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Wind Sweep | Mind Gale https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44692.msg1015473#msg1015473
« on: November 14, 2012, 01:32:59 am »
NAME:
Wind Sweep
ELEMENT:
Air
COST:
8 :air
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
Your opponent's hand is sent to the bottom of the opponent's deck.
NAME:
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ELEMENT:
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COST:
6 :air
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
Your opponent's hand is sent to the bottom of the opponent's deck.

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Simple and powerful hand denial.
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Re: Wind Sweep | Mind Gale https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44692.msg1015475#msg1015475
« Reply #1 on: November 14, 2012, 01:35:47 am »
This + Precognition. I don't like his hand...deny!

This would be an insane way to deny with a OTK deck!

I assume that natural laws of Elements means that they would only draw one of the cards back...That being said I think the card has an ok cost. Maybe a little higher, like 9 | 7.
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Re: Wind Sweep | Mind Gale https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44692.msg1015478#msg1015478
« Reply #2 on: November 14, 2012, 01:46:03 am »
They don't draw any new cards to replace it? Ok. Looks about as annoying as Black Hole is when using a rainbow.
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Re: Wind Sweep | Mind Gale https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44692.msg1015565#msg1015565
« Reply #3 on: November 14, 2012, 11:37:53 am »
Imagine going second against the following starting hand: 3 Air Pendulums (Upped) + 1 Mind Gale + 2 Earthquakes + Earth mark.
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Re: Wind Sweep | Mind Gale https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44692.msg1169116#msg1169116
« Reply #4 on: December 01, 2014, 07:50:34 am »
Bringing back up; I've submitted this for the crucible, and I'd like some comments and ideas. This, and 7 other card ideas.
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Re: Wind Sweep | Mind Gale https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44692.msg1169124#msg1169124
« Reply #5 on: December 01, 2014, 10:49:57 am »
And he doesn't draw any  cards? Looks insane in SoBr decks
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Re: Wind Sweep | Mind Gale https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44692.msg1169187#msg1169187
« Reply #6 on: December 02, 2014, 01:27:43 am »
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Re: Wind Sweep | Mind Gale https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44692.msg1169195#msg1169195
« Reply #7 on: December 02, 2014, 01:41:59 am »
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Re: Wind Sweep | Mind Gale https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44692.msg1169209#msg1169209
« Reply #8 on: December 02, 2014, 02:57:13 am »
This isn't a card you can just splash in. You'd need to build your deck for its use. And this card won't win games all on its own; it does no damage and increases the size of your opponent's deck.
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Re: Wind Sweep | Mind Gale https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44692.msg1200353#msg1200353
« Reply #9 on: August 08, 2015, 11:12:40 pm »
Is this a bit cheap for the card advantage it creates? (especially played early game)
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Re: Wind Sweep | Mind Gale https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44692.msg1200387#msg1200387
« Reply #10 on: August 09, 2015, 02:53:23 am »
Is this a bit cheap for the card advantage it creates? (especially played early game)
Two earthquakes played early-game can similarly throw the game. I don't see the problem.
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Re: Wind Sweep | Mind Gale https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44692.msg1200388#msg1200388
« Reply #11 on: August 09, 2015, 03:13:46 am »
Earthquake is 2 cards advantage and this is 6. Earthquake costs 3|2, this costs 8|6. This card is roughly 3 times the cost of earthquake for roughly 3 times the card advantage. Cards do not scale evenly with cost though as bigger creatures and effects are simply more efficient in the long term. This, however, is counterbalanced by the fact that your opponent is normally rewarded for playing as many of their cards as possible. In the case of Earthquake, this means they are constantly trying to maximize your potential advantage, whereas in Wind Sweep's case they're aiming to minimize it just through normal play.

TL;DR - Wind Sweep is a little bit OP under perfect conditions but will quickly become UP as the game progresses and is next to useless in multiples. It is fair, probably on the weak side, and could likely benefit from a single quanta cost reduction but, due to its potential annoyance factor, might be better off staying as is.

 

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