this game as a reason to try and lynch me, I got pissed, and I hammered him.He was being Espithel and I got asshurt
Okay, then.Solaris - Probably the one who nerf-killed Espithel, gave no defense nor a valid* reason
I'm voting against lynching 1011. It's pointless, really. I think it's highly likely to have scum in the bunch voting on him.
we can't all be professional shitposters I'm only in the minor leagues but don't make that reason to lynch meI remember a time when Elements mafia players would base their voting decisions entirely on actions within the actual mafia game being played...sometimes I feel like you're roleplaying me
hahahahaha jk that nevar happened
then you make typos that are somewhat coherent. if I typo, it's a trainwreck
So is that a vote, a breadcrumb, or a whole loaf of bread?
@Kuro, removing restrictions? Is that an ability of yours? I can hardly figure out what the sentence means.
Kuro > UTA > ginoIf you want to work together, call me Crockuro, Sera. Otherwise, you're shooting yourself in the foot (or maybe you're scum! D:<).
I will try to elaborate later.
By the way, Sera is still not mafia.Thanks for the affirmation?
Okay, let's set this in stone: I will not go down to shitposting. I don't even care if I am required to post.
Submachine (4) - rob77dp, RootRanger, Fippe94, killsdazombies
1011686 (2) - UTAlan, Kuroaitou
CleanOnion (6) - fabian771, mathman101, 1011686, Solaris, Calindu, Godisnowonline
Solaris (4) - JonathanCrazyJ, andretimpa, CleanOnion, skyironsword
skyironsword (1) - Sera
By the way, can we lynch Submachine instead of CO? I like CO more.
1U, prevents target player from voting/using the rest of their ability for the rest of the game. I'm just a vanilla civ now.I'm not even kidding. He was bringing past mafias into this game as a reason to try and lynch me, I got pissed, and I hammered him.I have missed that part, but I am glad that I able to get reasoning out of you.
Now, are you be willing to state what exactly your ability does? We'd have more information, and you get to use it again.
This looks like a fair deal to me.Reading people is way more fun when they're pretending to be other people.OOC I'm sure it is only making me more annoying.
It makes Linkcat bearable. He's too attractive when he's being himself.
Understandable. I will not vote for Root with you though. Vote with all your heart! Let your voice be heard! Let me go back to my phone games for now. /OOCSub - Suspicious because acting out of character, looking like he's helping but did not care to place an actual voteI did place a vote, it was just removed by THE SUPREME HOST (Praise the sun). If the host removes your serious vote, and that vote didn't have any support anyway, you would feel the same way. e.e
Care to vote Root with me?
It will be much more fun to play this game without me, aye? Surely you would fare much well without your most active conversation catalyst and your (probably) only protective role.
@rob: rob please. I am not any kind of protective role. My role suggests that I can only protect YOU (at the expense of my life), and I can protect noone else. In light of this revelation, it would do you really good if you removed your vote from me. >_>
Now about those who don't repeat this phrase: If someone says "This idea is stupid, durr hurr." "Don't follow him." "Sub, shut up", then it simply counts as not claiming Jester, so they are either Jesters or Mafia. It can't get any more simple than that.DC is clearly Jester. Looks like a lynching is in order.
I am a Jester. My win condition is to get lynched.
You are town unless I have told you that you are not town.
There are no roles that can change the faction of a player.
There is only one role that can change the role of a player, and it has limited use.
Now about those who don't repeat this phrase: If someone says "This idea is stupid, durr hurr." "Don't follow him." "Sub, shut up", then it simply counts as not claiming Jester, so they are either Jesters or Mafia. It can't get any more simple than that.DC is clearly Jester. Looks like a lynching is in order.
Just go to his profile.No, I said I was too lazy. But fine. I'll do it. (Also, well played with the anti-quote post) *checks profile*
honestly I'm wondering if that was in character help meWho are you? Let's trade names.
please. I'M sure nobody will aDMit their role name to you, this early in the game.honestly I'm wondering if that was in character help meWho are you? Let's trade names.
honestly I'm wondering if that was in character help meWho are you? Let's trade names.
Submachine is roleplaying Espithel. That does not sound very Espithel-like.You still didn't admit your ability.
please. I'M sure nobody will aDMit their role name to you, this early in the game.
Whoops, don't mind me. I missed it in a sea of bread.it's fine, just don't tunnel so hard on me. I know what wet dog smells like.
-old vote snip-
It will be much more fun to play this game without me, aye? Surely you would fare much well without your most active conversation catalyst and your (probably) only protective role.
@rob: rob please. I am not any kind of protective role. My role suggests that I can only protect YOU (at the expense of my life), and I can protect noone else. In light of this revelation, it would do you really good if you removed your vote from me. >_>
and no, I won't vote CleanOnion to save myself, because I'm pretty sure that he's a Jester. Jesters usually have negative effects on those who successfully lynch them. I won't lynch Sol, because I'm not even scumreading him right now and sky probably has our only investigative role.
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There are too much people sitting comfortably under the radar, poking at easy votes, using weak excuses to get rid of me.
Fippe, rob and JCJ are both guilty of this. Voting JCJ, because he's pushing suspicion unusually strongly on me while he sips tea without bothering to vote on me.
Also if you don't lynch Root after the day I die, you all deserve to burn in the boundless inferno. You might as well just vote Clean and get cursed by her jesting charisma.
OOC 2 mafias ago, Espithel saved rob from a nightkill by sacrificing himself. My role is a homage to that occasion. So yeah, I do have a protective role, it's just not really useful, because a civvy will die either way.It will be much more fun to play this game without me, aye? Surely you would fare much well without your most active conversation catalyst and your (probably) only protective role.
@rob: rob please. I am not any kind of protective role. My role suggests that I can only protect YOU (at the expense of my life), and I can protect noone else. In light of this revelation, it would do you really good if you removed your vote from me. >_>
This is confusing, clarify please? I wasn't too around/active when the train ran all over you, but are you claiming some sort of protective role?
I'm inclined to believe that Link did not put many 3rd party roles (partially for balance sakes, but also to ensure town plays with a "lynch the baddies" strategy and nothing else would sway that). If Espithel, effectively ded at this point is indeed a Jester, I'm willing to take the gander that we can risk the CO lynch without too detrimental of an effect, of course, his roleplay aside.
Submachine: Why Root though?
Root is intentionally not helping and I doubt that he's telling the truth about his role restriction. Though he could be a Jester too, now that I think about it...
NEW PLAN! (yes, this definitely helps town's chances)
I know from Espithel that if Jesters say that they are Jesters, they get modkilled (let's assume that he told the truth). Jesters are third party if I put the puzzle pieces together, so they are neither town nor mafia. @Espithel: You can confirm now, right? Because of this, it's worthless to lynch Jesters at all, so avoiding them would be useful.
How to avoid them, it's simple. Everyone say: "I am a Jester. My win condition is to get lynched." Real Jesters are not allowed to say this, so if there is anyone who doesn't say this, they are either Jesters or Mafia. It's a win-win situation either way, because we get useful information and if someone suspicious doesn't claim and they get lynched, then we either hit a mafia or help a Jester win. We can't go wrong with this.
Now about those who don't repeat this phrase: If someone says "This idea is stupid, durr hurr." "Don't follow him." "Sub, shut up", then it simply counts as not claiming Jester, so they are either Jesters or Mafia. It can't get any more simple than that.
has it occurred to anyone that the last 30 pages of discussion have been essentially meaningless just wondering
has it occurred to anyone that the last 30 pages of discussion have been essentially meaningless just wondering
Why can't you shitpost in a meaningful way?
Then shitpost whilst secretly being meaningful e.e
It's not haaaarrrd
[OOC]Lynch Hyroen tomorrow.
Sorry <3. [/OOC]
also if I die tonight it will be super hilarious because scrubbers will realize I wasnt the one who targeted Espithel
Reminder: Sera's town, I can't be healed, I shouldn't be roleblocked, Linkcat is really attractive.I dispute one of these. Guess which. Sera is obviously mafia.
oh, in which case it's already super hilariousalso if I die tonight it will be super hilarious because scrubbers will realize I wasnt the one who targeted Espithel
Solaris alreadyconfessedadmitted to doing that.
Okay Root, at least when I'm dead, respect my decisions and playing style. I already reported your unnecessary flaming. If you can't say anything good, just shut up.Cadavers don't have the privilege of preaching. Not that anyone was listening to you anyway.
[OOC]Lynch Hyroen tomorrow.
Sorry <3. [/OOC]
I think at this point it would be helpful if we had a list of who has which role:I'm pretty sure RootRanger is Solaris instead of Demagog.
Solaris - Dm
Kuroitaou - CrockettRockett
CleanOnion - Skyironsword
Skyironsword - Linkcat
Submachine - Espithel
Rootranger - Demagogue
I forgot any others.
Also, I think i have now completely failed at roleplaying, so im just going to stop.
Should have trusted me guys, anyone using [] instead of () for vote counts is hiding something.
Farewell, my friends. I will die with the glorious visage of Linkcat staring handsomely into my own eyes.good
UTAlan stop stabbing me kthx
(http://i.imgur.com/IPPzBVm.png)
contemplating lynchUTAlan stop stabbing me kthx
Stabby stab. Just hope I don't go for the third stab. (Fwiw, you were a random target. I might as well give myself the potential to do something with it.)
Also, I'm out of town starting at 5am tomorrow (it's almost 8pm here now) and won't be back until late Monday. So...plz don't lynch or NK me while I'm gone, kthxbye
My ability was blocked last night.
Voting with no information is like making a wild vote. I need info.
*scrolls though mafia intensely*
Do people still get MK for inactivity if so then shouldn't we lynch someone else
Do people still get MK for inactivity if so then shouldn't we lynch someone elseYes, they do. I've already been warned about it.
Do people still get MK for inactivity if so then shouldn't we lynch someone elseYes, they do. I've already been warned about it.
I've been trying to analyze what people post because I've basically been dead in the Mafia scene and haven't played in quite a while. So naturally, I wouldn't want to point out fingers without having some rationale.
If we know that Sera is town, I'd be inclined to lynch whoever has voted to lynch her instead. With no information, I'm not sure if less activity than others is the best criteria with which to lynch.
Either way, what JCJ points out makes perfect sense and I'd argue that Kuro has played enough Mafias to know this.
Hm.
Edit: accidentally credited DC instead of JCJ.
Edit: accidentally credited DC instead of JCJ.
Lynching whoever voted for Sera is silly because none of knew if skyironsword was lying or not.
If skyironsword were alive, it would mean that she would be a valid lynch candidate as well. So that's a stupid strategy.
My ability was blocked last night.
i guess we shouldnt lynch him, just to make him suffer.
onion: umm, he just roleplayed. I literally have nothing except from that. Voted on sub (more so cause self defence)
mathman: Pretty similar to onion Did put up the RQS though.
Extra note: I find it suspicious for CleanOnion to quickly join in with the vote for me after UTA. It seemed a bit too simple.I wouldn't vote on you. You're a wonderful person. Besides, you're confirmed town.
CleanOnion is probably mafia, followed by Sera, 1011686, UTAlan, and Fippe94; gonna explain myself later and my intuition.This is a very bad post. It is so bad that coming from Kuro I can only excuse it as probably plain and simple roleplay. Which would lead into what Kuro posted next:
RootRanger isn't hosting, so thankfully what I'm doing is perfectly valid.
Here I can see some real Kuro showing through despite his on-going (likely) CR roleplay. Green is what I consider real-Kuro and red is RP-Kuro. Considering who it seems Kuro is RP-ing I will be focusing on the green pieces. Here, real-Kuro states he is claiming his role... of nothing. Alright then, for now...Hey, Sera, what does your role do?
Hey, Kuro, what's the name of your role?
Hey, Sub, what phase do you think I'll die in?
you know what fuk it, since youre probably mafia anyway and i'm going to die, i might as well say it.
skyironsword is mafia - both the person who has her role and she as a player.
i'm CR. So much for breadcrumbing my initials in my previous post, but that being said, I know that I'm not lying by stating that my role -literally- does nothing. I would quote my PM but obviously I cant do that because rules, although TECHNICALLY it doesnt matter if i die, and mafia will probably get rekt if I died anyway, so yeah. There's that. If I type in nothing, maybe people will understand, but modkills are bad. At least RR isn't hosting
Sera, I'm not explaining myself to you 'cause you're not trustworthy after what you pulled 4 mafias ago. Just sayin'.
This is a shift from "nothing happens" as Kuro's role to his role is that whichever faction kills Kuro is negatively affected... and after stating here too that he is no longer RP-ing his role.EBWOP:
do I need to say that Kuro's been checking this thread at least 4 times today without posting anythingAGAIN? Lynch lynch lynch
The real Kuroaitou would be dealing with his other games - would you let me join RUNAWAY sub? I bet RR wouldn't let me become General for Fire even if I was the only player interested.WAIT A MINUTE I THINK I HAVE SOMETHING
With this roleplaying business, what if some of the roles have requirements about guessing who the roleplay is? It's a stretch but it might be something
that's what I was about to say.
Also, even if I AM lynched tomorrow, it won't do the civies any good, because the least the real players can do is ignore me and actually go for more viable targets. mafia gets screwed if they target me, townies lose time by lynching me. Huh, who would have thought that my passive ability was far more powerful than expected?
so there's that.CleanOnion is probably mafia, followed by Sera, 1011686, UTAlan, and Fippe94; gonna explain myself later and my intuition.[OOC]None of what you said relieves you from being a mafia. And more than half of it makes no sense. To top it off, you frame sky above everyone else, but she's not even on this list. Even more reason for me to think that you are just making this up now and you try to get some time by "explaining your intuition later" just because you didn't have enough time to forge a fake backstory yet.[/OOC]
RootRanger isn't hosting, so thankfully what I'm doing is perfectly valid.Someone should save kuro from a nightkills. He is my friend and I don't want to see him lynched. (Even if he isn't a cat.)[OOC]Let's lynch Kuro tomorrow and if he flips mafia, lynch math next.[/OOC]I don't understand why you would make a role that does nothing. But I'm sure it's part of Linkcat's brilliant master plan. He's never, ever failed to make gameplay interesting. Not even once. There was no occasion where Linkcat did something that was not fun. I assure you.[OOC]One more reason to think that Kuro is lying.[/OOC]
Sub, regardless of whether or not I'm mafia, killing me is literally the dumbest thing you can do. I already stated that my role is useless, and if the mafia kill me, guess what? Townies get the advantage. If a townie lynches me, mafia gets the advantage. So long as I'm alive, the game is fair, and in my opinion, you haven't forged a backstory yet either. Sometimes wild shots in a cave is useful for bring upon a rock slide; you might create an opening of light if you do it right.
If math is NOT mafia, everyone should lynch Submachine. Just saying. I'm a civilian. PLEASE don't lynch me. If I die, kill Submachine because his aggression is unnecessary during the Night 0 stage where it's basically shitposting. These are not role play statements.
And I'm not lying. I don't lie, but I certainly don't have to disclose everything.
Submachine [2] - rob77dp, RootRangerI take from this that the first claim of "role does nothing" was the 'not being honest' and what has followed is more "for real".
1011686 [3] - UTAlan, CleanOnion, Kuroaitou
CleanOnion [3] - fabian771, mathman101, 1011686
Solaris [1] - Sera
Sera [1] - skyironsword
frankly, even if this goes down wrong I feel like I'm doing the right thing anyway, sot here's that.
I'm going to assume that RootRanger 'shitposting' could be an reference to an actual staff member (hah!), but nonetheless, regardless of who hates me, i figure if I can be of some use to removing restrictions off of people's abilities, then consider me posting more as a way to help get your real opinions on this game.
Sub, it's one thing to distrust me, but frankly this is what's best for the town. being honest at the start of the game has never been one of the FGO's tactics, mainly because he's probably too busy thinking about other stuff (or just being afk/silently observant as normal regardless of faction, and then chipping in later if he's still alive).
Thanks for calling me out btw ^^; - but since I'm not mafia, me roleclaiming early isn't roleplay, but just useful town strategy. OOC.
So anyway, 1011686, I already figured out your role (or at least what the name stands for), so yeah, that's why I'm voting on you. Some roles that don't die first are usually the most suspicious anyway.
points out that my inactivity would've modkilled me anyway. Kuro trying to capitalize on the silence of others is a bit concerning and I'd personally like to see what he says in his defence.Do people still get MK for inactivity if so then shouldn't we lynch someone else
If Hyro is civvy, and we lynch him for inactivity, it's simply a wasted day of lynching.
If Hyro is mafia, and we lynch him for inactivity, yay - although it's unlikely he'll allow this to happen, so at least starting a lynch train on him will force him to speak, so we might read him.
If we allow Hyro to die to inactivity, it achieves the exact same thing, but we get our lynch back, and have the chance of lynching a mafia.
TL/DR, we should leave the train on Hyro at 3, rather than piling on. This allows him to be under pressure, but means we won't get a situation where he posts late in the day and not enough people log on in time to reverse the lynch, should we like what he says. However, we should keep discussion going on potential other lynch targets, because if he's going to die from inactivity anyway, we should take the opportunity to use our power of lynching by choosing someone who isn't already marked for death.
Let's make this a tie, forcing others to vote if they don't want to see a no lynch.Good thinking. Furthermore, it'll be interesting to see the rationale for breaking the tie as opposed to just getting on a train.
You know he's RPing an idiot right? This isn't supposed to be a good idea.Let's make this a tie, forcing others to vote if they don't want to see a no lynch.Good thinking. Furthermore, it'll be interesting to see the rationale for breaking the tie as opposed to just getting on a train.
Would you say that it's a bad idea?I don't like ties. Too easy for mafia to blitz their votes.
Would you say that it's a bad idea?I don't like ties. Too easy for mafia to blitz their votes.
Would you say that it's a bad idea?I don't like ties. Too easy for mafia to blitz their votes.
But surely, then we'd just catch a mafia?
I am now putting my vote on Kuro based on the following:
1. Kuro states his original claim of 'role that does nothing' is not true - lying town is a town that comes under fire.
2. Kuro claims a role that hurts town if lynched and hurts mafia if NK'd.
3. Kuro, based on past mafia games here, is not usually an early-game lynch target.
4. Kuro, based on past mafia games here, is usually a high-priority mafia-NK-target.
5. An ability that hurts whichever faction kills him combined with the very typical results for Kuro in an EtG mafia means his town strategy should be to steer his possible death to be by the faction opposite his own.
Would you say that it's a bad idea?I don't like ties. Too easy for mafia to blitz their votes.
But surely, then we'd just catch a mafia?
It depends. Would you say that UTA is clearly mafia for taking his vote from Onion at the last minute and breaking the tie?
1. Kuro states his original claim of 'role that does nothing' is not true - lying town is a town that comes under fire.
2. Kuro claims a role that hurts town if lynched and hurts mafia if NK'd.
3. Kuro, based on past mafia games here, is not usually an early-game lynch target.
4. Kuro, based on past mafia games here, is usually a high-priority mafia-NK-target.
5. An ability that hurts whichever faction kills him combined with the very typical results for Kuro in an EtG mafia means his town strategy should be to steer his possible death to be by the faction opposite his own.
Not clearly, but I'd consider it a mark.Would you say that it's a bad idea?I don't like ties. Too easy for mafia to blitz their votes.
But surely, then we'd just catch a mafia?
It depends. Would you say that UTA is clearly mafia for taking his vote from Onion at the last minute and breaking the tie?
[color=yellow][b]IF YOU'RE A REAL TOWN PERSON, DON'T CHANGE YOUR VOTE OFF ME.[/b][/color] I assure you, whatever happens, my ability only wastes "time" for civilians, but will ruin mafia. [color=transparent]Your mafia experience per se, not the mafia members sadly.[/color]
1. Roleplaying CR is harder than I thought. :P Don't you guys remember that one time that CR MASSIVELY fudged up the roles by stating that there was a 'Policeman' in his list, rather than a 'Politician' or some shiz?
There is only one role that can change the role of a player, and it has limited use.
.The role that targeted Espithel did not change his role, it just disabled it.
A lamp switched off is still a lamp, it didn't turn into a cow just because it's off..The role that targeted Espithel did not change his role, it just disabled it.
Disabling is a change, though. e.e
*Cough*
Verry well.
Has it been posted elsewhere if there is a jester role? It doesn't seem like something that would appear randomly in an elements mafia, especially closed, but its always worth asking about. Thats my only hesitation with killing kuro, else, if he really wants to die, let him. Im not quite sure what he means by "Waste the towns time" But I suppose we'll find out?
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2. WIFOM (now that I get the paradox that was explained of it in chat); technically speaking, I may have a completely useless role ('nothing') that has no benefit to either side, since it's not an active role. Theoretically though, I could have also lied and try to either trick mafia into thinking that I actually don't have an investigative/protective/revenge role so that they avoid night killing me, and thus prolong the game magically through a simple roleplay/gamble at the beginning of the game (which is something I rarely do, but Linkcat's setup has given me more than enough ground and creativity to engage in the format, similar to how 51 was done with the bulletin board).
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Has it been posted elsewhere if there is a jester role? It doesn't seem like something that would appear randomly in an elements mafia, especially closed, but its always worth asking about. Thats my only hesitation with killing kuro, else, if he really wants to die, let him. Im not quite sure what he means by "Waste the towns time" But I suppose we'll find out?
I was a Jester until I was hit by a Rekt from (Allegedly) Solaris.
I believe that at this point it may be relelvant to point out that lynching Krocketou might be a bad idea and a waste of time if the role is essentially vanilla civ- But this is CR roleplay which means terrible town but in my opinion not likely mafia. I've been inactive most of this due to schoolwork so please quote me before the end of the day so i can read the final standings and see what we managed to bring up
I suppose that might be his role's ability, which is even more odd because he said that his role literally does nothing. If you want to steer the lynch off of you, could you be more clear, Kuro?
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2. WIFOM (now that I get the paradox that was explained of it in chat); technically speaking, I may have a completely useless role ('nothing') that has no benefit to either side, since it's not an active role. Theoretically though, I could have also lied and try to either trick mafia into thinking that I actually don't have an investigative/protective/revenge role so that they avoid night killing me, and thus prolong the game magically through a simple roleplay/gamble at the beginning of the game (which is something I rarely do, but Linkcat's setup has given me more than enough ground and creativity to engage in the format, similar to how 51 was done with the bulletin board).
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Also, could this chat conversation (mentioned by Kuro in orange / bold) be posted somewhere on the Mafia 61 topic? If I'm missing it please kindly point it to me (a link) or if not yet posted can somebody who was there or has the discussion available to post please post it?
(I think whatever information was discussed there could be valuable for ALL of us to see.)
someone explained the Princess Bride 'Wine in front of me' thingy on youtube. I don't have a link though?
At this point, could you just straight up tell us what your abilty does, Kuro?I concurr, you're on the chopping block.
That's fine, we'll just get 31 people against youOOC Do we even have 31 forum game players?
Please read or reread the entirety of the rules before signing up, or your signup may not be counted.
Players
1. Solaris
2. Kuroaitou
3. JonathanCrazyJ4. DemagogNightkilled Night 0
5. worldwideweb3
6. CleanOnion
7. mathman101
8. godisnowonline
9. Espithel
10. Fippe94
11. UTAlan
12. killsdazombies13. skyironswordNightkilled Night 1
14. RootRanger
15. fabian771
16. DoubleCapitals
17. Calindu
18. dawn to dusk
19. 1011686
20. andretimpa21. SubmachineLynched Day 1
22. rob77dp
23. Hyroen
24. Sera
Why do people ask questions they can answer themselves eeeeeeeI clearly said "forum game players" not players of this mafia.
Poor CR lol.
What would you have done if he had signed up for this mafia?
Why do people ask questions they can answer themselves eeeeeeeI clearly said "forum game players" not players of this mafia.
Kuro could have played better. Like, literally kept his mouth shut to eat the mafia kill, instead he ate our lynch and wasted us a day.
Also the invisible text is still a dick move.
Also, looking at the way Linkcat made his roles, I got only this to say:kek kek kekkekkekkekkek kek kek
kek kek kek kek kek
kek kek kek kek kek
kekkek kekkekkekkekkek kekkek
kek kek kek kek kek
kek kek kek kek kek
kek kek kekkekkekkekkek kek kek
Kuro could have played better. Like, literally kept his mouth shut to eat the mafia kill, instead he ate our lynch and wasted us a day.
Also the invisible text is still a dick move.
Also, looking at the way Linkcat made his roles, I got only this to say:kek kek kekkekkekkekkek kek kek
kek kek kek kek kek
kek kek kek kek kek
kekkek kekkekkekkekkek kekkek
kek kek kek kek kek
kek kek kek kek kek
kek kek kekkekkekkekkek kek kek
what?
Because they mean entirely different things.Why do people ask questions they can answer themselves eeeeeeeI clearly said "forum game players" not players of this mafia.
Why is everyone such a pedant aaaaa
Because they mean entirely different things.Why do people ask questions they can answer themselves eeeeeeeI clearly said "forum game players" not players of this mafia.
Why is everyone such a pedant aaaaa
Also, I didn't know that we're allowed to make use of invisitextHi
Even if we are, i really really don't think we should.Yep, that's what I thought.
In any case, i'm pretty sure that counds as a code/hidden message so should not be allowed in this mafia
Sometimes I think it's worse when someone posts yet intentionally doesn't say anything (except if you're busy, that's okay).
Sometimes I think it's worse when someone posts yet intentionally doesn't say anything (except if you're busy, that's okay).anything
I'm back! And I'm glad I'm still alive. So now that we lost a useless Kuro, anybody have any leads for who to lynch next?
Wrong link. (I didn't check all the links)
killsdazombies being voted/suspected/targeted/etc
by RootRanger (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/forum-games/elements-mafia-61-by-linkcat/msg1238573/#msg1238573) for what seems silly reasons but the entire statements alongside the inquiry are actually facts (farther stretches of facts than this have nabbed mafia before).
by CleanOnion (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/forum-games/elements-mafia-61-by-linkcat/msg1238042/#msg1238042) citing underplaying (looking again maybe this is RP too?).Also wrong link
My bad. This one is a wrong link. My previous post was the right link.
rob77dp being voted/suspected/targeted/etc
by CleanOnion (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/forum-games/elements-mafia-61-by-linkcat/msg1238075/#msg1238075) citing non-existent persuasion to withhold information.
I'm back! And I'm glad I'm still alive. So now that we lost a useless Kuro, anybody have any leads for who to lynch next?
anything
Also I'm roleplaying a ninja, so you either bear with my low activity, or I run away from the town while you guys devote all your resources to somehow scumread me and then lynch me.
We are currently still sitting at a tie, which will cause the no lynch.
and as rob stated near the start of the day (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/forum-games/elements-mafia-61-by-linkcat/msg1237963/#msg1237963), no lynches D1 always favour mafia over town.
Is there a way to determine which of our 2 tied is more worthy to be saved for a day and allowed to live?
Current vote:
Submachine (6) - rob77dp, RootRanger, Fippe94, killsdazombies, Kuroaitou, CleanOnion
CleanOnion (6) - fabian771, mathman101, Solaris, Calindu, Godisnowonline, UTAlan
skyironsword (2) - Sera, DoubleCapitals
JonathanCrazyJ (2) - skyironsword, Submachine
Can we please stop this "anything" posting.I guarantee you it will kill me. Why arent we lynching UTA for needless stabbing? Thats a law!
It's spam,that's it. Not just shitposting, but literally padding the thread making it harder to follow, harder to pick out the actual post to read people, and much easier for mafia to blend in. If there are 10 people saying "anything" to stay alive, then it just encourages the mafia to do the same and avoid any sort of reading.
This setup is hard enough for town, knowing so little, without shitposting the hell out of the thread.
Thanks espi for making a post with content. It's a shame you are basically Bloodless-killed. I agree UTA is reading a little odd, but then again so is Solaris so while i don't know what "stabbing him a third time" will do, the fact he hasn't done it yet mitigates the scumread a little.
Waiting on hearing what www3 has to say about his role.
Can we please stop this "anything" posting.I guarantee you it will kill me. Why arent we lynching UTA for needless stabbing? Thats a law!
It's spam,that's it. Not just shitposting, but literally padding the thread making it harder to follow, harder to pick out the actual post to read people, and much easier for mafia to blend in. If there are 10 people saying "anything" to stay alive, then it just encourages the mafia to do the same and avoid any sort of reading.
This setup is hard enough for town, knowing so little, without shitposting the hell out of the thread.
Thanks espi for making a post with content. It's a shame you are basically Bloodless-killed. I agree UTA is reading a little odd, but then again so is Solaris so while i don't know what "stabbing him a third time" will do, the fact he hasn't done it yet mitigates the scumread a little.
Waiting on hearing what www3 has to say about his role.
because voting is for casualsCan we please stop this "anything" posting.I guarantee you it will kill me. Why arent we lynching UTA for needless stabbing? Thats a law!
It's spam,that's it. Not just shitposting, but literally padding the thread making it harder to follow, harder to pick out the actual post to read people, and much easier for mafia to blend in. If there are 10 people saying "anything" to stay alive, then it just encourages the mafia to do the same and avoid any sort of reading.
This setup is hard enough for town, knowing so little, without shitposting the hell out of the thread.
Thanks espi for making a post with content. It's a shame you are basically Bloodless-killed. I agree UTA is reading a little odd, but then again so is Solaris so while i don't know what "stabbing him a third time" will do, the fact he hasn't done it yet mitigates the scumread a little.
Waiting on hearing what www3 has to say about his role.
Given your statement above, Solaris, can you explain why YOU are not voting?
It would kill him, yes. I'd rather not do it unless town thinks he's scummy enough to try to kill off during the night. I hate these kill abilities when I'm town b/c I'm always too afraid to use it and I end up being essentially vanilla. -_-I thought i remebered linkcat saying that there weren't any straight-up kill abilities, only ones like Solaris's.
AlsoIt would kill him, yes. I'd rather not do it unless town thinks he's scummy enough to try to kill off during the night. I hate these kill abilities when I'm town b/c I'm always too afraid to use it and I end up being essentially vanilla. -_-I thought i remebered linkcat saying that there weren't any straight-up kill abilities, only ones like Solaris's.
Can we please stop this "anything" posting.We *have* to post something during each phase, or we risk getting mod-killed. If you have nothing to actually add at the moment, you say "anything". Blame Link.
It's spam,that's it. Not just shitposting, but literally padding the thread making it harder to follow, harder to pick out the actual post to read people, and much easier for mafia to blend in. If there are 10 people saying "anything" to stay alive, then it just encourages the mafia to do the same and avoid any sort of reading.
This setup is hard enough for town, knowing so little, without shitposting the hell out of the thread.
Can we please stop this "anything" posting.We *have* to post something during each phase, or we risk getting mod-killed. If you have nothing to actually add at the moment, you say "anything". Blame Link.
It's spam,that's it. Not just shitposting, but literally padding the thread making it harder to follow, harder to pick out the actual post to read people, and much easier for mafia to blend in. If there are 10 people saying "anything" to stay alive, then it just encourages the mafia to do the same and avoid any sort of reading.
This setup is hard enough for town, knowing so little, without shitposting the hell out of the thread.
Do you not find it funny that a post complaining about padding is in of itself padding too? This post is too but besides the point I tried to make it concise.Not really, at least I am able to read something that's not simply just poking at my complaint. It was childish, honestly.
Probably doing an ISO-laris tonight if I got time.
Do you not find it funny that a post complaining about padding is in of itself padding too? This post is too but besides the point I tried to make it concise.you'll find nothing but breadposts, but feel free
Probably doing an ISO-laris tonight if I got time.
Instead of "anything" posts, we should cast suspicion on arbitrary players based on silly reasoning and try to justify it as an actual science. We could even throw in wildly exaggerated percentages.
Personally I'm about 90% sure that Hyroen is mafia. I can just see from the way he's been posting. I know all his tells.
Instead of "anything" posts, we should cast suspicion on arbitrary players based on silly reasoning and try to justify it as an actual science. We could even throw in wildly exaggerated percentages.When you read the whole post, it's hard to argue with that logic.
Personally I'm about 90% sure that Hyroen is mafia. I can just see from the way he's been posting. I know all his tells.
Well uta stabbed me - at least if solaris was telling the truth about him being the one stabbing him. I'd appreciate a reason UTA
"No lynch favours mafia" in this case, it would have been the best thing, but oh well
Regarding my vote change that got Sub lynched - I wanted CO lynched, but there was a tie. If I hadn't changed my vote, there would have been no lynch at all, which favors mafia. Not sure how that is a scum move. If CO & I were both mafia, wouldn't it have been a smarter play to leave my vote, since CO would have survived and it would have made me look like town if he was ever outed?
what does breadposting mean again?
Average # of posts in this thread by living, non-confirmed (aka non-Sera) players in this thread: 22.something (I already closed the calculator).
Members with < avg # of posts: worldwideweb3(8) godisnowonline(8) killsdazombies(9) dawn to dusk(13) Hyroen(13) fabian771(13) 1011686(14) Fippe94(14) andretimpa(18) RootRanger(20) mathman101(21) rob77dp(22)
I encourage anyone else in this list to give us their opinions on who they think is acting scummy, what actions they've taken, or anything else that might be helpful.
UTAlan being voted/suspected/targeted/etc
by Sera (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/forum-games/elements-mafia-61-by-linkcat/msg1238075/#msg1238075) in response to UTA's cryptic vote on Sera (_not_ OMGUS by any means).
by andretimpa (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/forum-games/elements-mafia-61-by-linkcat/msg1238768/#msg1238768) in citing the late-Day Phase vote removal which resulted in Submachine's Day 1 lynch.
by Solaris (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/forum-games/elements-mafia-61-by-linkcat/msg1238573/#msg1238573) because of the repeated stabbings. *pointy knife object image*
Mathman101 (0) - Espithel
(I can't vote.)
Mathman has been extremely wishy-washy and, quite frankly, uncaring about his votes, never sticking to his guns... Mainly because he has none. Whilst he is inactive normally, his shitposting can't be explained away by roleplaying, as anyone with even a cursory glance of Discord's record in mafia would know that she does sweet FA and doesn't even like mafia.
As far as one cares, this is his most damning post:We are currently still sitting at a tie, which will cause the no lynch.
and as rob stated near the start of the day (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/forum-games/elements-mafia-61-by-linkcat/msg1237963/#msg1237963), no lynches D1 always favour mafia over town.
Is there a way to determine which of our 2 tied is more worthy to be saved for a day and allowed to live?
Current vote:
Submachine (6) - rob77dp, RootRanger, Fippe94, killsdazombies, Kuroaitou, CleanOnion
CleanOnion (6) - fabian771, mathman101, Solaris, Calindu, Godisnowonline, UTAlan
skyironsword (2) - Sera, DoubleCapitals
JonathanCrazyJ (2) - skyironsword, Submachine
Why are you not actually arguing the case for why 0nion should die and not Espithachine? If you want 0nion to die, and there's a tie, stating some actual reasoning would be a good start to persuade people. Oh, it's your gut? I'm so sorry that you don't have the vocational skills to state why your gut feels that way, even if you can just provide a single "rub-me-the-wrong-way" quote. I seriously believe you're hiding behind a wall of shitpost to cover the fact that your average amount of contribution hasn't increased.
Disc-cuss at your own leisure, town.
IF YOU ARE TOWN AND YOU ARE NOT POSTING MUCH: You're making yourself a lynch target and simultaneously making it easier for mafia to hide. Please don't do this. If you don't have anything to actively contribute, post asking questions or reveal a little about what your role can do or post some sort of stream of consciousness analysis of this mafia. Don't breadpost, actually contribute something if you're able. Let us get a read on you so we can hopefully put you lower on the lynch list and get to mafia sooner.
Average # of posts in this thread by living, non-confirmed (aka non-Sera) players in this thread: 22.something (I already closed the calculator).
Members with < avg # of posts: worldwideweb3(8) godisnowonline(8) killsdazombies(9) dawn to dusk(13) Hyroen(13) fabian771(13) 1011686(14) Fippe94(14) andretimpa(18) RootRanger(20) mathman101(21) rob77dp(22)
I encourage anyone else in this list to give us their opinions on who they think is acting scummy, what actions they've taken, or anything else that might be helpful.
I'd like to extend that question to you yourself, UTA. Who do you think is mafia in this list, other than Mathman?
I think that was just an honest mistake on UTA's part.
I'm glancing over UTA's way for having such a soft reason on targetting me twice.
Presenting the "If I were x, wouldn't I do y" case never bodes well with me. (Is that WIFOM? I dont know the true term. Point still stands.)I'm glancing over UTA's way for having such a soft reason on targetting me twice.
If I were mafia, wouldn't I have stabbed you N2 to get the free kill? And it isn't a soft reason. If I don't stab *someone* twice, my ability is useless. I randomly selected you on N0 for the first stabbing, then stabbed you again so I have the potential to use my ability if I ever deem you worth killing, and moved on to another target.
Having people under pressure isn't necessarily a bad thing. Sol, if you're Town (which I'd lean towards), we should be finding out soon enough.I wouldn't kill me.
Presenting the "If I were x, wouldn't I do y" case never bodes well with me. (Is that WIFOM? I dont know the true term. Point still stands.)
I take it you will stab Gino twice as well, and then move onto your next target?
Considering that we have less than a day to get our votes in I just wanted to post the list of players that are still alive.typical rate is 1:4 maf Civ IIRC
Players
1. Solaris
2. JonathanCrazyJ
3. worldwideweb3
4. CleanOnion
5. mathman101
6. godisnowonline
7. Espithel
8. Fippe94
9. UTAlan
10. killsdazombies
11. RootRanger
12. fabian771
13. DoubleCapitals
14. dawn to dusk
15. 1011686
16. andretimpa
17. rob77dp
18. Hyroen
19. Sera
Furthermore, do we have a confirmed number of how many players are Mafia? What is the typical percentage?
Furthermore, do we have a confirmed number of how many players are Mafia? What is the typical percentage?
Considering that we have less than a day to get our votes in I just wanted to post the list of players that are still alive.typical rate is 1:4 maf Civ IIRC
Players
1. Solaris
2. JonathanCrazyJ
3. worldwideweb3
4. CleanOnion
5. mathman101
6. godisnowonline
7. Espithel
8. Fippe94
9. UTAlan
10. killsdazombies
11. RootRanger
12. fabian771
13. DoubleCapitals
14. dawn to dusk
15. 1011686
16. andretimpa
17. rob77dp
18. Hyroen
19. Sera
Furthermore, do we have a confirmed number of how many players are Mafia? What is the typical percentage?
reading to deep, please get your wolfy snout away from me :PConsidering that we have less than a day to get our votes in I just wanted to post the list of players that are still alive.typical rate is 1:4 maf Civ IIRC
Players
1. Solaris
2. JonathanCrazyJ
3. worldwideweb3
4. CleanOnion
5. mathman101
6. godisnowonline
7. Espithel
8. Fippe94
9. UTAlan
10. killsdazombies
11. RootRanger
12. fabian771
13. DoubleCapitals
14. dawn to dusk
15. 1011686
16. andretimpa
17. rob77dp
18. Hyroen
19. Sera
Furthermore, do we have a confirmed number of how many players are Mafia? What is the typical percentage?
My mafia-radar-alarm goes off when you imply you do not know the answer here, Sol. A town/Solaris posting in the top 2 or 3 of post-counts in this game would surely recall when Lc stated right here (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/forum-games/elements-mafia-61-by-linkcat/msg1238069/#msg1238069) the answer of 5 mafia players this game.
My mafia-radar-alarm goes off when you imply you do not know the answer here, Sol. A town/Solaris posting in the top 2 or 3 of post-counts in this game would surely recall when Lc stated right here (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/forum-games/elements-mafia-61-by-linkcat/msg1238069/#msg1238069) the answer of 5 mafia players this game.Good catch rob. In all fairness though, it was posted a while back. It could be fairly easy to forget. It is suspect though.
Before I make judgement, www3, why did you choose to use the ability last night, and not earlier or later?
reading to deep, please get your wolfy snout away from me :PConsidering that we have less than a day to get our votes in I just wanted to post the list of players that are still alive.typical rate is 1:4 maf Civ IIRC
Players
1. Solaris
2. JonathanCrazyJ
3. worldwideweb3
4. CleanOnion
5. mathman101
6. godisnowonline
7. Espithel
8. Fippe94
9. UTAlan
10. killsdazombies
11. RootRanger
12. fabian771
13. DoubleCapitals
14. dawn to dusk
15. 1011686
16. andretimpa
17. rob77dp
18. Hyroen
19. Sera
Furthermore, do we have a confirmed number of how many players are Mafia? What is the typical percentage?
My mafia-radar-alarm goes off when you imply you do not know the answer here, Sol. A town/Solaris posting in the top 2 or 3 of post-counts in this game would surely recall when Lc stated right here (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/forum-games/elements-mafia-61-by-linkcat/msg1238069/#msg1238069) the answer of 5 mafia players this game.
Do you not find it funny that a post complaining about padding is in of itself padding too? This post is too but besides the point I tried to make it concise.you'll find nothing but breadposts, but feel free
Probably doing an ISO-laris tonight if I got time.
mathman101 {0} - EspithelI concurr mafia hasn't in recent times had the balls to do this yet
worldwideweb3 {1} - CleanOnion
godisnowonline {2} - Hyroen, rob77dp
CleanOnion {1} - RootRanger
The idea that a mafia would try to confirm another mafia as civ is super silly though, especially when there is zero suspicion cast toward either of them. This inclines me to think that CleanOnion is maybe 0.01% or 0.02% more likely than the average player to be mafia. Not a shitpost.
mathman101 {0} - Espithel
worldwideweb3 {1} - CleanOnion
godisnowonline {3} - Hyroen, rob77dp,UTAlan
CleanOnion {6} - RootRanger, mathman101, andretimpa, killsdazombies, JonathanCrazyJ, fabian771
RootRanger {1} - 1011686
1011686 {1} - Fippe94
You just seems to assume he is "Demagogue", and then randomly votes for him. Seems sketchy to me.
Also, I know without a doubt that CO is town. I do not know anyone else that is town. If you want me to claim a role instead of saying stuff I could do that too.
you actually need to put your name on a train if you want to votefk that voting is for pansies
do we need more votes to switch for the lynch?
also Espi, I still don't get why you want to lynch me.
do we need more votes to switch for the lynch?
also Espi, I still don't get why you want to lynch me.
You're just slightly better than the four other options.
if math, clean, www3, and I vote on numbers we can lynch him, if we think he's a better option than Clean or gino
I'm here, too, fwiw. Are we that convinced by gino's post? Isn't that ability something mafia could have? (Or did I misunderstand it?)
mathman101 {0} - Espithel
godisnowonline {5} - Hyroen, rob77dp,UTAlan, worldwideweb3, Sera
CleanOnion {5} - RootRanger, mathman101, andretimpa, JonathanCrazyJ, fabian771
RootRanger {1} - 1011686
1011686 <5> - Fippe94, killsdazombies, CleanOnion, mathman101, Solaris
derp
mathman101 {0} - Espithel
godisnowonline {5} - Hyroen, rob77dp,UTAlan, worldwideweb3, Sera
CleanOnion {5} - RootRanger, mathman101, andretimpa, JonathanCrazyJ, fabian771
RootRanger {1} - 1011686
1011686 <5> - Fippe94, killsdazombies, CleanOnion, mathman101, Solaris
derp
mathman101 {0} - Espithel
godisnowonline {4} - Hyroen, rob77dp,UTAlan, worldwideweb3, Sera
CleanOnion {5} - RootRanger, mathman101, andretimpa, JonathanCrazyJ, fabian771
RootRanger {1} - 1011686
1011686 <6> - Fippe94, killsdazombies, CleanOnion, mathman101, Solaris, worldwideweb3
probably the quickest (and latest) lynch change in the history of elements mafiayou're donezo
omg stop posting or i'll use my 2nd ability, swear to god
probably the quickest (and latest) lynch change in the history of elements mafia
stop pls
oops
oh, so we are ALL supposed to stop posting? ok, got it now :P
I would like to kindly request that all killing roles redirect to mathman
Linkcat please tell me your post doesn't count for the timer...
wait no my post about linkcat's post doesn't count... right... right??
stop pls
oopsoh, so we are ALL supposed to stop posting? ok, got it now :P
TWELVE. SECONDS.
probably the quickest (and latest) lynch change in the history of elements mafia
Not even close. Right, Espithel?
Also for reference, I cannot confirm anyone else as town.
Hm, the use of "chill" makes me suspect that killsdazombies is roleplaying JonathanCrazyJ, notorious user of WATER cards, which are known for their chilling effect!
In the pokemon mafia I hosted, JonathanCrazyJ...was mafia!
mathman101 {0} - Espithel
worldwideweb3 {1} - CleanOnion
godisnowonline {2} - Hyroen, rob77dp
CleanOnion {1} - RootRanger
The idea that a mafia would try to confirm another mafia as civ is super silly though, especially when there is zero suspicion cast toward either of them. This inclines me to think that CleanOnion is maybe 0.01% or 0.02% more likely than the average player to be mafia. Not a shitpost.
Instead of "anything" posts, we should cast suspicion on arbitrary players based on silly reasoning and try to justify it as an actual science. We could even throw in wildly exaggerated percentages.
Personally I'm about 90% sure that Hyroen is mafia. I can just see from the way he's been posting. I know all his tells.
...
God damn time zones differences. I was asleep during that whole thing.
BTW,QuoteHm, the use of "chill" makes me suspect that killsdazombies is roleplaying JonathanCrazyJ, notorious user of WATER cards, which are known for their chilling effect!
In the pokemon mafia I hosted, JonathanCrazyJ...was mafia!
mathman101 {0} - Espithel
worldwideweb3 {1} - CleanOnion
godisnowonline {2} - Hyroen, rob77dp
CleanOnion {1} - RootRanger
The idea that a mafia would try to confirm another mafia as civ is super silly though, especially when there is zero suspicion cast toward either of them. This inclines me to think that CleanOnion is maybe 0.01% or 0.02% more likely than the average player to be mafia. Not a shitpost.
Instead of "anything" posts, we should cast suspicion on arbitrary players based on silly reasoning and try to justify it as an actual science. We could even throw in wildly exaggerated percentages.
Personally I'm about 90% sure that Hyroen is mafia. I can just see from the way he's been posting. I know all his tells.
Don't these seem like (tongue-in-cheek impressions of) demagogue posts to you?
Seriously guys, post something even if it's for avoiding a modkill :(
Yeah, er, no, I can guarantee one of you bastards isn't civ
So here's the full players list of who is alive at this point in the game:
- CleanOnion
- DoubleCapitals
- Espithel
- Fippe94
- Hyroen
- JonathanCrazyJ
- RootRanger
- Sera
- Solaris
- UTAlan
- andretimpa
- dawn to dusk
- fabian771
- godisnowonline
- killsdazombies
- mathman101
- rob77dp
- worldwideweb3
Of those, Sera is confirmed civvy (as much as we'll get confirmed in this setup, anyway).
Next, we have those that are strongly leaning town due to their claimed abilities / results of someone else's claimed ability:
* Fippe as investigative of some sort
* CO as confirmed by Fippe
* godisnowonline as town ability (bodyguard)
* Espithel as claimed neutered Jester
Not that they are 100% confirmed by any means, but we can put off lynching them until later in the game, if necessary. This leaves us with:
- DoubleCapitals
- Hyroen
- JonathanCrazyJ
- RootRanger
- Solaris
- UTAlan
- andretimpa
- dawn to dusk
- fabian771
- killsdazombies
- mathman101
- rob77dp
- worldwideweb3
So 13 (12 in my mind, since I know that I'm town) remaining players, maybe 1 fewer depending on who gets NK'd tonight. We're nearing a 50% chance of lynching mafia if we randomly selected the target. Hopefully we can have improved odds with scumreading and investigative roles and such. We should also be careful not to let the semi-confirmed players determine the lynch target, at least until we can get some sort of actual confirmation.
Personally, I'm still thinking Root and rob are leaning town, and probably Solaris, as well. Everyone else is a big shrug b/c I suck at scumreading. -_- (If we go back to low posters, which is obviously not perfect but at least it's something, that puts killsdazombies, dawn to dusk, worldwideweb3, fabian771, and Hyroen as the 5 w/ the fewest posts [in that order]. [I chose 5 b/c there are 5 mafia members. andre, Fippe, Root and Rob are next in order, just for the record.])
I'm thinking I'll stab Fippe or CO twice so we can have that as a backup method for killing one of them if needed in late game? (Assuming I haven't been killed by then.)
Thoughts?
If Gino flips mafia, or one of the people who jumped ship to help gino, (CleanOnion, mathman101, Solaris, worldwideweb3, JonathanCrazyJ) we should seriously look at them. Beyond that I have to read most of the posts, and still have to try to find a read on people. More posts later
Im surprised why gino/fippe/CO are your pretty much conf towns. Just because they claimed and/or were investigated by someone? well, then why isnt math there, who i also confirmed? seems a bit weird...I can only assume you missed it or something?
Im surprised why gino/fippe/CO are your pretty much conf towns. Just because they claimed and/or were investigated by someone? well, then why isnt math there, who i also confirmed? seems a bit weird...I can only assume you missed it or something?
1) I specifically state that they aren't 100% confirmed. I'm all for a secondary confirmation, but I'm not sure how feasible that is (since Fippe can't confirm anyone else and sky is dead).
2) Yeah, I totally missed that. Linky?
In the time it took me to try to change my vote, the lynch target was already changed :P
Have any mafia died yet?not getting a derpclear here buddy
It doesn't say on the OP and I can't be bothered to track back through this garbageHave any mafia died yet?not getting a derpclear here buddy
no, but no derpclear either, scumIt doesn't say on the OP and I can't be bothered to track back through this garbageHave any mafia died yet?not getting a derpclear here buddy
Have any mafia died yet?not getting a derpclear here buddy
Have any mafia died yet?not getting a derpclear here buddy
Huh? (I tried googling this and found a reference in another online mafia, but no definition.)
My role is Sera, my only ability is ☆★☆★: I can talk with skyironsword (CleanOnion) whenever however. (same passive ability as one of Onion's)
I have not been roleplaying really, so you might not believe me.
To prove this me and Onion breadcrumbed a bit so we could clear ourselves as town after one had died.
Look at this post: http://elementscommunity.org/forum/forum-games/elements-mafia-61-by-linkcat/msg1238042/#msg1238042
The letters startgin each paragraph is FIP. If you contines with is next posts and take the begging letter of each paragraph, you will see that they spell out FIPPEISTOWN.
Also, I did RP once, you can see I mentioned joining a cult in this post: http://elementscommunity.org/forum/forum-games/elements-mafia-61-by-linkcat/msg1237813/?topicseen#msg1237813
I also claimed beforehand that I knew without a doubt that Onion was town, this is why.
I hope that confirms me as town.
Let's try to summarize that day.
godisnowonline {7} - Hyroen, rob77dp,UTAlan, worldwideweb3
CleanOnion {5} - RootRanger, mathman101, andretimpa, JonathanCrazyJ, fabian771
1011686 <2> - Fippe94, killsdazombies
Then I voted, CO voted (both confirmed town, at least if you believe me to be town) and then Solaris voted.
gino then claimed, and people agreed that he was not a great lynch target (note that CO and Fippe agreed early, so it didn't seem like manipulation)
Espi says that math is still the better lynch, but 1011 is a more possible lynch target. math then appears, which makes 1011 lynch possible.
CO initiates the 1011 pile.
Solaris, math, w3 and JCJ join the pile.
And then we have lots and lots of bread.
And here's my analysis:
- If gino was actually mafia, it is very unlikely for Solaris to be mafia. He broke the tie from a CO lynch.
- To add, CO is a confirmed threat for the mafia so it would be odd for Solaris to steer the lynch off of him. Thus it is not likely for him to be mafia. Now before you get to any funny conclusion, this does not say whether gino is mafia or not. This only makes Solaris lean town.
- math, however, is the turning point for the lynch switch. So if gino turns out to be mafia, then it is also highly likely for him to be mafia.
- w3 was initially on gino relatively deep into the pile, but not at a definite lynch (which means it was probably not simply a way of playing safe) before switching to 1011. Therefore his vote is probably not indicative of anything.
- JCJ makes it final. He was initially on the CO train, though this might simply be a move for him to look town for switching vote from CO.
math is very suspicious.
gino and JCJ are kind of suspicious.
Solaris looks town.
And just for transparency's sake, don't forget that I was willing (but too lazy when it wasn't needed) to move my vote onto numbers, as well.
And just for transparency's sake, don't forget that I was willing (but too lazy when it wasn't needed) to move my vote onto numbers, as well.
Thanks for speaking up UTA - if I add that into what I posted earlier then it appears your too-lazy-to-vote-but-were-present-and-willing-to-vote occurred between www3's and JonathanCrazyJ's vote, like this? (again, a goofy color on a vote total from me is to indicate a PAST scenario being analyzed/discusses):
mathman101 {0} - Espithel
godisnowonline {4-1} - Hyroen, rob77dp,UTAlan, Sera
CleanOnion {3} - RootRanger, andretimpa, fabian771
RootRanger {1} - 1011686
1011686 <7+1> - Fippe94, killsdazombies, CleanOnion,mathman101Solaris,Solarismathman101, worldwideweb3, lazy post-but-no-vote, JonathanCrazyJ
With this revised (and correct) vote history from Day 3 I think much of Sera's logic/reasoning ends up putting suspicion onto Sol (consider also the N0 use of the Lobotomizer-equivalent on town-Espithel which I have yet to settle in my mind as the action of a town/Solaris).
And just for transparency's sake, don't forget that I was willing (but too lazy when it wasn't needed) to move my vote onto numbers, as well.
Thanks for speaking up UTA - if I add that into what I posted earlier then it appears your too-lazy-to-vote-but-were-present-and-willing-to-vote occurred between www3's and JonathanCrazyJ's vote, like this? (again, a goofy color on a vote total from me is to indicate a PAST scenario being analyzed/discusses):
mathman101 {0} - Espithel
godisnowonline {4-1} - Hyroen, rob77dp,UTAlan, Sera
CleanOnion {3} - RootRanger, andretimpa, fabian771
RootRanger {1} - 1011686
1011686 <7+1> - Fippe94, killsdazombies, CleanOnion,mathman101Solaris,Solarismathman101, worldwideweb3, lazy post-but-no-vote, JonathanCrazyJ
With this revised (and correct) vote history from Day 3 I think much of Sera's logic/reasoning ends up putting suspicion onto Sol (consider also the N0 use of the Lobotomizer-equivalent on town-Espithel which I have yet to settle in my mind as the action of a town/Solaris).
The fact that I actually followed all that is impressive. Posts like these are why I have you leaning town.
mathman101 {1} - Sera
Solaris {1} - rob77dp
worldwideweb3 {1} - Solaris
dawn to dusk «1» - UTAlan
Hi dawn. What have you been up to? Why shouldn't we lynch you?
I'm the man of bipolar reads.
mathman101 {1} - Sera
Solaris {1} - rob77dp
worldwideweb3 {1} - Solaris
Talk more. You generally talk more when not involved in wolfy activities.
ok, so conf town (imo) is sera, fippe and math.conf town is not an imo thing, it either is or it isnt
@Sol, why did you choose to ask me and not people alive who have posted less?
I also have a bit of negative feeling about root. I doubt his ability is even true, to start with. But then, his useful posts havent really been much detailed. Also, him staying alive till now is weird too, normally he would be mafia's top nk targets.
@gino, have you been able to confirm yourself through your ability?
@fabian talk more please
ok, so conf town (imo) is sera, fippe and math.conf town is not an imo thing, it either is or it isnt
@Sol, why did you choose to ask me and not people alive who have posted less?
I also have a bit of negative feeling about root. I doubt his ability is even true, to start with. But then, his useful posts havent really been much detailed. Also, him staying alive till now is weird too, normally he would be mafia's top nk targets.
@gino, have you been able to confirm yourself through your ability?
@fabian talk more please
If 3dubs = maf, one of his teammates are in that pile.
ok, so conf town (imo) is sera, fippe and math.conf town is not an imo thing, it either is or it isnt
@Sol, why did you choose to ask me and not people alive who have posted less?
I also have a bit of negative feeling about root. I doubt his ability is even true, to start with. But then, his useful posts havent really been much detailed. Also, him staying alive till now is weird too, normally he would be mafia's top nk targets.
@gino, have you been able to confirm yourself through your ability?
@fabian talk more please
If 3dubs = maf, one of his teammates are in that pile.
And just for transparency's sake, don't forget that I was willing (but too lazy when it wasn't needed) to move my vote onto numbers, as well.
Thanks for speaking up UTA - if I add that into what I posted earlier then it appears your too-lazy-to-vote-but-were-present-and-willing-to-vote occurred between www3's and JonathanCrazyJ's vote, like this? (again, a goofy color on a vote total from me is to indicate a PAST scenario being analyzed/discusses):
mathman101 {0} - Espithel
godisnowonline {4-1} - Hyroen, rob77dp,UTAlan, Sera
CleanOnion {3} - RootRanger, andretimpa, fabian771
RootRanger {1} - 1011686
1011686 <7+1> - Fippe94, killsdazombies, CleanOnion,mathman101Solaris,Solarismathman101, worldwideweb3, lazy post-but-no-vote, JonathanCrazyJ
With this revised (and correct) vote history from Day 3 I think much of Sera's logic/reasoning ends up putting suspicion onto Sol (consider also the N0 use of the Lobotomizer-equivalent on town-Espithel which I have yet to settle in my mind as the action of a town/Solaris).
The fact that I actually followed all that is impressive. Posts like these are why I have you leaning town.
mathman101 {1} - Sera
Solaris {1} - rob77dp
worldwideweb3 {1} - Solaris
dawn to dusk «1» - UTAlan
Hi dawn. What have you been up to? Why shouldn't we lynch you?
The conf town list.ok, so conf town (imo) is sera, fippe and math.conf town is not an imo thing, it either is or it isnt
@Sol, why did you choose to ask me and not people alive who have posted less?
I also have a bit of negative feeling about root. I doubt his ability is even true, to start with. But then, his useful posts havent really been much detailed. Also, him staying alive till now is weird too, normally he would be mafia's top nk targets.
@gino, have you been able to confirm yourself through your ability?
@fabian talk more please
If 3dubs = maf, one of his teammates are in that pile.
Please clarify this 'pile'? I see a list of three players you mention - one of which is YOURSELF, making me think you're attempting to share information and ideas but are falling short (either intentionally - we know what faction that is - or unintentionally - this could be either faction and is cleared up by posting more complete information). Can you be more specific so that information you are trying to convey is accurate and clear when we review threads in later phases?
(I might add that you're giving me the same vibe you had in Root's "1984" mafia #59... Start here and read back a little bit (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/forum-game-archive/elements-mafia-59-by-rootranger/msg1234518/#msg1234518)...]
At least your target is still in the game though, Sol, which brings me to:And just for transparency's sake, don't forget that I was willing (but too lazy when it wasn't needed) to move my vote onto numbers, as well.
Thanks for speaking up UTA - if I add that into what I posted earlier then it appears your too-lazy-to-vote-but-were-present-and-willing-to-vote occurred between www3's and JonathanCrazyJ's vote, like this? (again, a goofy color on a vote total from me is to indicate a PAST scenario being analyzed/discusses):
mathman101 {0} - Espithel
godisnowonline {4-1} - Hyroen, rob77dp,UTAlan, Sera
CleanOnion {3} - RootRanger, andretimpa, fabian771
RootRanger {1} - 1011686
1011686 <7+1> - Fippe94, killsdazombies, CleanOnion,mathman101Solaris,Solarismathman101, worldwideweb3, lazy post-but-no-vote, JonathanCrazyJ
With this revised (and correct) vote history from Day 3 I think much of Sera's logic/reasoning ends up putting suspicion onto Sol (consider also the N0 use of the Lobotomizer-equivalent on town-Espithel which I have yet to settle in my mind as the action of a town/Solaris).
The fact that I actually followed all that is impressive. Posts like these are why I have you leaning town.
mathman101 {1} - Sera
Solaris {1} - rob77dp
worldwideweb3 {1} - Solaris
dawn to dusk «1» - UTAlan
Hi dawn. What have you been up to? Why shouldn't we lynch you?
I know I already alerted that this is erroneous but I see reading back I never officially asked UTAlan to fix/correct to a proper target or thought process/vote. UT - can you take a bit of time and clear this up? Thanks.
The conf town list.ok, so conf town (imo) is sera, fippe and math.conf town is not an imo thing, it either is or it isnt
@Sol, why did you choose to ask me and not people alive who have posted less?
I also have a bit of negative feeling about root. I doubt his ability is even true, to start with. But then, his useful posts havent really been much detailed. Also, him staying alive till now is weird too, normally he would be mafia's top nk targets.
@gino, have you been able to confirm yourself through your ability?
@fabian talk more please
If 3dubs = maf, one of his teammates are in that pile.
Please clarify this 'pile'? I see a list of three players you mention - one of which is YOURSELF, making me think you're attempting to share information and ideas but are falling short (either intentionally - we know what faction that is - or unintentionally - this could be either faction and is cleared up by posting more complete information). Can you be more specific so that information you are trying to convey is accurate and clear when we review threads in later phases?
~I might add that you're giving me the same vibe you had in Root's "1984" mafia #59... Start here and read back a little bit (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/forum-game-archive/elements-mafia-59-by-rootranger/msg1234518/#msg1234518)...~
At least your target is still in the game though, Sol, which brings me to:And just for transparency's sake, don't forget that I was willing (but too lazy when it wasn't needed) to move my vote onto numbers, as well.
Thanks for speaking up UTA - if I add that into what I posted earlier then it appears your too-lazy-to-vote-but-were-present-and-willing-to-vote occurred between www3's and JonathanCrazyJ's vote, like this? (again, a goofy color on a vote total from me is to indicate a PAST scenario being analyzed/discusses):
mathman101 {0} - Espithel
godisnowonline {4-1} - Hyroen, rob77dp,UTAlan, Sera
CleanOnion {3} - RootRanger, andretimpa, fabian771
RootRanger {1} - 1011686
1011686 <7+1> - Fippe94, killsdazombies, CleanOnion,mathman101Solaris,Solarismathman101, worldwideweb3, lazy post-but-no-vote, JonathanCrazyJ
With this revised (and correct) vote history from Day 3 I think much of Sera's logic/reasoning ends up putting suspicion onto Sol (consider also the N0 use of the Lobotomizer-equivalent on town-Espithel which I have yet to settle in my mind as the action of a town/Solaris).
The fact that I actually followed all that is impressive. Posts like these are why I have you leaning town.
mathman101 {1} - Sera
Solaris {1} - rob77dp
worldwideweb3 {1} - Solaris
dawn to dusk «1» - UTAlan
Hi dawn. What have you been up to? Why shouldn't we lynch you?
I know I already alerted that this is erroneous but I see reading back I never officially asked UTAlan to fix/correct to a proper target or thought process/vote. UT - can you take a bit of time and clear this up? Thanks.
* EBWOP - I have corrected bracket-abuse in my first issue of these statements and also offer the new content at the bottom of the post.Yes. That list. One is mafia if 3dubs is mafia, because he stated that "imo, these 3 are confirmed town". Confirmations are not based off opinions, but scumminess is.The conf town list.ok, so conf town (imo) is sera, fippe and math.conf town is not an imo thing, it either is or it isnt
@Sol, why did you choose to ask me and not people alive who have posted less?
I also have a bit of negative feeling about root. I doubt his ability is even true, to start with. But then, his useful posts havent really been much detailed. Also, him staying alive till now is weird too, normally he would be mafia's top nk targets.
@gino, have you been able to confirm yourself through your ability?
@fabian talk more please
If 3dubs = maf, one of his teammates are in that pile.
Please clarify this 'pile'? I see a list of three players you mention - one of which is YOURSELF, making me think you're attempting to share information and ideas but are falling short (either intentionally - we know what faction that is - or unintentionally - this could be either faction and is cleared up by posting more complete information). Can you be more specific so that information you are trying to convey is accurate and clear when we review threads in later phases?
~I might add that you're giving me the same vibe you had in Root's "1984" mafia #59... Start here and read back a little bit (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/forum-game-archive/elements-mafia-59-by-rootranger/msg1234518/#msg1234518)...~
At least your target is still in the game though, Sol, which brings me to:And just for transparency's sake, don't forget that I was willing (but too lazy when it wasn't needed) to move my vote onto numbers, as well.
Thanks for speaking up UTA - if I add that into what I posted earlier then it appears your too-lazy-to-vote-but-were-present-and-willing-to-vote occurred between www3's and JonathanCrazyJ's vote, like this? (again, a goofy color on a vote total from me is to indicate a PAST scenario being analyzed/discusses):
mathman101 {0} - Espithel
godisnowonline {4-1} - Hyroen, rob77dp,UTAlan, Sera
CleanOnion {3} - RootRanger, andretimpa, fabian771
RootRanger {1} - 1011686
1011686 <7+1> - Fippe94, killsdazombies, CleanOnion,mathman101Solaris,Solarismathman101, worldwideweb3, lazy post-but-no-vote, JonathanCrazyJ
With this revised (and correct) vote history from Day 3 I think much of Sera's logic/reasoning ends up putting suspicion onto Sol (consider also the N0 use of the Lobotomizer-equivalent on town-Espithel which I have yet to settle in my mind as the action of a town/Solaris).
The fact that I actually followed all that is impressive. Posts like these are why I have you leaning town.
mathman101 {1} - Sera
Solaris {1} - rob77dp
worldwideweb3 {1} - Solaris
dawn to dusk «1» - UTAlan
Hi dawn. What have you been up to? Why shouldn't we lynch you?
I know I already alerted that this is erroneous but I see reading back I never officially asked UTAlan to fix/correct to a proper target or thought process/vote. UT - can you take a bit of time and clear this up? Thanks.
Not. Sure. If. Serious. On thinking that is clarifying your meaning...?
Which conf town list? The only truly confirmed town list, really truly, is the dead civ list which does us little good. Hence, conf town list is generally some degree of subjective so this means you could be most-town-helpful by alleviating ambiguity to type an actual list or color/highlight it in a quote. :D
Or can you confirm this typed list of names:
- Sera
- Fippe
- math
I'm kinda with w3 on this one. Maybe "imo" was a poor choice of words, but would "from my perspective" have changed anything? I included something similar in my most recent long post - how there were 13 players who hadn't claimed to confirm someone or to have been confirmed, but 12 if you exclude me since *I* know that I'm town. (Note that those #s are not actually accurate, but my point stands.)regardless of perspective, towns that are not confirmed by game mechanics are not confirmed town.
So, Sera (confirmed civ) is suspicious of mathman (confirmed civ) -- could someone who has been following more intently explain how each of them were "confirmed"?
I am not confirmed. Keeping vote on fabian for now, but interested to see if andre will speak up at all.
I am not confirmed. Keeping vote on fabian for now, but interested to see if andre will speak up at all.
I didn't followed Solaris' reasoning, as he ends up concluding that if www flips mafia, then there's another mafioso among the 3 people we have the strongest reasons to believe are town.
I am not confirmed. Keeping vote on fabian for now, but interested to see if andre will speak up at all.
I didn't followed Solaris' reasoning, as he ends up concluding that if www flips mafia, then there's another mafioso among the 3 people we have the strongest reasons to believe are town.
never trust anyone until confirmed town via death or game mechanics is my game
if game mechanics confirm her then www3 is just spewing his opinions with an already given fact in an attempt to look townI am not confirmed. Keeping vote on fabian for now, but interested to see if andre will speak up at all.
I didn't followed Solaris' reasoning, as he ends up concluding that if www flips mafia, then there's another mafioso among the 3 people we have the strongest reasons to believe are town.
never trust anyone until confirmed town via death or game mechanics is my game
Not even Sera? I think game mechanics confirms her, doesn't it?
Sol continues to post without answering my question, having reminded him a couple times. Put my vote on sol.KDZ is always inactive, and fabian is new to mafia (as well as being targetted already). next logical choice.
Sol continues to post without answering my question, having reminded him a couple times. Put my vote on sol.KDZ is always inactive, and fabian is new to mafia (as well as being targetted already). next logical choice.
Put your own vote on me.
mathman101 {1} - Sera
Solaris {2} - rob77dp, Solaris
worldwideweb3 {1} - Solaris
fabian771 {2} - UTAlan, andretimpa
andretimpa {1} - DoubleCapitals
Sol continues to post without answering my question, having reminded him a couple times. Put my vote on sol.KDZ is always inactive, and fabian is new to mafia (as well as being targetted already). next logical choice.
Put your own vote on me.
mathman101 {1} - Sera
Solaris {2} - rob77dp, Solaris
worldwideweb3 {1} - Solaris
fabian771 {2} - UTAlan, andretimpa
andretimpa {1} - DoubleCapitals
mathman101 {1} - Sera
Solaris {3} - rob77dp, Solaris, worldwideweb3
worldwideweb3 {1} - Solaris
fabian771 {2} - UTAlan, andretimpa
andretimpa {1} - DoubleCapitals
Why is sol's vote on himself and me? i assume sol put a vote on himself by mistake?
And here's my analysis:
- If gino was actually mafia, it is very unlikely for Solaris to be mafia. He broke the tie from a CO lynch.
- To add, CO is a confirmed threat for the mafia so it would be odd for Solaris to steer the lynch off of him. Thus it is not likely for him to be mafia. Now before you get to any funny conclusion, this does not say whether gino is mafia or not. This only makes Solaris lean town.
- math, however, is the turning point for the lynch switch. So if gino turns out to be mafia, then it is also highly likely for him to be mafia.
- w3 was initially on gino relatively deep into the pile, but not at a definite lynch (which means it was probably not simply a way of playing safe) before switching to 1011. Therefore his vote is probably not indicative of anything.
- JCJ makes it final. He was initially on the CO train, though this might simply be a move for him to look town for switching vote from CO.
math is very suspicious.
gino and JCJ are kind of suspicious.
Solaris looks town.
I answered it. Funny, that you're on the list that I called w3 out on. ;)
mathman101 {3} - Sera, JonathanCrazyJ, Godisnowonline
Solaris {3} - rob77dp, worldwideweb3, mathman101
worldwideweb3 {1} - Solaris
fabian771 {2} - UTAlan, andretimpa
andretimpa {1} - DoubleCapitals
I have to agree with w3 in Sola not answering the question makes him appear very scummy.
Suncat is being too argumentative IMO to be mafia, unless hes looking to get hit with every ability from here to the end of the earth, or get a final stab from UTA. Throwing a fit, either through RP, or frustration, is a pretty fast way to get town nightkilled.
I'd also like to point of the innate risks that come with UTA double stabbing. If there is a means of redirecting abilities, UTA can more or less be forced into killing suncat (a person whom he has publicly stabbed or another folk (Who I remember claiming to be stabbed, but I dont remember who actually got stabbed))
The Sera vs mathman confirmed town thing is quite displeasing, sera is as close to confirmed as one can get, but math has an active endorsement from www3. Those three folks are a bit too risky to lynch for my blood, and given that I dont think suncat is mafia that really eliminates the contenders today for trains. Will vote later
Suncat is being too argumentative IMO to be mafia, unless hes looking to get hit with every ability from here to the end of the earth, or get a final stab from UTA. Throwing a fit, either through RP, or frustration, is a pretty fast way to get town nightkilled.
(Sol - are you really just being a disruptive town?)Yep.
(inb4 Link made a game with no mafia)
Seriously, though. If if I survive I'm voting on Root. How is he still alive?
Onion got night-killed ecause he was "confirmed". Since I am now as good as confirmed, I do hope that if there are any nurses/doctors or similar, they should target me tonight.our protective ded. sorry.
At this point it's like we're voting for random people. I can understand not voting for math but... voting on Fabian?
Yes, this. There was a non-math non-fabian target available (with a reasoned argument against them too)! ?_?
the key to happiness isdeath
Like I said, feel free to triplestab me, UTA, or lynch me the following day.
Like I said, feel free to triplestab me, UTA, or lynch me the following day.
I would love someone else's opinion on this. If he's mafia, he's calling my bluff to get me to not use it on him. If he's town...he's given up? Not really sure what to make of it.
I did. There are 5 mafia.
probably shouldnt kill me thenLike I said, feel free to triplestab me, UTA, or lynch me the following day.
I would love someone else's opinion on this. If he's mafia, he's calling my bluff to get me to not use it on him. If he's town...he's given up? Not really sure what to make of it.
There are 13 players. 4 of them are mafia (I believe). This makes 9 civilians, or two mislynches until LyLo. (Three, really, because I can guarantee you either JCJ or Gino or both are mafia. It's one of those 70%ers.)
This means that, if you kill Solaris, he BETTER be mafia or you've royally screwed us over.
Seriously, though. If if I survive I'm voting on Root. How is he still alive?
I'm getting increasingly mafia vibing from you, and i'll outline why.
1. When we had that late day misslynch on fabian, you expressed that you agreed with changing the lynch to him, but didn't change your own vote. Yes, you have since said "sure, include me on the people who voted on him", but at the end of the day this still puts you as "+1" status in people's minds, and allows you to escape detection, despite encouraging the lynch.
2. this whole stabbing business. I think you are not using it to kill because there are so many mafia left, you don't have any need to. You KNOW you aren't going to hit a mafia with it, so you KNOW that actually using it would bring suspicion on you. Yes, this is how you'd play if you were civvy, but just because you aren't using it to kill does NOT in any way mean you aren't scum.
3. This post: http://elementscommunity.org/forum/forum-games/elements-mafia-61-by-linkcat/msg1240044/#msg1240044 (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/forum-games/elements-mafia-61-by-linkcat/msg1240044/#msg1240044) and
This post: http://elementscommunity.org/forum/forum-games/elements-mafia-61-by-linkcat/msg1240045/#msg1240045 (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/forum-games/elements-mafia-61-by-linkcat/msg1240045/#msg1240045)
In quick succession both scream scum to me when they are said immediately after a misslynch that you agreed with, but conveniently weren't in the train for.
Faith in Solaris to be explained soon.
You are not allowed to directly quote your role.Agreed direct quote will not be posted. Please keep this in mind if a request is placed.
After my post I grow increasingly suspicious of those that pile on Solaris. And yes, even after I get taken out by doubt and suspicion, mark my words.
UTAlan (2) - JonathanCrazyJ, Hyroen
Solaris (2) - UTAlan, worldwideweb3
Faith in Solaris to be explained soon. If anyone has other leads, let me know.
After my post I grow increasingly suspicious of those that pile on Solaris. And yes, even after I get taken out by doubt and suspicion, mark my words.Can you explain these "suspicions" a little to help town be more informed in the vote-at-hand? Otherwise, it comes across as more 'shade' with minimal substance in a comparison with the other case on the table - Solaris. It is valuable that you back this stance with a vote on someone other than Solaris. Can you support your vote on UTA more (beyond the not-Solaris aspect of it)?
I confirm Fippe through the use of my ability. Fippe if you post the name of the role i will post the name of the role i recieved in returnthought you said you were a bulletproof
Waiting for gino to respond before I go changing votes.There's no way he can unbury himself. I know for a fact there was a chatlog that was him claiming bulletproof.
Waiting for gino to respond before I go changing votes.There's no way he can unbury himself. I know for a fact there was a chatlog that was him claiming bulletproof.
Yup. Might've been Espithel, not sure.Waiting for gino to respond before I go changing votes.There's no way he can unbury himself. I know for a fact there was a chatlog that was him claiming bulletproof.
I looked through his posts and didn't see it. I'm guessing someone else posted the chat log of his claim?
gino already claimed that ability, stupid to vote on him.see ebwop
gino already claimed that ability, stupid to vote on him.
(http://i.imgur.com/kZlyN61.gif)
Agreed. Not sure it confirms anyone, though. I guess that's what Solaris is saying.
Yeah that seems insane. The fact that UTA is "waiting" make me even more suspicious. Changing to Gino because it has the added benefit of seeing whether the vote change disaster was townderp or mafia training.
Once again, I'd like to emphasize, a Solaris lynch is a town lynch.
If you'd rather, lynch me, but Sol is town.
Once again, I'd like to emphasize, a Solaris lynch is a town lynch.
If you'd rather, lynch me, but Sol is town.
What are your thoughts on JCJ?
Once again, I'd like to emphasize, a Solaris lynch is a town lynch.
If you'd rather, lynch me, but Sol is town.
What are your thoughts on JCJ?
What are your thoughts on UTA?
I'm still not sure about Hyroen and Solaris, but I also feel clueless and tossed like the waves of the sea. Over a day left, so I'm not concerned at this point about breaking the tie. Gonna go with my biggest hunch.
Solaris {3} - worldwideweb3, mathman101, rob77dp
godisnowonline {4} - Solaris, Hyroen, JonathanCrazyJ, andretimpa
godisnowonline {0} - Espithel
JonathanCrazyJ {1} - UTAlan
Totally an OMGUS vote but until fippe clears me i'm not really in a hurry to get lynched because solaris thinks that im not town and that me targeting Fippe (who publicly claimed sera and expressed fear of being lynched) was scummy and doesn't confirm me. Fippe, a post would be great any time now.
Linkcat specifically told me that if a role was not obviously mafia he told me i'd be told if it was mafia. Because i was not told mafia and fippe is still town, he can say that his previous role is town.
The role changing role with limited use has to be your role
It'd a useful ability I now got, so I doubt godis would have done this if he was mafia.
Back on track, I hightly believe godis is town, either that or he is very good at making stuff up. As before, tohugh, I still suck at reading so I don't really know who to go for.
Back on track, I hightly believe godis is town, either that or he is very good at making stuff up. As before, tohugh, I still suck at reading so I don't really know who to go for.
Any thoughts on Solaris and/or Hyroen?
Back on track, I hightly believe godis is town, either that or he is very good at making stuff up. As before, tohugh, I still suck at reading so I don't really know who to go for.
I have to go.
Tormorrow, I will teach you all why JCJ/Www3 can go die in a fire.
I have to go.
Tormorrow, I will teach you all why JCJ/Www3 can go die in a fire.
I love story time
With this post, I declare this mafia to be the longest mafia on the forums, edging out Demagog's Mafia 18 (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/forum-game-archive/elements-mafia-18-by-demagog/), which was played more than 5 years ago.
I hope this one doesn't hold as long, but a little while would be nice. To 100!
I have to go.
Tormorrow, I will teach you all why JCJ/Www3 can go die in a fire.
That is to say, I do not want to be dead.
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It's spam, that's it. Not just shitposting, but literally padding the thread making it harder to follow, harder to pick out the actual post to read people, and much easier for mafia to blend in.
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Thanks espi for making a post with content. It's a shame you are basically Bloodless-killed. I agree UTA is reading a little odd, but then again so is Solaris so while i don't know what "stabbing him a third time" will do, the fact he hasn't done it yet mitigates the scumread a little.
Waiting on hearing what www3 has to say about his role.
mathman101 {0} - Espithel
godisnowonline {4} - Hyroen, rob77dp,UTAlan, Sera
CleanOnion {5} - RootRanger, mathman101, andretimpa, fabian771
RootRanger {1} - 1011686
1011686 <7> - Fippe94, killsdazombies, CleanOnion, mathman101, Solaris, worldwideweb3, JonathanCrazyJ
Something feels very weird about this, but seems like we are in agreement...
there's 3 of us, we could lynch Clean, but Fippe says he's civvy.See above
Ofc if Clean flips civvy that would make fippe seem more trustworthy
i don't really like the idea of 3 of us changing a lynch at teh death though
So only 20% of roots posts needed to be shitposts? i thought he said only 20% could be legit posts?Seriously, though. If if I survive I'm voting on Root. How is he still alive?-snip-
3. This post: -snip- and
This post: http://elementscommunity.org/forum/forum-games/elements-mafia-61-by-linkcat/msg1240045/#msg1240045 (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/forum-games/elements-mafia-61-by-linkcat/msg1240045/#msg1240045)
In quick succession both scream scum to me when they are said immediately after a misslynch that you agreed with, but conveniently weren't in the train for.
UTAlan (1) - JonathanCrazyJ
(inb4 Link made a game with no mafia)
I always find these posts really scummy and they never are lol
mathman101 {0} - EspithelPretty late into the pile. An argument could be made that you're just tacking it on, lazyily but another argument is that this is a pretty solid reason to kill someone, worth far more than just agreeing to kill (aka not kill mafia) 1019346874396. And at that time, you had no reason to believe that www3 was telling the truth.
worldwideweb3 {2} - CleanOnion, fabian771
godisnowonline {3} - Hyroen, rob77dp,UTAlan
CleanOnion {5} - RootRanger, mathman101, andretimpa, killsdazombies, JonathanCrazyJ
RootRanger {1} - 1011686
I think considering how close the vote was between Clean and Sub last time when Sub was lynched, we could learn a lot by who voted on whom back then, by lynching Clean. There is a lot to gain if he is Mafia, and he certainly hasn't been convincingly town.
My role is now sera, I claimed the only role that swapped a players role. Solaris is welcome to jump on me but when he does and i flip as sera and fippe finally claims to be ginyu, i would love to see solaris bleed out uta
I confirm Fippe through the use of my ability. Fippe if you post the name of the role i will post the name of the role i recieved in return
Gino, why would you use this on someone already confirmed? It makes no sense, surely you would use it to swap with someone unconfirmed to stand a chance of finsing a mafia, or confirming a new town?
WHY GINO AND JCJ CAN GO DIE IN A FIRE: THE MUSICAL, PART TWO: PRAISE THE SUN
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Lol, call me out with questionable scumtells, then use my own point about how strange gino's move is against gino.
[OOC]Lynch Hyroen tomorrow.Kuro's final day alive included this OOC (important to note the OOC since we now know Kuro-in-character is dangerous to trust) request for Hyro to be lynched "tomorrow". This was either lost in the shuffle or dismissed without fair time-gained vantage on the request itself. However, let this be a 'final straw' sort of piece in the case should you end up undecided or teetering between a couple choices for your vote...
Sorry <3. [/OOC]
The Hyro-request-from-Kuro came WITH A SUPPORTING VOTE from Kuro on Hyro too (at the time I took it as intended to prompt Hyroen to speak up but I now suspect maybe Kuro-hunches were also involved...).My ability was blocked last night.
Assuming you didn't target skyironsword last night, color us intrigued. Make sure you read sky's passive ability.
Also, but I have to do this:
Hyroen (1) - Kuroaitou
speak~
Going to echo Calindu's statement that I don't care if I die by lynch - I'm the most useless townie of them all after all.A very long post from Kuro of which I think the important part is not his back and forth about WIFOM (related to his "nothing" role that is worse than nothing for some and kind-of-nothing for others) but rather the portion Kuro himself yellow-bolded. At the time I found that part quite strange but in hindsight now looking back it seems to have possibly been a little trap-attempt from Kuro. I see no REAL way it could trap a mafia member _but_ if it had incited some vote-switching it would then have provided a somewhat narrow list of players we could suspect or sus-out/through by way of "who jumped when Kuro said jump" (I would hazard a guess that at the time only Kuro and mafia knew Kuro was town). Nobody flinched. However, if we allow ourselves to pursue a little ways down the path of "this is a Kuro trap" it leaves a list we can 2nd-level consider a mini-POE for suspicion.
But. If I die, beware of rob's sudden attack towards me; Hyroen and rob would be quite the combination for a mafia team, no?
To reiterate rob's list of 5 deductions:Quote from: rob77dp1. Kuro states his original claim of 'role that does nothing' is not true - lying town is a town that comes under fire.
2. Kuro claims a role that hurts town if lynched and hurts mafia if NK'd.
3. Kuro, based on past mafia games here, is not usually an early-game lynch target.
4. Kuro, based on past mafia games here, is usually a high-priority mafia-NK-target.
5. An ability that hurts whichever faction kills him combined with the very typical results for Kuro in an EtG mafia means his town strategy should be to steer his possible death to be by the faction opposite his own.
Turning roleplay mode to 'auto-pilot' now, so my grammar and spelling will remain intact, but just imagine me as CR partially.
1. Roleplaying CR is harder than I thought. :P Don't you guys remember that one time that CR MASSIVELY fudged up the roles by stating that there was a 'Policeman' in his list, rather than a 'Politician' or some shiz?
2. WIFOM (now that I get the paradox that was explained of it in chat); technically speaking, I may have a completely useless role ('nothing') that has no benefit to either side, since it's not an active role. Theoretically though, I could have also lied and try to either trick mafia into thinking that I actually don't have an investigative/protective/revenge role so that they avoid night killing me, and thus prolong the game magically through a simple roleplay/gamble at the beginning of the game (which is something I rarely do, but Linkcat's setup has given me more than enough ground and creativity to engage in the format, similar to how 51 was done with the bulletin board).
Of course, there's the situation that I could have just lied about being a role that hurts either side based on who kills me so that I can just live longer as a third party/mafia member who doesn't want to get lynched/player who just needs to survive until the end.
Too many situations! Blargh~
3. True. Except for that one time long ago perhaps (?).
4. Very true. But see 2.
5. Imagine what would have happened if I actually GOT a useful role. Instead of being the more talkative character who's seemingly pressuring others to speak up in order to create an analysis, I'd probably would have sunk right back into the shadows and kept a very low profile trying to either a) build a civy network as a townie leader, b) create as much chaos as possible as mafia, or c) assist whatever faction I'm on as a support.
All in all, what does this say about me?
...nothing actually. This was a terrible "defense", if at that. ;D
...funny rob how you quote me and choose to paste certain parts of my posts without ACTUALLY quoting the -entire- thing by heart, unveiled. Shady, but no big deal I guess. Is anyone reading these statements? I miss baked potatoes.
If there's one thing I ask of you though, for this:
Hyroen (1) - CleanOnion
Kuroaitou (5) - rob77dp, Hyroen, mathman101, Sera, fabian771
Calindu (2) - 1011686, andretimpa
worldwideweb3 (1) - Calindu
rob77dp (1) - Kuroaitou
IF YOU'RE A REAL TOWN PERSON, DON'T CHANGE YOUR VOTE OFF ME. I assure you, whatever happens, my ability only wastes "time" for civilians, but will ruin mafia. Your mafia experience per se, not the mafia members sadly.
More meat on my claim? I'd love to.Orange bold:
Exact wording of PM? no can do, as per Linkcat's illuminating post. My main claim this round is that Sol is town. Unfortunately, I do see how this could sound like Mafia defending Mafia. Which is why I offered to be lynched instead if there is doubt. This I'll get back to in a bit.
Yes my claim is odd, but so have many of the abilities. According to UTA, his ability allows him to stab someone 3 times and then they go bye bye. I would not at all be surprised if this were an ability, because instakill would simply be too strong. So I'm guessing the 3 use rule is a way to balance it. Similarly, though I haven't played Mafia (the forum game) in a while I do imagine that there is some sort of investigatory role. Unfortunately, this role would seem to require at least a 3day use (as no strong claims have been made earlier) and the user likely can't see the results. So naturally, this puts me in a difficult situation, because I can't say it was me who used the ability, and I have to put my blind faith in this voice that tells me that Sol is town. Oh, and being unable to quote what I got makes it even harder to believe me.
Which brings me back to my previous point. If I were Mafia, trying to defend Sol, another Mafia, then it would be ludicrous to ask everyone to lynch me instead of Sol. In this case, town has the option of lynching Mafia or Mafia so it is win, win.
However, I ask that because I know that people may doubt me, and that's perfectly fair. But whether I get lynched or Sol does, the truth will come out and at least one of us will be believed by town.
As such, civs, my plea is not that you remove your vote from Sol and I because I'm trying to defend him, but that you at least shift your vote from Sol to me.
Consider how difficult it would be to allow someone to post their findings on who is mafia and who isn't if nothing can be quoted and nothing can be guaranteed. This is not a time for town to treat such a strong claim so lightly and even though it isn't a strong claim against someone, it is a strong claim for someone.
Once again, other leads -against- someone are welcomed.
Right.
WHY GINO AND JCJ CAN GO DIE IN A FIRE: THE MUSICAL, PART TWO: PRAISE THE SUNPS: I'd like some more meat to your claim, Hyro. It's far too far-fetched for me to take seriously right now.
This one's a weird one.
For now, I'd like to you assume that Gino is mafia. I'm now going to explain all of Gino's actions and tell you why fun stuff is going to happen.
Now, the number one thing you don't want to do when you're a town is to treat a mafia as confirmed town. Doing so will pretty much automatically cost you the game. The mafia are aware of this. You sheeples should be aware of it too. Are you? Good. Good boy. Here's your treat.
*Petpet*
Right. Gino had the ability to swap roles with people. This is a powerful "confirmation" tool. Confirmation in quotes because all it confirms is role, not faction. However:My role is now sera, I claimed the only role that swapped a players role. Solaris is welcome to jump on me but when he does and i flip as sera and fippe finally claims to be ginyu, i would love to see solaris bleed out uta
Here we see Gino conflating role and faction.I confirm Fippe through the use of my ability. Fippe if you post the name of the role i will post the name of the role i recieved in return
Here we see Gino doing it again, trying to cosy up to So-Close-To-Being-Confirmed-That-He-Deserves-1000-Mafia-Points-If-He-Isn't-Fippe.
Now, assume for a moment that Gino is mafia.
What's Gino is trading here, assuming it works, is the inability to kill a confirmed civilian (You would have to fake the moon landing to make a viable case for Fippe being mafia by this point) to get a mafia treated like a confirmed civilian, AND to make the confirmed civ like you. Assuming this plan works, that'd end the game right there and then. The risk is simply so much more worth the downside.
And why would it fail? We've been extremely trusting of claims lately.
On top of this, whilst Gino is guut, he's a sheeple. I don't thinka sheeplegino is capable of pulling this off alone. {I pointed this very thing out myself BEFORE Espi developed into this research-musical: Click here (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/forum-games/elements-mafia-61-by-linkcat/msg1240366/#msg1240366) to read it.} That's the reason why I want Gino lopped; The sheer risk of what he's done if he's mafia, coupled with him being most likely unable to know this if he wasn't mafia.
It could be a fluke, one supposes. But JCJ does raise a somewhat sailent point:Gino, why would you use this on someone already confirmed? It makes no sense, surely you would use it to swap with someone unconfirmed to stand a chance of finsing a mafia, or confirming a new town?
Fluke, or Conspiracy?
Your choice. I simply believe the risk is too high and we'll gain a ton of information if Gino dies.
I believe Solaris is at least neutral simply because he's acting the way I would expect him to.
... This musical was less epic than I thought it'd be. Oh well.
Orange bold:
If indeed you(Hyro) and Sol are a mafia-mafia pair as you hypothetically posit then your conclusion of ludicrousness of your Hyro-before-Sol request is made MUCH LESS ludicrous if mafia have a role/ability that could save or deflect from a lynch.
Limits on Roles
There are no roles that will affect votes or the result of any lynch. The player with the most votes at the end of each day dies always, and stays dead.
Orange bold:
If indeed you(Hyro) and Sol are a mafia-mafia pair as you hypothetically posit then your conclusion of ludicrousness of your Hyro-before-Sol request is made MUCH LESS ludicrous if mafia have a role/ability that could save or deflect from a lynch.Limits on Roles
There are no roles that will affect votes or the result of any lynch. The player with the most votes at the end of each day dies always, and stays dead.
As such, civs, my plea is not that you remove your vote from Sol and I because I'm trying to defend him, but that you at least shift your vote from Sol to me.
It's a bit concerning that people actually think voting for me is a good idea, but at this point, hey, at least we tried Town, at least we tried.
I'm on phone and haven't had the chance to read last 5 hours' stuff as I was away on hockey. Could anyone tl;dr?
Wait, wasn't someone else sera? Or did I mix up info?
No.
based on this new made up information I didn't read, I have a strange feeling that Hyro is mafia based on quotes 3 and 8.
At this point, this vote is real but purely for analytical reasons. Though hypothetically confirmed Town, convince me that I should vote for someone else.
Sera (1) - Hyroen
[OOC]Lynch Hyroen tomorrow.Kuro's final day alive included this OOC (important to note the OOC since we now know Kuro-in-character is dangerous to trust) request for Hyro to be lynched "tomorrow". This was either lost in the shuffle or dismissed without fair time-gained vantage on the request itself. However, let this be a 'final straw' sort of piece in the case should you end up undecided or teetering between a couple choices for your vote...
Sorry <3. [/OOC]
The Hyro-request-from-Kuro came WITH A SUPPORTING VOTE from Kuro on Hyro too (at the time I took it as intended to prompt Hyroen to speak up but I now suspect maybe Kuro-hunches were also involved...).My ability was blocked last night.
Assuming you didn't target skyironsword last night, color us intrigued. Make sure you read sky's passive ability.
Also, but I have to do this:
Hyroen (1) - Kuroaitou
speak~
Going to echo Calindu's statement that I don't care if I die by lynch - I'm the most useless townie of them all after all.A very long post from Kuro of which I think the important part is not his back and forth about WIFOM (related to his "nothing" role that is worse than nothing for some and kind-of-nothing for others) but rather the portion Kuro himself yellow-bolded. At the time I found that part quite strange but in hindsight now looking back it seems to have possibly been a little trap-attempt from Kuro. I see no REAL way it could trap a mafia member _but_ if it had incited some vote-switching it would then have provided a somewhat narrow list of players we could suspect or sus-out/through by way of "who jumped when Kuro said jump" (I would hazard a guess that at the time only Kuro and mafia knew Kuro was town). Nobody flinched. However, if we allow ourselves to pursue a little ways down the path of "this is a Kuro trap" it leaves a list we can 2nd-level consider a mini-POE for suspicion.
But. If I die, beware of rob's sudden attack towards me; Hyroen and rob would be quite the combination for a mafia team, no?
To reiterate rob's list of 5 deductions:Quote from: rob77dp1. Kuro states his original claim of 'role that does nothing' is not true - lying town is a town that comes under fire.
2. Kuro claims a role that hurts town if lynched and hurts mafia if NK'd.
3. Kuro, based on past mafia games here, is not usually an early-game lynch target.
4. Kuro, based on past mafia games here, is usually a high-priority mafia-NK-target.
5. An ability that hurts whichever faction kills him combined with the very typical results for Kuro in an EtG mafia means his town strategy should be to steer his possible death to be by the faction opposite his own.
Turning roleplay mode to 'auto-pilot' now, so my grammar and spelling will remain intact, but just imagine me as CR partially.
1. Roleplaying CR is harder than I thought. :P Don't you guys remember that one time that CR MASSIVELY fudged up the roles by stating that there was a 'Policeman' in his list, rather than a 'Politician' or some shiz?
2. WIFOM (now that I get the paradox that was explained of it in chat); technically speaking, I may have a completely useless role ('nothing') that has no benefit to either side, since it's not an active role. Theoretically though, I could have also lied and try to either trick mafia into thinking that I actually don't have an investigative/protective/revenge role so that they avoid night killing me, and thus prolong the game magically through a simple roleplay/gamble at the beginning of the game (which is something I rarely do, but Linkcat's setup has given me more than enough ground and creativity to engage in the format, similar to how 51 was done with the bulletin board).
Of course, there's the situation that I could have just lied about being a role that hurts either side based on who kills me so that I can just live longer as a third party/mafia member who doesn't want to get lynched/player who just needs to survive until the end.
Too many situations! Blargh~
3. True. Except for that one time long ago perhaps (?).
4. Very true. But see 2.
5. Imagine what would have happened if I actually GOT a useful role. Instead of being the more talkative character who's seemingly pressuring others to speak up in order to create an analysis, I'd probably would have sunk right back into the shadows and kept a very low profile trying to either a) build a civy network as a townie leader, b) create as much chaos as possible as mafia, or c) assist whatever faction I'm on as a support.
All in all, what does this say about me?
...nothing actually. This was a terrible "defense", if at that. ;D
...funny rob how you quote me and choose to paste certain parts of my posts without ACTUALLY quoting the -entire- thing by heart, unveiled. Shady, but no big deal I guess. Is anyone reading these statements? I miss baked potatoes.
If there's one thing I ask of you though, for this:
Hyroen (1) - CleanOnion
Kuroaitou (5) - rob77dp, Hyroen, mathman101, Sera, fabian771
Calindu (2) - 1011686, andretimpa
worldwideweb3 (1) - Calindu
rob77dp (1) - Kuroaitou
IF YOU'RE A REAL TOWN PERSON, DON'T CHANGE YOUR VOTE OFF ME. I assure you, whatever happens, my ability only wastes "time" for civilians, but will ruin mafia. Your mafia experience per se, not the mafia members sadly.
More meat on my claim? I'd love to.Orange bold:
Exact wording of PM? no can do, as per Linkcat's illuminating post. My main claim this round is that Sol is town. Unfortunately, I do see how this could sound like Mafia defending Mafia. Which is why I offered to be lynched instead if there is doubt. This I'll get back to in a bit.
Yes my claim is odd, but so have many of the abilities. According to UTA, his ability allows him to stab someone 3 times and then they go bye bye. I would not at all be surprised if this were an ability, because instakill would simply be too strong. So I'm guessing the 3 use rule is a way to balance it. Similarly, though I haven't played Mafia (the forum game) in a while I do imagine that there is some sort of investigatory role. Unfortunately, this role would seem to require at least a 3day use (as no strong claims have been made earlier) and the user likely can't see the results. So naturally, this puts me in a difficult situation, because I can't say it was me who used the ability, and I have to put my blind faith in this voice that tells me that Sol is town. Oh, and being unable to quote what I got makes it even harder to believe me.
Which brings me back to my previous point. If I were Mafia, trying to defend Sol, another Mafia, then it would be ludicrous to ask everyone to lynch me instead of Sol. In this case, town has the option of lynching Mafia or Mafia so it is win, win.
However, I ask that because I know that people may doubt me, and that's perfectly fair. But whether I get lynched or Sol does, the truth will come out and at least one of us will be believed by town.
As such, civs, my plea is not that you remove your vote from Sol and I because I'm trying to defend him, but that you at least shift your vote from Sol to me.
Consider how difficult it would be to allow someone to post their findings on who is mafia and who isn't if nothing can be quoted and nothing can be guaranteed. This is not a time for town to treat such a strong claim so lightly and even though it isn't a strong claim against someone, it is a strong claim for someone.
Once again, other leads -against- someone are welcomed.
I feel like it was an obvious pick. Anyone who is seemingly confirmed is believed and thus can reason with the rest of Town. A semi-confirmed Sol is still a danger nonetheless because that increases probability that actual Mafia will be lynched.
This makes me wonder why other "confirmed town" weren't nked as soon. more investigation is needed even of "confirmed" town. Also, whoever has been quick to assume they were confirmed should be analyzed further as well.
Considering I defended Sol to no end, expect me gone soon as well. Defend me if you can.
At this point, this vote is real but purely for analytical reasons. Though hypothetically confirmed Town, convince me that I should vote for someone else.
Sera (1) - Hyroen
At this point, this vote is real but purely for analytical reasons. Though hypothetically confirmed Town, convince me that I should vote for someone else.
Sera (1) - Hyroen
Day Extension (30) - Linkcat
I'm extending the timer by one more day due to the extreme lack of activity. I've also sent a PM to every living player that hasn't posted in the last two days, which is everyone that's not Hyro, rob, or Sera, reminding them that this is still a thing.
The choice of music is literally the only good thing happening this mafia.
Why are we all so shitAgreed. Well, once the truth is out it'll be too late.
I didn't get a PM, and also signup list lists me as dead night 5, but only Sol died night 5. Am I missing something, or just a Link mistake?
I'm alive. I'm a person. etc etc
I'm alive. I'm a person. etc etc
This is how you avoid modkill, but not lynch. Are you town? Why should we believe you? Why have you been so inactive?
I'm alive. I'm a person. etc etc
This is how you avoid modkill, but not lynch. Are you town? Why should we believe you? Why have you been so inactive?
lets kill him for inactivity :p (jk)
but seriously, this is hard to read and I can't seem to find reasons to back up the way my mind is thinking for who could possibly be mafia.
So much this - UTA, this is spot on... kdz, do a review of the thread and let's have some thoughts from you, eh? Or any information you can toss down for helping out here...I'm alive. I'm a person. etc etc
This is how you avoid modkill, but not lynch. Are you town? Why should we believe you? Why have you been so inactive?
math - no matter your self-doubts, I strongly encourage sharing your thoughts as a good idea here (LyLo - unless mafia neglects to do a NK during upcoming night phase, right?) because our last-gasp-town-effort now benefits from any thoughts/information players have to share. Even just taking others' support for votes today and responding with your thoughts is good.
Hyroen has been lynched.
He was rob77dp, and also Town.
and Espithel, who built up his post as if he had groundbreaking reasons, but in theend it was just vague scumreading.
I have to go.
Tormorrow, I will teach you all why JCJ/Www3 can go die in a fire.
At least I can finally use my new ability this night, which *should* buy us another day, so if there are any protective roles left, protect me or we lose.
We are darn close to losing this game, unless UTA and Fippe are both able to make some magic happen that can save us like they said they can.
Well, I don't know exactly how Link does things, but the fact that the game is still going should mean there is a way to survive, right?
/me moans and groans loudly
I have died. Any possible living protective roles - please be active and do whatever you can to try to save the NK target tonight... As Old Ben once said, sort of, "Living protective roles, you're our only hope."
we still have hope...UT's logic on espi does sound good. Also, lets hope fippe has something nice up his sleeve. Time to reverse sweep and lynch all the mafia!kek.
we still have hope...UT's logic on espi does sound good. Also, lets hope fippe has something nice up his sleeve. Time to reverse sweep and lynch all the mafia!kek.
I don't know why my kill on rob last night didn't go off :/
Ah. I'm on mobile so I couldn't really read it easily, just saw the result
I mean, JCJ-Role is kiiiiiiiiiiiinda busted. Pretty much reads "You will only die from the lynch. Also, you are immune to investigative roles."
gg maf
I mean, JCJ-Role is kiiiiiiiiiiiinda busted. Pretty much reads "You will only die from the lynch. Also, you are immune to investigative roles."
gg maf
No dd role 0/10
What? A mafia that you have to actually find and lynch? So broken. There were several times that it was on the doorstep of being broken open...
Also, no comments on the lore? :( It was sublime.
This game has taught me a lot about how to play mafia. Hopefully I'll put it to good use in the next one.Yup, Mafia had it figured out :P
Also, the reason UTA's third stab on solaris didn't work is thanks to me. Expert Panel, remember?
Just want to say that I was very sure that JCJ and rob was mafia in the end.
I didn't have any ability aside from bulletproof. My comment about I had an ability that would work as long as I survived the night was only a desperate attempt to get mafia to target me with night kill.
Well played, mafia. Well played.
That's actually a good point.
Quick, everyone spam posts to page 100 before Kuro archives the topic.
That's actually a good point.
Quick, everyone spam posts to page 100 before Kuro archives the topic.
Kuro go back and only vote for me or I'll vote to lynch you in a different mafia game.
Congratulations to CleanOnion for being voted the best roleplayer and earning one Master of Games point! Let's spend 3 and a half pages talking about it.Your mafia was awful and you're a crap host
Let's spend 3 and a half pages talking about it.
I meant the second one.You actually got my reference. xD I think...
I meant the second one.You actually got my reference. xD I think...
This is what I reached back to:
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/forum-game-archive/elements-mafia-52-by-eljoemo/msg1212280/#msg1212280
Congratulations to CleanOnion for being voted the best roleplayer and earning one Master of Games point! Let's spend 3 and a half pages talking about it.
Hey Link, when is fruit mafia coming?