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Gadget Sword | Gadget Shield https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59109.msg1199916#msg1199916
« on: August 06, 2015, 04:33:53 am »
NAME:
Gadget Sword
ELEMENT:
Gravity
COST:
3 :gravity
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:
6 | 10
TEXT:
Weapon: Deal 6 damage at the end of every turn.
:gravity :gravity : Becomes a Gadget Shield.
NAME:
Gadget Shield
ELEMENT:
Gravity
COST:
3 :gravity
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
Shield: reduce physical damage by 2.
:gravity : Becomes a Gadget Sword.

ART:
Clean0nion
IDEA:
Zblader
NOTES:

A flexible weapon that can be run in multiples, inspired by ji412jo's idea of a "cloak and dagger" shield.

If an Animated Gadget Sword turns into a Gadget Shield, that shield returns to the shield slot.

If a Gadget Shield/Sword transforms while a weapon/shield slot is occupied, that weapon/shield is replaced by the new Gadget Sword/Shield.

Crusaders that use Gadget Sword's ability will become Gadget Shields.

Spoiler for Old balance calculations:
Momentum is worth roughly 1 :gravity . Assuming 1 ATK ~= 1 quanta, Titan - Momentum -1 ATK = 3 :gravity weapon that deals 6 damage.

Gadget Shield is directly based on Titanium Shield - in theory, an upgraded Titanium Shield that went with cost reduction would instead by 3 :earth for 2 DR. Gadget Shield is a 4 :gravity for 2 DR shield upgraded, which would in theory be inefficient without some kind of additional ability - in this case, the ability to convert to a weapon.
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Spoiler for old:
NAME:
Gadget Sword
ELEMENT:
Gravity
COST:
3 :gravity
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:
6 | 10 when flying
TEXT:
Weapon: Deal 6 damage at the end of every turn.
:gravity :gravity : Becomes a Gadget Shield.
NAME:
Gadget Shield
ELEMENT:
Gravity
COST:
4 :gravity
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
Shield: reduce physical damage by 2.
:gravity :gravity : Becomes a Gadget Sword.

ART:

IDEA:
ZephyrPhantom
NOTES:
A flexible weapon that can be run in multiples, inspired by ji412jo's idea of a "cloak and dagger" shield.

If an Animated Gadget Sword turns into a Gadget Shield, that shield returns to the shield slot.

If a Gadget Shield/Sword transforms while a weapon/shield slot is occupied, that weapon/shield is replaced by the new Gadget Sword/Shield.

For those curious about balance calculations
Spoiler for Hidden:
Momentum is worth roughly 1 :gravity . Assuming 1 ATK ~= 1 quanta, Titan - Momentum -1 ATK = 3 :gravity weapon that deals 6 damage.

Gadget Shield is directly based on Titanium Shield - in theory, an upgraded Titanium Shield that went with cost reduction would instead by 3 :earth for 2 DR. Gadget Shield is a 4 :gravity for 2 DR shield upgraded, which would in theory be inefficient without some kind of additional ability - in this case, the ability to convert to a weapon.
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Re: Gadget Sword | Gadget Shield https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59109.msg1199918#msg1199918
« Reply #1 on: August 06, 2015, 05:16:54 am »
Absolutely love it.
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Re: Gadget Sword | Gadget Shield https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59109.msg1199922#msg1199922
« Reply #2 on: August 06, 2015, 05:54:13 am »
I.. This is.. Perfect!

I was wondering about paying 3  for 6 damage, but then remembered we have vamp dagger priced at 2
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Re: Gadget Sword | Gadget Shield https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59109.msg1199923#msg1199923
« Reply #3 on: August 06, 2015, 05:58:22 am »
really cool, i agree

how would it interact sader? would it endow, use ability into shield, then gadget sword again?

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Re: Gadget Sword | Gadget Shield https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59109.msg1199925#msg1199925
« Reply #4 on: August 06, 2015, 06:06:04 am »
really cool, i agree

how would it interact sader? would it endow, use ability into shield, then gadget sword again?
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Re: Gadget Sword | Gadget Shield https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59109.msg1200237#msg1200237
« Reply #5 on: August 08, 2015, 01:32:36 am »
Absolutely love it.
yep,

having one card to displace two cards (1 weapon, 1 shield)
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Re: Gadget Sword | Gadget Shield https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59109.msg1200289#msg1200289
« Reply #6 on: August 08, 2015, 02:43:04 pm »
Probably one of your best cards yet, Z. I wouldn't be surprised to see this hit Cygnia. And, just to clarify, if a Crusader is to endow a Gadget Sword, can it control the transformations? I assume it can only turn it to a shield. Might be helpful in a situation where your Gadget Sword gets frozen via means of Ice Lance(?), and you want the damage reduction from Gadget Shield. Very nice work, I will definitely vote on this if you submit it to the Crucible.

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Re: Gadget Sword | Gadget Shield https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59109.msg1200320#msg1200320
« Reply #7 on: August 08, 2015, 07:16:42 pm »
Probably one of your best cards yet, Z. I wouldn't be surprised to see this hit Cygnia. And, just to clarify, if a Crusader is to endow a Gadget Sword, can it control the transformations? I assume it can only turn it to a shield. Might be helpful in a situation where your Gadget Sword gets frozen via means of Ice Lance(?), and you want the damage reduction from Gadget Shield. Very nice work, I will definitely vote on this if you submit it to the Crucible.
Crusader can only turn into a Shield, yes.

Thanks for the vote of confidence. :)

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Re: Gadget Sword | Gadget Shield https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59109.msg1200324#msg1200324
« Reply #8 on: August 08, 2015, 07:41:50 pm »
Ability costs too much, or else the weapon should cost 2

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Re: Gadget Sword | Gadget Shield https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59109.msg1200325#msg1200325
« Reply #9 on: August 08, 2015, 07:45:50 pm »
Ability costs too much, or else the weapon should cost 2
By what reasoning/cards/logic? I'm considering the change, but I'm curious as to why.

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Re: Gadget Sword | Gadget Shield https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59109.msg1200334#msg1200334
« Reply #10 on: August 08, 2015, 08:42:27 pm »
Gravity could use being nice to, part of Titan's cost is 50hp, this equipment deserves to be a bit cheaper since it's a bit awkward (cheaper is faster, this is slow due to having to wait to use active, so compensation)

Honestly shield should cost 3. Shields generally get a -2 cost improvement when upgraded, so I think Titanium shield would cost 2 if upped if it didn't gain DR (See Tower Shield)

View this as a long sword that can become a tower shield

Shield's ability should cost less than Sword's so that it's generally cheaper to run upped (ie shield-deck's play shield, use ability, play 2nd shield is cheaper than sword-deck's play sword use ability, play 2nd sword)
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Re: Gadget Sword | Gadget Shield https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59109.msg1200350#msg1200350
« Reply #11 on: August 08, 2015, 10:23:03 pm »
Points fairly made.

Card Updated:
Lovely art added thanks to Clean0nion!
Upped cost lowered to 3 :gravity on cast, 1 :gravity on activation.

(Also considering lowering Gadget Sword's casting cost to 2 :gravity , based on Long Sword.)
« Last Edit: August 08, 2015, 10:27:28 pm by ZephyrPhantom »

 

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