Round 2 - Decks and Roles Discussion

[majofa]

ROUND 2:

General	majofa	2-3		hainkarga	Berserker
Saboteur	Drake_XIV	3-2		shileka	Standard Bearer
Standard Bearer	Onizuka	2-3		Belligerence	Lieutenant
Lieutenant	Regyptic	0-3		Jen-i	Saboteur
Quartermaster	Spielkind	1-3		Fippe94	Saboteur
Berserker	Vineroz	3-0		dragtom	Saboteur

Event Card:

Notes: The ability of the Strategist is changed and is now a Saboteur.  She cannot use the 6-card "sideboard" this round. If victorious, the Saboteur's team may name up to three cards by the end of the duel phase (they need not be different).  The losing team must include those three cards in the discards from that deck OR discard 3 other cards from that deck for each one saved. For instance, if Dagger x3 were the named cards from the losing deck, then the choices for discards are 15 (includes 3 Daggers), 17 (includes 2 Daggers), 19 (includes 1 Dagger), or 21 (keeping all Daggers).

Deckbuilding:
Duel phase has started

Duels:
Round has ended

Duel phase starts when deckbuilding ends.

[majofa]

(General) majofa vs hainkarga

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(Lieutenant) Regyptic vs Jen-i

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(Saboteur) Drake_XIV vs shileka

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(Berserker) Vineroz vs dragtom

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(Quartermaster) Spielkind vs Fippe94

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(Standard Bearer) Oniuka vs Belligerence

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[majofa]

Any thoughts?

[Onizuka]

More stealy version of Dark Waters.

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Watersteal vs PUDrag
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Pudrag vs Watersteal
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Stealdark vs adrenatitans
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Adrenatitans vs watersteal
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Watersteal vs Life/air stall
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At this point obvious win from my side

Lifestall vs Water/dark
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Computer plays deck too badly.

Will do more testing.

[Spielkind]

im testing some disco-queens vs deathdecks now:

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swaped some cards for this:

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but i have no real idea... sometimes it works smothly, sometimes without discord and queens i got stomped hard...

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Hax-Shield OP!!! only cause hax-shield thinking about 1 more cards cause deckout- with AM could be coming ^^. but with fast quanta and discord there can be no way for death! those losses where totally RNGed, getting no discord and no queen in all cards. could work better with more entro-pends i guess here. NOTE for me: try with 1 or 2 entropillar from salvage!!!

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ok, its realy hard... if i get my nymph AND entropend early, i can outheal them and make my day, but without there is no chance winning this! perhaps more entropy can work wonders here!

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50/50 and i guess, Fippe wil play it better than AI... hard game here... again, more entro could bring AM, more and more im thinking about adding AM himself in deck y salvage ^^

[Regyptic]

I've been working with the Steam Machine deck. I modded it to be slightly more CC resistant and added another explosion in case of that Darkness duo again. Three isn't enough against all those cloaks, daggers and fog. It probably needs more editing but this is where I am with it;

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Alternatively, we could always save Catatitans and send that again. Would they expect it twice?

Hopefully I can do a bit more testing and collect some stats but it won't be until tomorrow night.

[Drake_XIV]

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Since I'm up against Fire, I should be expecting lots of CC.  Mostly Pots, which Queens can take fairly well.  As well as the other Nymphs like Auburn.

If it's up against a rush, there should be enough CC stall out the creatures.

Against a Stall, Queens have proven to be good stallbreakers, unless the sub will rely on several Firestorms on one turn...  Although I could just BB all my creatures as precaution if the Auburn Nymphs can get some uses in.

Takes 6 Earth Pends from Earth
Or are there better salvages from those decks?

Issues:
Against Firestall, there is an issue with maintaining damage up against the Sanctuaries while using BBs to deter CC from actually killing anything or to save Nymphs from Fire Buckler.

Against Immorush, their only successful deck from R1, it's too slow.  It really hinges on an early Permafrost, but there's only one available to all of this.  However, I suspect Immorush may be a candidate for ther Darkness match.

Perhaps we can convert a few to Ice Shields?

[Spielkind]

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so after testing alot vs. ai3, i guess its a hard choice... i got some superfast and no problem games, but if i got no entro fast, its hard... or queen is hiding... feel free to change, i have no more time today and tomorrow for doing things, sry for that!

[majofa]

I'll probably be using this, as it can be all but their fastest rush decks... also RoL/Hope would cause a problem.

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[majofa]

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[Onizuka]

Rest of people have times?

[Drake_XIV]

I'm going to try and go against shileka at 10 PST [GMT 6?] , approximately 2.5 hours after this post.