13 Wonders

[jheamay]

How about attacking players cannot use cards belonging to the Wonder's Element? For example, if a Fire player decided to attack a Light Wonder, he is forbidden to use light cards.

[homoaddictus]

Your analogy doesn't work, Might and Magic has mechanical relevance.
 Underworld has neither mechanical nor Thematic relevance. The latter being what you were referencing.

HoM&M has no mechanical relevance to Elements. It only had such relevance when it was the decided that the Wonders system be used.

[Demut]

HoM&M has no mechanical relevance to Elements. It only had such relevance when it was the decided that the Wonders system be used.

You just said

"Might and Magic had no mechanical relevance until something was decided that gave it mechanical relevance."

How that in anyway combats my point I have no idea.

[homoaddictus]

As for your suggestion its still really only tenuously related to darkness at best. And the underworld is still far more closely related to death then darkness. Especially going by Elements definitions.

A movie has no bearing on this game and shouldn't be mentioned.

HoM&M has no mechanical relevance to Elements. It only had such relevance when it was the decided that the Wonders system be used.

You just said

"Might and Magic had no mechanical relevance until something was decided that gave it mechanical relevance."

How that in anyway combats my point I have no idea.

Using your own words, it translates to this:

"HoM&M is only tenously related to WoE. It has no bearing on this game and should not be mentioned."

By using the Wonders system, HoM&M becomes more related to WoE and gains bearing.

Which means that an idea, unrelated to this game and with no bearing, should be mentioned for it can become related to this game if it ever becomes accepted.

If you still don't understand that, well... just review the posts.

[Demut]

Using your own words, it translates to this:

"HoM&M is only tenously related to WoE. It has no bearing on this game and should not be mentioned."

By using the Wonders system, HoM&M becomes more related to WoE and gains bearing.

Which means that an idea, unrelated to this game and with no bearing, should be mentioned for it can become related to this game if it ever becomes accepted.

If you still don't understand that, well... just review the posts.

So you have finally seen the light and agree with me.

Right now there is absolutely nothing that can be related to the movie "Underworld" even tenuously. Not. At. All.

[Daxx]

I think it's reasonable to talk about the way other media treat gameplay and thematic concepts, even if they're not directly related, as they might have useful insights. But for now, let's drop the subject and move back ontopic please.

[homoaddictus]

Using your own words, it translates to this:

"HoM&M is only tenously related to WoE. It has no bearing on this game and should not be mentioned."

By using the Wonders system, HoM&M becomes more related to WoE and gains bearing.

Which means that an idea, unrelated to this game and with no bearing, should be mentioned for it can become related to this game if it ever becomes accepted.

If you still don't understand that, well... just review the posts.

So you have finally seen the light and agree with me.

Right now there is absolutely nothing that can be related to the movie "Underworld" even tenuously. Not. At. All.

Lol, i give up. You really don't understand at all.

I think it's reasonable to talk about the way other media treat gameplay and thematic concepts, even if they're not directly related, as they might have useful insights. But for now, let's drop the subject and move back ontopic please.

I agree and sorry to the others for dragging this issue for so long.

[Bloodshadow]

Uh... The name "Wonder" is subject to change, right? I think "Sanctum" sounds cooler...

And the guardians of the Sanctums could be called Avatars or something. For example, the Avatar of Darkness guards the Dark Sanctum.

[Daxx]

I prefer the Wonders because they add more flavour to the game world than a generic term like Sanctum.

Travelling on a quest to Yggdrasil is so much cooler than travelling to the Life Sanctum, and carries a lot more cultural weight that the writers can work with.

[Scaredgirl]

Wonders all the way.

To me, Sanctum sounds too much like we are trying to make everything sound super cool, which is something I really want to avoid because it sounds corny.

It's the same thing when you compare:
A) The Ageless Dragon God from the Depths of Inner Hell
B) A Butcher with a Rusty Axe

Latter is much cooler because he doesn't try to be the most awesome thing in the world.

.. plus he will chop you into small pieces.

[Dm]

I lol'd.


Death's Wonder ability could be a ability damaging to the opponent, as in, it inflicts something bad, or he loses a card. That'd be pretty neat, but I think it might be too over used.