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Need help with field lock FG deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49014.msg1066738#msg1066738
« on: May 05, 2013, 07:42:58 am »
Hi everyone. So I recently saw some cool Aflatoxin decks which wanted to fight against FG's.
So I wanted to do something similar. But instead of focusing on using Aflatoxin on my side of the field,
I want to make a field lock on the FG's side. Since I don't have much time at the moment, I just leave here
some prototype decks. I will elaborate them tomorrow or this evening. In the meantime I hope some of you
find some inspiration and interest in the idea of field locking an FG ;)
Since the decks are only prototypes there will certainly be needed some improvement.

Deck 1
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The idea here is to use SoSaC as soon as the FG played a creature which you can aflatoxin. This will prevent him from playing more creatures and allows you to field lock him in the meantime. Improved heal in case you need more stall with SoSaC. Skull buckler to lock him. Feral Bond is for late when you achieved a field lock. Especially useful if your Shield gets destroyed because if you manage to get 23 creatures with Mitosis the FG's damage output is equal with yours. And if he destroys also your feral bond you can use your remaining SoSaC.

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Similar to the first one but with epinephrine to be used on a malignant cell.

Other ideas I had but didn't have time to build a prototype:
Some kind of PSN bow with Lightnings to kill Singularities and opponents creatures, Epi, Plague, Steam Machine + Quintessence + SoR and other stuff.

A :death :light deck similar to the :death :life one but with Solar Buckler, probably archangels and some SoD or miracles in order to recover from early SoSaC.
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Re: Need help with field lock FG deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49014.msg1066743#msg1066743
« Reply #1 on: May 05, 2013, 08:20:47 am »
there are quite a few gods to which the field lock will come too slow:
akebono, dark matter, destiny (well, probably), divine glory, elidnis, fire queen, graviton, hecate, hermes (perhaps), jezebel, lionheart, miracle (quite likely), octane, osiris, rainbow, seism.
sure, some of these do have low hp creatures, but have only few/blessings/etc.

also, those 2 decks have close to no damage, especially to dr-shields. guaranteed loss against healing :/

so it only works vs these gods: decay, dream catcher, eternal phoenix, gemini, incarnate, morte, paradox, scorpio, serket.
morte and scorpio still get poison damage. Serket may use cloak. paradox may have his creatures survive some via blessings, enough to give him miracle.
decay and dream catcher may lock you instead, eternal phoenix gets his phoenix back, and gemini may get immaterial creatures.


I like the idea though. But I can't think of a way to make it work against false gods.
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Re: Need help with field lock FG deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49014.msg1067047#msg1067047
« Reply #2 on: May 06, 2013, 02:29:50 am »
you could make a vulture+ aflatoxin?
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Re: Need help with field lock FG deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49014.msg1067330#msg1067330
« Reply #3 on: May 06, 2013, 07:27:48 pm »
Another problem with Aflatoxin lock (apart from speed, as dragtom said) is that the AI now uses CC against cells. So all the CC-heavy gods are unlockable, and even ones with lobo or light CC will still have a decent chance at stopping the lock.

Thats why the vulture 1hko decks aren't as strong anymore.
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based on Dangerous Play: http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,20373.0.html

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Re: Need help with field lock FG deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49014.msg1067520#msg1067520
« Reply #4 on: May 07, 2013, 12:56:46 am »
Isn't that firecell?

Edit: Nevermind, what fire :P

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Re: Need help with field lock FG deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49014.msg1067704#msg1067704
« Reply #5 on: May 07, 2013, 12:41:56 pm »
what about nightmare?
AI plays cells from it's hand. And if you aflatoxin the AI's creature, you are able to nightmare it before the AI can cc it.
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Re: Need help with field lock FG deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49014.msg1067893#msg1067893
« Reply #6 on: May 07, 2013, 09:48:38 pm »
Isn't that firecell?

Edit: Nevermind, what fire :P

Quinted air nymph= unstable gas (but with unupped vulture, you fractal, then you Otyugh Nom, *then* detonate the gas)

@ Dragtom, yeah, that might work. Once the AI has 4 or more cells on its field, its game over. Unless, Octane.

 

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