Round 4

[JonathanCrazyJ]

Spiel, you can test decks playing both sides of the field.

-Go here to oetg http://etg.dek.im/vanilla/ and open it in two tabs,
-then put your deck in one and the AI deck in the other
-Type the same word next to where it says "pvp" in the top right corner
-Click the PVP button in both tabs

Now you can test by yourself!

[JonathanCrazyJ]

sure youre right, but i dont like tinker the element  playing against... will test.

I think the two most likely decks we will face are DBH and Cata Titan

DBH (the build they used last time): 4-6 (this is much worse than in other versions tested pre-war, so you might have a point...)
Cata Titan: 4-1 Sofo is OP, only an amazing draw by them or a missplay with SoFo can cause a loss.

So, I had another look at patience bow. We can't run the full version, but a 50% in element version is actually pretty good. here's what I have so far:

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Against
DBH: 5-0
CataDials: 2-3, explosions OP

I think we should either run Tinker SoFo and counter Titan, or Patient bow with -discards and counter DBH.

Alternatively we could run shard golems here, and then make something else for air

[JonathanCrazyJ]

OK, spiel and i spent a long time today testing for the gravity match.
I feel the most likely decks for them to send against us are DBH, catatitan or death duo(bonewall,  sofo, rush)

Our Sofo Tinker was good against Cata Titans, ~35% against their DBH and really bad against death.
The nova patience i linked was good against DBH, ~35% against cata titans and really bad against death.

So I built a high quanta mono rush.

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DBH: roughly 60% winrate
cata titan: roughtly 60% winrate
mono death: roughly 60% winrate

I think we will run this with -discards if nobody objects.

[Spielkind]

Still think 1 or 2 bolts could be the winner but im ok with it!

[JonathanCrazyJ]

how does this look?

-2 flooding(11)
-2 mindflayer(12)
-4 fractal(4*)
-3 ice bolt(8*)
-1 dragon(12*)
-1 crawler(15)

+3 wings
+1 Shockwave
+1transmute dragon
+1transmute dragon
+2transmute ice bolt
+4 fractal
+1 steal
+1 vagger
+1transmute purify
+1transmute nymph queen
+1transmute dry spell

+7 relics


Actually Spiel you might have a point, we could run toads and bolts to take out Otys. Will re-build and retest now

[JonathanCrazyJ]

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DBH 7-3
Titan 4-6
Death Duo 4-6

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DBH 8-2
Titan 1-9
Death Duo 4-6

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DBH 5-5 (expected worse with Otys involved. If Oty wasn't in the deck this swings slightly in our favour
Titan: 10-0
death Duo: 2-8

So unless we expect Titan specifically, the mono is probably the answer. Good call on the Ice Bolts. You can have 1 ice bolt, but we really need a dry spell in case of gravy shield imo. It's easy for them to splash one.

[Ginyu]

Air's worst dreams are going to come true soon...

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As Air is going to face Fire and Death Gen., we expect Wise Wyrms and SoFree mono to go their way there. With this in mind, this deck works quite well against what they are likely to field otherwise: Adrena-Staves and Patient Squids. JCJ and I tested both matchups, we got a good matchup on Staves with ~60%, and win quite easily against Squids with ~80%, as we can overwhelm early enemy Squids with fractalling our own (or even Flayers just in case).
We are obviously blown out if we do see SoW or SoFree, but then this deck has nothing too bad to lose. UG could still end up in a race which we could get lucky, although the matchup won't be great. The Dragon is a surprise if they feel like packing Wings, which ends up in a great win condition with Fractal.

Salvage boost because we are too good to not take it... er as there is nothing else left that would be better.

[Spielkind]

its sooooo hard... that deck with more tears would better for deathduo but need crawler for dbh... not sure about 6? 4 better? so can 2 more upped quanta and 1 tear and 1 bolt more? grrrr that makes me crazy.

edit: ok let it, my changes makes it not better...

[JonathanCrazyJ]

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DBH: 6-4
CataTitan: 5-0
Grabbow: 4-1
Death: 3-7

Sending this instead and changing air deck to -discards. I think grabbow is a possibility to counter dev/poseidon, and they might want to send their death deck against fire.

[JonathanCrazyJ]

by the way, when you know your match times can you post them in this thread so I can update the OP and it lets me know if I have to contact other teams generals about a sub

Other than that, the vault should be finished

[Spielkind]

Saturday guess around 14GMT but no real time till now.

[Ginyu]

@Salvage: I checked if a Damsel was better than a Shockwave, but we got a double pack for 2 wtf bows already. So, agree with everything there.

Vault checked, everything alright.