The Vault

[Essence]

Already done.  Anyone else?

[the dictator]

A, thanks a lot.

O and, yes, I have a question:

Why did you put 2 eternities in?
Because time + water is used as denial deck, but in a denial deck, we need the trident, and as I don't see any flying weapons, I was wondering why we need them.

(Yes, I know I'm critical, but we have to build our optimal vault together)

[Essence]

That's a good point, the Eternities were kind of arbitrary.

Anyone have a suggestion (not Short Sword) of something to replace them with?

[the dictator]

That's a good point, the Eternities were kind of arbitrary.

Anyone have a suggestion (not Short Sword) of something to replace them with?

Yes, 1 vampire stiletto would be nice, to add in my nova deck

[Essence]

Most recent changes:

-2 Eternity
-2 Purify

+1 Vampire Dagger
+1 Flying Weapon
+2 Heal


Any objections/further ideas?

[Kael Hate]

The Vault is going to look pretty thin with 2 losses.


I can take 6 from this for my win

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4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4ve 4vg 4vk 4vl 4vl 4vo 5f6 5f6 5f9 5f9 5f9 5f9 5fb 5fb 5fb 5fc 5fc 5fc 5fc 5l9 5l9 5l9
I'm thinking

Acceleration tools
3x Photon
3x Immolation

Fire Support
2x Deflag
4x Phoenix

Dis Shield Setup
5x Entropy Pillar
1x Dis Shield

Most anything else seems pointless.

Opinions.



If it is undecided We take this.
5x Entropy Pillar
1x Dis Shield

[harakirinosaru]

The Vault is going to look pretty thin with 2 losses.


I can take 6 from this for my win

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4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4ve 4vg 4vk 4vl 4vl 4vo 5f6 5f6 5f9 5f9 5f9 5f9 5fb 5fb 5fb 5fc 5fc 5fc 5fc 5l9 5l9 5l9
I'm thinking

Acceleration tools
3x Photon
3x Immolation

Fire Support
2x Deflag
4x Phoenix

Dis Shield Setup
5x Entropy Pillar
1x Dis Shield

Most anything else seems pointless.

Opinions.



If it is undecided We take this.
5x Entropy Pillar
1x Dis Shield

We don't have any fire stuff, so the Phoenixes and Immolations would be useless at this point, IMO.

So the Entropy stuff looks good.

[Kael Hate]

This is the Scavenge from Essence/Dictators win

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2x Dim Shields
4x Parrallel Universe

Opinions?

[ItzSean]

Sounds good Kael. But since the time of deck making is at hands( and since i cant edit this post..) Time to retotal our vault.

Salvaged :

5x Entropy Pillar
1x Dis Shield
2x Dim Shields
4x Parrallel Universe

Lost :
(Since Essence isn't here and i seen anything from harakirinosaru about card discarding.. im going to assume any non-our element cards and non-water element cards go first)
 
6x Aether Pillar
4x Fractal
3x Quintessence
1x Lobotomizer
 
2x Air Pillar
4x Shockwave
 
4x Emerald Pillar
5x Forest Spirit
2x Thorn Carapace
1x Druidic Staff
 
44x Water Pillar
1x Ice Shield
5x Mind Flayer
1x Nymph's Tears
2x Blue Crawler
11x Arctic Squid
10x Toadfish
4x Freeze
4x Ice Bolt
5x Ice Dragon

Which leaves us with....

Total number of cards: 252

Aether ------------------------------- 16 x Aether Pillar 0 x Spark 0 x Lighting 4 x Parallel Universe 0 x Imortal 2 x Dimensional Shield 6 x Phase Dragon 0 x Phase Spider 3 x Quintessence 2 x Fractal 0 x Turquoise Nymph 1 x Lobotomizer	Air ------------------------------- 10 x Wind Pillar 0 x Dragonfly 0 x Wyrm 0 x Azure Dragon 2 x Fog Shield 2 x Thunderstorm 1 x Flying Weapon 0 x Firefly Queen 0 x Firefly 0 x Unstable Gas 2 x Shockwave 0 x Blue Nymph 2 x Eagle's Eye	Darkness ------------------------------- 0 x Obsidian Pillar 0 x Black Dragon 0 x Devourer 0 x Parasite 0 x Dusk Mantle 0 x Steal 0 x Nightfall 0 x Drain Life 0 x Minor Vampire 0 x Liquid Shadow 0 x Black Nymph 1 x Vampire Stiletto	Death ------------------------------- 12 x Bone Pillar 0 x Bone Dragon 0 x Virus 0 x Flesh Spider 0 x Vulture 1 x Skull Shield 0 x Skeleton 0 x Boneyard 6 x Poison 0 x Plague 0 x Bone Wall 0 x Aflatoxin 0 x Mummy 0 x Grey Nymph 2 x Arsenic
Earth ------------------------------- 12 x Stone Pillar 0 x Antlion 0 x Hematite Golem 4 x Stone Dragon 0 x Titanium Shield 0 x Plate Armor 0 x Gnome Rider 0 x Graboid 0 x Shrieker 2 x Enchant Artifact 4 x Earthquake 2 x Stone Skin 0 x Basillisk Blood 0 x Auburn Nymph 0 x Pulverizer	Entropy ------------------------------- 5 x Amethyst Pillar 0 x Maxwell's Demon 0 x Abomination 0 x Purple Dragon 1 x Dissipation Shield 0 x Lycanthrope 0 x Chaos Seed 6 x Nova 0 x Mutation 0 x Fallen Elf 0 x Antimatter 0 x Butterfly Effect 0 x Purple Nymph 0 x Discord	Fire ------------------------------- 0 x Burning Pillar 0 x Ash Eater 0 x Crimson Dragon 0 x Fire Spirit 0 x Fire Bolt 0 x Fire Shield 0 x Deflagration 0 x Rain of Fire 0 x Immolation 0 x Lava Golem 0 x Rage Potion 0 x Phoenix 0 x Red Nymph 0 x Fahrenheit	Gravity ------------------------------- 0 x Gravity Pillar 0 x Sapphire Charger 0 x Armagio 0 x Graviton Mercenary 0 x Colossal Dragon 0 x Gravity Shield 0 x Momentum 0 x Otyugh 0 x Gravity Pull 0 x Graviton Fire Eater 0 x Black Hole 0 x Amber Nymph 0 x Titan
Life ------------------------------- 14 x Emerald Pillar 0 x Emerald Dragon 0 x Horned Frog 0 x Rustler 0 x Cockatrice 1 x Forest Spirit 6 x Heal 1 x Thorn Carapace 0 x Emerald Shield 0 x Empathic Bond 6 x Adrenaline 1 x Green Nymph 1 x Druidic Staff	Light ------------------------------- 0 x Light Pillar 0 x Photon 0 x Golden Dragon 0 x Pegasus 0 x Holy Light 0 x Solar Shield 0 x Guardian Angel 0 x Blessing 0 x Reflective Shield 0 x Miracle 0 x Luciferin 0 x Hope 0 x White Nymph 0 x Morning Star	Time ------------------------------- 12 x Time Factory 0 x Deja Vu 0 x Fate Egg 0 x Procastination 6 x Reverse Time 0 x Golden Hourglass 6 x Devonian Dragon 0 x Anubis 0 x Sundial 0 x Scarab 0 x Precognition 0 x Pharaoh 0 x Golden Nymph 0 x Eternity	Water ------------------------------- 28 x Sapphire Pillar 12 x Chrysoara 4 x Blue Crawler 5 x Freeze 5 x Ice Bolt 11 x Ice Shield 2 x Purify 1 x Arctic Squid 7 x Ice Dragon 2 x Toadfish 1 x Mind Flayer 5 x Nymph's Tears 4 x Flooding 0 x Nymph Queen 6 x Trident
Other ------------------------------- 0 x Quantum Pillar 0 x Dagger 2 x Short Sword 0 x Hammer

We're Horrendously short on water pillars... Doesnt look to bright.. ><
If i made ANY mistakes PLEASE let me know and i shall change them asap. And yes, i used his table for ease of displaying/shortness of time/not knowing how m'self.

[Kael Hate]

Stripped Table

Total number of cards: 252

Aether ------------------------------- 16 x Aether Pillar 4 x Parallel Universe 2 x Dimensional Shield 6 x Phase Dragon 3 x Quintessence 2 x Fractal 1 x Lobotomizer	Air ------------------------------- 10 x Wind Pillar 2 x Fog Shield 2 x Thunderstorm 1 x Flying Weapon 2 x Shockwave 2 x Eagle's Eye	Darkness ------------------------------- 1 x Vampire Stiletto	Death ------------------------------- 12 x Bone Pillar 1 x Skull Shield 6 x Poison 2 x Arsenic
Earth ------------------------------- 12 x Stone Pillar 4 x Stone Dragon 2 x Enchant Artifact 4 x Earthquake 2 x Stone Skin	Entropy ------------------------------- 5 x Amethyst Pillar 1 x Dissipation Shield 6 x Nova	Fire -------------------------------	Gravity -------------------------------
Life ------------------------------- 14 x Emerald Pillar 1 x Forest Spirit 6 x Heal 1 x Thorn Carapace 6 x Adrenaline 1 x Green Nymph 1 x Druidic Staff	Light -------------------------------	Time ------------------------------- 12 x Time Factory 6 x Reverse Time 6 x Devonian Dragon	Water ------------------------------- 28 x Sapphire Pillar 12 x Chrysoara 4 x Blue Crawler 5 x Freeze 5 x Ice Bolt 11 x Ice Shield 2 x Purify 1 x Arctic Squid 7 x Ice Dragon 2 x Toadfish 1 x Mind Flayer 5 x Nymph's Tears 4 x Flooding 6 x Trident
Other ------------------------------- 2 x Short Sword

93 water cards = 15.5 water cards per player.
28 sapphire pillars = 4.6 pillars per player.
Max cards per players deck = 31

Have to make 6 legal decks even if they are crap. Don't even have enough water cards to make a deck to dump with.

[ItzSean]

Yea... I really dont know how we're gunna pull of a water based deck with 4-5 pillars + mark. Possibly a chysaora deck could but theres not a high chance of that happening for all 6 of us.

[Essence]

It gets slightly worse.  Because I subbed in for The dictator, we don't get any salvage from that round, and because we screwed up our Round 1 decks, we take a 6-card penalty -- which I'm going to take as the non-Nova Entropy cards, so we essentally don't get any salvage from Round 1 at all.

The Water Pillar loss is huge.  I'm going to be upfront and ask two of you to volunteer to take decks that have very little chance of winning.  That's about the only way we're going to participate meaningfully in Round 3.