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Re: Round 9 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=63462.msg1249943#msg1249943
« Reply #12 on: October 26, 2016, 11:42:13 pm »
Did the testing, worked against some things, not against others.

At this point my preliminary thinking looks like this, ( quite close to RR's)

 :gravity: dev/trident (4 squid)
 :air: AM flooding (can't get any worse lol) (0 squids, ice bolts and congeals instead)
 :darkness: Shockwave Squids (can't use permafrost if running AM flooding though) (4 squid)
 :earth: Speed Poison (5 squid)
 :entropy: Toadmare
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Re: Round 9 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=63462.msg1249959#msg1249959
« Reply #13 on: October 27, 2016, 07:02:11 am »
Did the testing, worked against some things, not against others.

At this point my preliminary thinking looks like this, ( quite close to RR's)

 :gravity: dev/trident (4 squid)
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 :darkness: Shockwave Squids (can't use permafrost if running AM flooding though) (4 squid)
 :earth: Speed Poison (5 squid)
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wtfbow against air, too slow? even if I'm pretty sure they'll go with the dark domin
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Re: Round 9 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=63462.msg1249960#msg1249960
« Reply #14 on: October 27, 2016, 07:50:23 am »
guess that deck vs  :darkness jcj put our damsels in so wtfbow not works... can we take somethin other and took airmark for darkness?
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Re: Round 9 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=63462.msg1249969#msg1249969
« Reply #15 on: October 27, 2016, 12:12:16 pm »
Sooo I did some testing.

unfortunately, Squid/wave isn't a good counter to It's a trap. All they have to do is use their GP and BB on squids and they can outrush with creatures.
Toads, congeals/shockwave is slightly better, but they still have the edge.
SoP decks, as we found with balltal, tend to lose because Voodoo.

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Oh yes, time to bring back the void. We may have to salvage some transmuted ice bolts if we want to run AM flooding with ice bolts against air, but i love this idea. The freezes are actually great, i think i might actually like them more than permafrost tbh cause perma takes so long to get out it's often not worth it.
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Re: Round 9 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=63462.msg1249970#msg1249970
« Reply #16 on: October 27, 2016, 01:05:36 pm »
OK, vault is all legal. Notes:

Salvage Discard: Only notable thing is I have discarded Cata Titans. Nobody we would want to use it against is still alive.
Air: Set gambler at 0-3. It will either stand a chance, or it won't. If we lose then the extra relics could be useful in staying alive. that one extra round in later rounds.
Earth: Wtf bow suffers more from CC such as BB than damseltal, plus we can add wings with damseltal. HOWEVER, if we have time I would like to do testing with Speed Poison, as we could run it here, and Manuel suggested it. I do think shipwrecker is quite likely though and damseltal will do much better against that.
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Re: Round 9 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=63462.msg1249973#msg1249973
« Reply #17 on: October 27, 2016, 02:28:04 pm »
i think AM goot a chance vs air but sofree is a mess...
will try to test some poison vs earth later.
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Re: Round 9 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=63462.msg1249980#msg1249980
« Reply #18 on: October 27, 2016, 05:54:42 pm »
OK changed my mind about my deck. i agree poseidon is good against gravity, but i think entropy and earth will target us with EC, and their gens will use bows.
instead, I'll still run poseidon, but as patient wardens (yay!)

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Re: Round 9 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=63462.msg1249981#msg1249981
« Reply #19 on: October 27, 2016, 05:58:10 pm »
Spielkind did testing, and concluded that if we are going to use fractal/wtf bow against earth, then Balltal is the better option.

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Manuel, we did testing with SpeedPoison and unfortunately it got rekt by pulvy mono and shipwrecker/patient wardens. I think these are too likely to risk. I'll run it as -discard, with 2 relics. So long as you save a ball in hand to fractal so they don't wreck us with 1 lucky CC, it should be consistant :)
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Re: Round 9 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=63462.msg1249991#msg1249991
« Reply #20 on: October 27, 2016, 06:39:07 pm »
CC was never an issue, cause there was mostly BB, what you can Fractal still. But that pulvy killing Sopas made damsels too slow for damage, 1ball+1frac+1sopa in hand is win!
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« Reply #21 on: October 27, 2016, 06:45:29 pm »
sorry but i'm still busy with my mom thing

i don't remember if i tested speedpoison or another patient squids vs earth, but i remember the thing on who play first the card with cc ability wins, maybe i teste

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« Reply #23 on: October 28, 2016, 12:16:01 pm »
Speil and i did loads of testing on manuel's balltal. Concluded that mercenary would be a better version, have changed now.
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