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Round 7 - Main Topic https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60395.msg1213969#msg1213969
« on: November 07, 2015, 09:07:57 pm »
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Re: Round 7 - Main Topic https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60395.msg1213970#msg1213970
« Reply #1 on: November 07, 2015, 09:19:40 pm »
Salvage and Discard

Discard

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We can save 1 card. Has to be Toad or Dragon. I'd say dragon, as we are getting pretty close to auto-killed by wings.

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We lose all of this +2 other cards. As of yet undecided.

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We can save 5 cards (yay). I'd suggest SoP so we can actually run Swallow still, and either steals, congeals or Vaggers.

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We can save 2 cards. Tragic. Must be a toad and a crawler really tbh. Oh god we are struggling.

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We can save 9 cards. 6 Novas, 2 arsenic and a poison allow us to run a poison splash pretty well, and still have grabbow. We could also save 3 chrys, or 3 dials depending on what we want to run next.
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Re: Round 7 - Main Topic https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60395.msg1214208#msg1214208
« Reply #2 on: November 09, 2015, 01:50:22 pm »
I have entered in draft discards into the vault. These are what i believe leave us with the largest pool of potential decks.
PLEASE ALL TAKE A GOOD LOOK AT THE VAULT. And try not to cry.

To stand a chance this round we must run:

-Patient Wardens OR Shipwrecker OR Swallow (swallow would be highly depleted without SoFo)
-ONLY ONE domin / splash deck
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Re: Round 7 - Main Topic https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60395.msg1214217#msg1214217
« Reply #3 on: November 09, 2015, 04:09:36 pm »
would say grabbow for DD vs aether with explo and silence.

for earth lightning splash.

for entro bolt nymph.

for air............ hate it...
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Re: Round 7 - Main Topic https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60395.msg1214219#msg1214219
« Reply #4 on: November 09, 2015, 04:11:48 pm »
I'd agree with that mostly, but why lightning splash vs earth particularly?
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Re: Round 7 - Main Topic https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60395.msg1214223#msg1214223
« Reply #5 on: November 09, 2015, 04:37:30 pm »
Cause me expect grabbow or something fishy... hope we can kill them more with 25 unexpected damage and could silence there too.

Would think entropy is easier but with discord i wont like to duo.
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Re: Round 7 - Main Topic https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60395.msg1214228#msg1214228
« Reply #6 on: November 09, 2015, 05:56:16 pm »
I think i'd like Shipwrecker against Earth, as we need to run something SoP against someone, and that seems like the most solid option other than Aether.

I agree with Spiel about running Nymphs vs Entropy

Personally with the other two i'd say Grabbow against Air, with Toadmare against Aether.
Alternatively a sort of poison bow against Aether and a domin against Air.
Third option: entropy domin with BE vs aether and grabbow vs air
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Re: Round 7 - Main Topic https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60395.msg1214247#msg1214247
« Reply #7 on: November 09, 2015, 09:41:40 pm »
Can we consider suiciding against Aether? It's honestly a lost cause, we blew the best chance we had to beat them in 3 wars with that deflag splash and we're not likely to get another good opportunity, I'd much rather focus on making the other decks as strong as possible to have a remote chance.
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No!  :o Plz dont suicide... we can win.
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Re: Round 7 - Main Topic https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60395.msg1214254#msg1214254
« Reply #9 on: November 09, 2015, 11:05:06 pm »
I think we should build the other 3 decks first, and see where we are at against aether with regards to vault capabilities once those 3 decks are nailed on.

This is the period of war which i think we can find really enjoyable. I don't think people will expect us to still have shipwrecker or SoP Wardens, and I also think we have a few suprises with eternity (which can lock someone down on its own, though not this round) and a few other bits and pieces. Each victory at this point will be a mini-win in itself, so we should take as much pride and pleasure in them as we can.

I do think that suiciding against aether is an option, but only if we feel we can't build a deck against anything they are likely to send against us.

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Re: Round 7 - Main Topic https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60395.msg1214260#msg1214260
« Reply #10 on: November 09, 2015, 11:47:15 pm »
I fully agree on 2 decks recommended so far:

Shipwrecker vs. Earth
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Nymph/Bolts vs. Entropy.

These both are solid decks that we're still able to fully run without any heavy mods, and are quite frankly, 2 of our strongest decks.

Air will bring wings, or UGs. We need to run some type of deck that includes dragons.

Suiciding vs Aether should be an option IF AND ONLY IF we have no other options after building these 3 decks.
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Re: Round 7 - Main Topic https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60395.msg1214272#msg1214272
« Reply #11 on: November 10, 2015, 01:04:35 am »
Shipwrecker is a good deck, but it's not a good deck in war. The way war tends to work actually makes Shipwrecker pretty subpar in its environment, and we're limited to a gimped version of it, not the full-strength version of it I used. If we want to use pulvy, we should consider a graboid/pulvy/QT mercbow instead.

Nymphbolts vs entropy sounds like a good plan though. Sending all our dragons against air in some form of domin sounds good too, whether it be toadmare or something with deflag.
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