Round 5

[JonathanCrazyJ]

Schedule

Deckbuilding Duel phase has started

Duels Fighting ends!

JCJ vs Timdood: Sunday 7pm GMT

Match-Ups



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Decks

This will be updated as we discuss, and then with the final decks that have been put in the vault. However, when it comes to your match, take your deck directly FROM THE VAULT, not from here, and not from any other save file, or building in game.

Spoiler for JCJ Gen vs Life:

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4vj 5fu 5fu 5fu 5jm 5jm 5jm 5jm 5jm 5jm 5j2 5j2 5j2 5j2 5j2 786 786 786 786 786 786 7ee 7gn 7gn 7hi 7gs 7nq 7nq 7nq 7nq 8pm

Spoiler for Manuel Merc 4 Relics vs Darkness:

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Spoiler for Ginyu Upgrades vs Time:

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Spoiler for Spielkind Lt vs Light:

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Spoiler for RR Sideboard vs Aether:

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Salvage and Discard

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Discard 12+6

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Salvage 6

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[RavingRabbid]

Ughaether again f-----

[JonathanCrazyJ]

going to do in-deck discards first this round, and see what we can save, we can tweak later on if needed, then work out from-vault discards later.

a)
-3 flayer (9)
-1 dragon (11)
-2 fractal (2)
-3 SoP (14)
-3 Squid (13)

b)
-4 toads (13)
-3 steal (3)
-1 Vagger (4)
-1 Nightmare (2)
-5 crawler (10)

c)
-4 SoP (15)
-3 Oty (0)
-3 SoFo (4)
-3 squid (14)
-1 GP (2)

d)
-4 warden (4)
-3 gemfinder (5)
-2 pulvy (0)
-3 SoP (15)
-2 Squid (14)

This way, we can keep all decks (though only able to play 1 dark deck at a time, and lose pulvies. We still have enough squids and SoP to run 3 to 4 concurrent SoP decks too.

[JonathanCrazyJ]

OK. I think we can survive the previous round. If we can get through this one with a decent record, which i think is achieveable, things could get much easier. I therefore think we should be generous with relics this round if need be.

intitial thoughts:

: they are struggling atm. i feel we probably have something that counters everything they have left, possibly AM flooding, or predict a stall and go cata titans.
: assholes. Keep ruining everything. either they will go for eternity + cc again or they'll stallbreak imo, possibly patient scarabs again. Void Dials maybe, or Dims fractal?
: Might see fire stall, if not i think most of their other non-domin decks are probably toast, so Dims Fractal could do well again here, or Void again!
: not much of an idea, shard golem could be worth testing
: annoyingly i expect heavy CC here too... what about AM flooding? :O could be fun....

[Manuel]

tomorrow i will have enough time to test things, i will try starting with a run against  aaaand 

[Manuel]

mmm seems like cygnia doesn't work, wasn't serpex the host?

if i open cygnia, i get this

ENOENT: no such file or directory, open 'cia/index.html'

[JonathanCrazyJ]

mmm seems like cygnia doesn't work, wasn't serpex the host?

if i open cygnia, i get this

ENOENT: no such file or directory, open 'cia/index.html'

use this: http://etg.dek.im/vanilla/index.html

[Manuel]

shard golem vs 

vs phoenix thing LT. 4-1
vs devtal gen 4-1, all is based on my first draw
vs mondark dragon/nightmare 1-4, without nightmare is easy outrush the deck

autolose (80%) against am pande, vd rip off, patient squids
autowin (80%) against drainbolt
(didn't test)

too lazy to play against  stall, like against  the deck is too slow to do anything, should be another 4-1 or 5-0 for us

will test vs aether later

[JonathanCrazyJ]

OK after talking with RR in chat, I'd like to test this set of choices:

 : Cata Titans
 : AM Flooding
 : Speed Poison
 : Void Dials
 : Dev/Poseidon

[RavingRabbid]

[13:59:32] RavingRabbid [»] JonathanCrazyJ: I for some reason expect the void deck from time
[14:00:05] JonathanCrazyJ [»] RavingRabbid: yeah i think we should bring something that stands up to that
[14:00:51] RavingRabbid [»] JonathanCrazyJ: I don't know what to expect from life, their vault looks mostly empty at this point
[14:00:52] JonathanCrazyJ [»] RavingRabbid: maybe speed poison again
[14:01:31] RavingRabbid [»] JonathanCrazyJ: I wouldn't go with poison, i expect a generic duo, maybe wings.
[14:01:53] JonathanCrazyJ [»] RavingRabbid: no i meant speed poison for Time
[14:02:41] RavingRabbid [»] JonathanCrazyJ: I expect light to use their remaining deck on us
[14:04:14] JonathanCrazyJ [»] RavingRabbid: to be fair, both light and life still have around 170 cards
[14:04:15] RavingRabbid [»] JonathanCrazyJ: I mean from the ones from last round.
[14:04:26] RavingRabbid [»] JonathanCrazyJ: I don't see wherever else Light would use that deck, and they have to use it
[14:04:41] JonathanCrazyJ [»] RavingRabbid: mmm maybe
[14:04:48] JonathanCrazyJ [»] RavingRabbid: Cata Titan again?
[14:06:08] RavingRabbid [»] JonathanCrazyJ: Are Vampires airborne?
[14:06:22] JonathanCrazyJ [»] RavingRabbid: yes
[14:06:30] RavingRabbid [»] JonathanCrazyJ: dAmmit
[14:07:47] RavingRabbid [»] JonathanCrazyJ: I was thinking of running some sort of wtfbow against darknes
[14:08:07] JonathanCrazyJ [»] RavingRabbid: ooo i like that
[14:08:20] RavingRabbid [»] JonathanCrazyJ: With a 1 of Wings in.
[14:08:25] JonathanCrazyJ [»] RavingRabbid: means we can't use cata titans elsewhere though
[14:08:54] JonathanCrazyJ [»] RavingRabbid: all darkness creatures fly except dev
[14:09:07] RavingRabbid [»] JonathanCrazyJ: Graboids.
[14:09:41] RavingRabbid [»] JonathanCrazyJ: Yeah no maybe it's a bad idea the 1 of of wings
[14:10:13] JonathanCrazyJ [»] RavingRabbid: also they might steal the SoP which would be bad
[14:11:06] RavingRabbid [»] JonathanCrazyJ: wtfbow doesn't need much more than one of two good sop turn. were they to steal sop, unless it's the vampsquid deck, they'd be slowed down on damage
[14:11:17] RavingRabbid [»] JonathanCrazyJ: Perhaps we should also prepare for vampsquids
[14:11:25] RavingRabbid [»] JonathanCrazyJ: I was thinking of running void vs aether again
[14:11:37] JonathanCrazyJ [»] RavingRabbid: yeah i like void vs aether
[14:11:42] JonathanCrazyJ [»] RavingRabbid: maybe use a few relics
[14:12:14] RavingRabbid [»] JonathanCrazyJ: They do have the 3.5 days deck but I don't think they'll run that vs us
[14:12:32] JonathanCrazyJ [»] RavingRabbid: hahaha
[14:13:01] RavingRabbid [»] JonathanCrazyJ: wtfbow against darkness should be tested tbh
[14:13:08] JonathanCrazyJ [»] RavingRabbid: yeah
[14:14:30] JonathanCrazyJ [»] RavingRabbid: i'll test that later, what other options?
[14:14:39] RavingRabbid [»] JonathanCrazyJ: Rainbow Nymphs again
[14:15:02] JonathanCrazyJ [»] RavingRabbid: yeah, bit worried about it getting rekt by drainbolt again though

[JonathanCrazyJ]

i made 2 exciting things:

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both do well against darkness, Damseltal slightly better of the two, though may struggle vs devtal JUST TESTED AND GOT 8-2 VS DEVTAL! The quanta from damsels delays dev lockdown just long enough for a fractal. Be careful with when playing SoP in case of steal though. DEFFO running this against darkness now.

Damseltal vs Darkness:
Devtal: 8-2
It's a Trap: (possibly dead): 6-4
Drainbolt: 6-4 (MUST hold back at least 1 damselfly until you can fractal)

[Manuel]

speed poison vs 

blessed scorpions: 3-0 totally rekted, no hopes other than a perfect draw for them and a no pillar start for us
patient scarabs 3-2 both loss against perfect rt+sor and no wall for speed poison
vs pugons 3-0 the only hope for them is that we bottom deck all the chysa and bones
vs  0-3 no hopes
vs chaos dunes 4-1, but for chaos dunes is so easy play a turn 2 scorpion, i was probably lucky
vs immo gas 3-0 no hopes
vs gotp, lighting and spiders 1-4 fuck this shit
vs ghostmare 0-5, even with a second turn squid ghostmare has too many rewind and our deck lack rush potential