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Round 8 - Main Topic https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60474.msg1215048#msg1215048
« on: November 15, 2015, 08:11:48 pm »
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Re: Round 8 - Main Topic https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60474.msg1215051#msg1215051
« Reply #1 on: November 15, 2015, 09:08:18 pm »
Salvage and Discard

Discard

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We can save 6 cards. 3 SoPa, 3 Squids feel fairly straightforward.

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We Save a whopping 10 cards. I can't answer this here, because so many options. Requires some thought and depends what we want to run this round.

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All this goes.

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Again, many options. 4 dims almost makes a deck, 4 sac, dials, or transmute
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Re: Round 8 - Main Topic https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60474.msg1215124#msg1215124
« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2015, 05:43:47 pm »
ok, lets see what we have left:

Toadmare (perhaps convert 2 crawler or toads from dds win)
Patient Wardens
Nymphbolt
Explosplash

guess we need to safe 3 toads, 2 dragons, 2 deflags and 3 novas and hope we salvage a grabbow, or take 2 trident and freeze to stay on guard with our element (my favorite) from rulacs deck.
from my deck its right, 3 squids and 3 sopa.

salvage from dds deck is not real good option... 4 dims makes nothing vs 6... 4 sancs could work vs gravy with dbh but no damage then... so just convert to queens, tears, dragons or toads/crawler. my opinion is to take 2 chrys and make another poison/bolt deck for air, only chance me guess here...

i would take explosplash with dragons or poison/bolt for air.
nymphbolt or patient wardens for gravity.
toadmare or patient wardens for time.
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Re: Round 8 - Main Topic https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60474.msg1215146#msg1215146
« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2015, 08:53:33 pm »
From the novabow, we can discard the novas, if we want ro un another bow we can use QTs at this point. Then save the toadfish, dragons, and graboids, keep as much damage as possible. Then we have three more cards - if we use SoP Wardens this round, we should save the tridents, or if we use some kind of death duo we could save skulls. Otherwise, explosions are the best option. Then we have one card left, probably lycan for more damage in the bow, or the congeal.

My salvage is probably just transmute fodder. The only thing I could really recommend is salvaging a miracle and three dials or three sancs, and running an NT-light deck with a bit of healing and control. The issue with that is we don't have a lot of NT to work so we're limited to one deck with NT unless we transmute. That option is on the table though, if we can make the other two decks NT-less (possible if we run the QTbow and SoP Wardens/Swallow, actually)
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Re: Round 8 - Main Topic https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60474.msg1215194#msg1215194
« Reply #4 on: November 17, 2015, 06:22:45 am »
Given how I very highly doubt we'll be able to put up a sizeable resistance against air, I will heavily recommend anticipating what air will marksman on us, and then transmuting stocks of it. I personally recommend NTs.
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Re: Round 8 - Main Topic https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60474.msg1215265#msg1215265
« Reply #5 on: November 17, 2015, 09:35:51 pm »
Ok gimme what you think... guess i will see dumb dischole again but no idea...
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Re: Round 8 - Main Topic https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60474.msg1215283#msg1215283
« Reply #6 on: November 18, 2015, 12:37:27 am »
So, dd and I had a chat.

This is what we are thinking currently:

Time: Patient Wardens: our strongest remaining deck. Can't use against Gravity as they have Gravy Shield. Cant use against Air because of the quantity of flying creatures and overall speed. That leaves Time, which seems a decent matchup for this.

Air: Quantum Pillar Bow without Nymphs: This works against Air, with steals (as OE can do great damage reversed). This would be less good against Gravity because of Black Hole.

Gravity: So. Gravity is all that's left. And we have to build a deck with everything we have left to us. Dd's idea, is a Light Nymph deck with miracles, Sundials and Ice bolts (bolts to freeze weapon slot, and to provide a possible work-around against Gravity shield. the idea is that the healing from light Nymphs and Miracles, including some Stall and Draw from sundials could be enough to overwhealm many of their decks.

Asside from Patient Wardens, none of these would have been our choices round 1, but I think that with our current vault they give us at least a passing chance at some wins.

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Re: Round 8 - Main Topic https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60474.msg1215364#msg1215364
« Reply #7 on: November 18, 2015, 07:13:27 pm »
Sounds funny. Do it, gordon.  8)
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Re: Round 8 - Main Topic https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60474.msg1215396#msg1215396
« Reply #8 on: November 18, 2015, 10:21:18 pm »
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