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The Vault https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6895.msg74173#msg74173
« on: May 24, 2010, 10:30:11 pm »
THE VAULT

Total number of cards: 240

Aether
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16 x Aether Pillar
0 x Parallel Universe
0 x Dimensional Shield
6 x Phase Dragon
3 x Quintessence
2 x Fractal
1 x Lobotomizer

Air
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10 x Wind Pillar
2 x Fog Shield
2 x Thunderstorm
1 x Flying Weapon
2 x Shockwave
2 x Eagle's Eye

Darkness
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1 x Vampire Stiletto

Death
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12 x Bone Pillar
1 x Skull Shield
6 x Poison
2 x Arsenic

Earth
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12 x Stone Pillar
4 x Stone Dragon
2 x Enchant Artifact
4 x Earthquake
2 x Stone Skin

Entropy
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6 x Nova

Fire
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Gravity
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Life
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14 x Emerald Pillar
1 x Forest Spirit
6 x Heal
1 x Thorn Carapace
6 x Adrenaline
1 x Green Nymph
1 x Druidic Staff

Light
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Time
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12 x Time Factory
6 x Reverse Time
6 x Devonian Dragon

Water
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28 x Sapphire Pillar
12 x Chrysoara
4 x Blue Crawler
5 x Freeze
5 x Ice Bolt
11 x Ice Shield
2 x Purify
1 x Arctic Squid
7 x Ice Dragon
2 x Toadfish
1 x Mind Flayer
5 x Nymph's Tears
4 x Flooding
6 x Trident

Other
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2 x Short Sword

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Re: The Vault https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6895.msg75276#msg75276
« Reply #1 on: May 26, 2010, 06:06:26 pm »
I have a question: can I add 4 squids to the vault even if I only have 2, so I can lose 2 squids and still have some to use, or do we as team really need to have them all at the time?
For example:
Master has 6 squids
Player 2: 3
Player 3: 2
Player 4: 2
Player 5: 3
Player 6: 0
Total : 16
Can we add in this case 18 squids to our vault, or no more then 16?

And I think we should at least add a lot of water cards, like:

18 chrysaora
18 crawlers
18 freezing
18 ice bolt
12 Ice shields
6 purify
12 squids
18 dragons
18 toadfish
18 mind flayer
6 flooding
6 trident

Makes 168.
We can add say 80 water pillars which leaves the other 112 slots to fill with other cards, like shockwaves, forest spirits, other pillars, etc.
This way you can always scramble a deck together of the cards listed here, to make a mono water deck.

O, and Essence, the rare weapons aren't listed in the vault.
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Re: The Vault https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6895.msg75286#msg75286
« Reply #2 on: May 26, 2010, 06:28:22 pm »
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I have a question: can I add 4 squids to the vault even if I only have 2, so I can lose 2 squids and still have some to use, or do we as team really need to have them all at the time?
You can totally do that. We're probably gonna have 6-12 Squids in the vault minimum.


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We can add say 80 water pillars which leaves the other 112 slots to fill with other cards, like shockwaves, forest spirits, other pillars, etc.
This way you can always scramble a deck together of the cards listed here, to make a mono water deck.
It's actually better than that, because Water pillars are free for us (don't take up Vault space).


I'll start putting the Vault together as soon as people start posting or PMing me their finalized decks.


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Re: The Vault https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6895.msg75289#msg75289
« Reply #3 on: May 26, 2010, 06:35:29 pm »
It's actually better than that, because Water pillars are free for us (don't take up Vault space).
Where is that said?

If water pillars are free everybody can add 60 cards, and decks are less then 30 cards (because the water pillars don't count), meaning we can have more then 2 definitive decks
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Re: The Vault https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6895.msg75368#msg75368
« Reply #4 on: May 26, 2010, 08:21:30 pm »
Nope, you're right, Dictator, I misread something somewhere.  Pillars are not, in fact, free. :(


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Re: The Vault https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6895.msg75917#msg75917
« Reply #5 on: May 27, 2010, 02:25:21 pm »
Well, what do you say of my vault filling scheme now?

And, where are the others of our team, I have only seen Uncle Jellyfish and you in here.
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Re: The Vault https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6895.msg76914#msg76914
« Reply #6 on: May 29, 2010, 02:47:48 am »
we should throw in some shockwaves. simply because it would bring that insta-kill tactic to our field.
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Re: The Vault https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6895.msg78084#msg78084
« Reply #7 on: May 30, 2010, 02:00:53 pm »
Essence, we can't have 12 poisons. For water we can have up to 18 of a card, but from to other elements no more than 6.

And I think it can be wise to have some short swords, because it is better than trident, if you don't have earth in the deck (3 attack for 1 quantum, against 4 attack for 3).

And, as I said in the other tread, I would like to have 6 novae, because the deck I build with them works very well, and I'm intending to use it.

I would like to suggest the following changes:
-6 poison (because we can't have more)
+6 nova (because I like them)
+4 short sword (because they are pretty usefull)
-3 ice shield (because you don't need more than 1 or 2 in a deck, we won't need 12 of them)
-2 thunderstorm (because with air we already can use, shockwave, toadfish and owls eye, and thunderstorm is only usefull agianst very few decks)

And yes, I removed one more card then I added, because Xinefs vault calculator showed that you had used 361 cards.
(Vault calculator can be found here: http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,7126.msg84637#msg84637 (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,7126.msg84637#msg84637))
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Re: The Vault https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6895.msg78309#msg78309
« Reply #8 on: May 30, 2010, 09:13:23 pm »
Dictator, we don't have 18 poisons.  We have 18 Bone Pillars, but only 12 Poisons.:)
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Re: The Vault https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6895.msg78314#msg78314
« Reply #9 on: May 30, 2010, 09:25:54 pm »
From the vault-topic, the restrictions:

...
Vault
360 cards from any element
- max 18 per card of your element (restriction doesn't apply to Pillars)
- at least 50% of cards from your element
- max 6 per card of other elements (restriction doesn't apply to Pillars)
- No Shards
- No mark cards
...
I think death is another element, so we can have only 6 of them, not 12.
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Re: The Vault https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6895.msg78375#msg78375
« Reply #10 on: May 30, 2010, 11:45:19 pm »
My bad, I totally misread that.  Sorry. :)

Thoughts on the current setup?
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Re: The Vault https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6895.msg78832#msg78832
« Reply #11 on: May 31, 2010, 05:12:14 pm »
Yes, as I said before, I would like to have 6 novas in the vault, for my deck, because I like the deck with them, and it works extremely well.

And I think we should add some short swords, because they are in most cases better than trident.
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