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Round 3 - Salvaging, Discarding, Penalties, Converting. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15655.msg200508#msg200508
« on: November 13, 2010, 08:37:02 pm »
Salvaging

5xMonumentum
1xGravity Shield
5xDimensional Shields
1xFractal
3xGraboids
3xTime Pillars

Discarding
6xFreeze
50xWater Pendulums
5xDimensional Shields
3xFractal
2xAether Pillar
4xPurify
4xArctic Squid
2xNymph Tears
2xButterfly Effect
1xIce Shield
1xAntimatter
1xEarthquake
1xMind Flayer
5xSteam Machine
6xToadfish
1xLightning
1xForest Spirit
3xIce Dragon
4xWater Pillars
5xPhoenixes
1xChrysaora

Penalties

(6 cards (substituting Essence with 5pla5h.))

2xAdrenaline
2xQuintessence
1xForest Scorpion
1xForest Spirit

Converting

x1 Phoenix -> x1 Pendulum
x1 Steam Machine -> x1 Pendulum
x2 Longsword -> x2 Pillar
x3 Time Factory -> x3 Pendulum
x2 Gravity Pulls -> x2 Pendulum
x1 Druidic Staff -> x1 Pendulum
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Re: Round 3 - Salvaging, Discarding, Penalties, Converting. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15655.msg200518#msg200518
« Reply #1 on: November 13, 2010, 08:48:28 pm »
i'm that good soul :). Here are the losses, -18 per.
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And the decks we can salvage from. +6 per.

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Re: Round 3 - Salvaging, Discarding, Penalties, Converting. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15655.msg200935#msg200935
« Reply #2 on: November 14, 2010, 11:40:04 am »
Well, I think we should think a different way this round, mainly not by thinking what cards we can miss, but by thinking what cards we can miss more by others.

I'm saying, it might be better to discard two whole deck ideas, and disable them for the rest of the war (unless we are really lucky and get to salvage them back), then to cripple all our decks.

So, we can save 8 decks (239 cards, so one double card, but we only have to use 7 (or 6 this round) of them).

What decks do we want to save?

I was thinking:
1 speed poison
1 winged toads with shockwaves
1 light stall
1 dim shield stall
1 steam machine deck
1 entropy deck (so not two)
1 waterbow (and not entropy/water).
1 trident stall

We are a little lucky this round, because salvaging/discarding is easier, due to the ability to salvage a few cards, and discard them (wings/dimension shield).
Also, we can discard pendulums and pillars, because we only have to field 6 decks, instead of 9. And we can salvage some cards and convert them right away, OR we can try to make an water/gravity deck, by salvaging some more cards from the dune scorpion deck we faced. We could get a gravity shield, a few momentum and the gravity pulls we already salvaged, to make a new surprising deck.
I think we should salvage and keep one or maybe two graboid(s) for sure, because it/they can be really helpfull in our rainbow.
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Re: Round 3 - Salvaging, Discarding, Penalties, Converting. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15655.msg201226#msg201226
« Reply #3 on: November 14, 2010, 09:17:00 pm »
Well, I think we should think a different way this round, mainly not by thinking what cards we can miss, but by thinking what cards we can miss more by others.

I'm saying, it might be better to discard two whole deck ideas, and disable them for the rest of the war (unless we are really lucky and get to salvage them back), then to cripple all our decks.

So, we can save 8 decks (239 cards, so one double card, but we only have to use 7 (or 6 this round) of them).

What decks do we want to save?

I was thinking:
1 speed poison
1 winged toads with shockwaves
1 light stall
1 dim shield stall
1 steam machine deck
1 entropy deck (so not two)
1 waterbow (and not entropy/water).
1 trident stall

We are a little lucky this round, because salvaging/discarding is easier, due to the ability to salvage a few cards, and discard them (wings/dimension shield).
Also, we can discard pendulums and pillars, because we only have to field 6 decks, instead of 9. And we can salvage some cards and convert them right away, OR we can try to make an water/gravity deck, by salvaging some more cards from the dune scorpion deck we faced. We could get a gravity shield, a few momentum and the gravity pulls we already salvaged, to make a new surprising deck.
I think we should salvage and keep one or maybe two graboid(s) for sure, because it/they can be really helpfull in our rainbow.
we can salvage some cool stuff for water bow like graboids.
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Re: Round 3 - Salvaging, Discarding, Penalties, Converting. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15655.msg201252#msg201252
« Reply #4 on: November 14, 2010, 09:50:10 pm »
we can salvage some cool stuff for water bow like graboids.
To quote myself:

(..)

I think we should salvage and keep one or maybe two graboid(s) for sure, because it/they can be really helpfull in our rainbow.
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Re: Round 3 - Salvaging, Discarding, Penalties, Converting. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15655.msg201733#msg201733
« Reply #5 on: November 15, 2010, 04:23:26 pm »
I'm compiling a list, using decks dictator would save.

At this point:


6xFreeze
47xWater Pends (This would leave us with 36 pends, enough)?
5xDim Shields (Resalvaging them.)
3xFractal (Resalvaging one.)
2xAether Pillar
4xPurify
4xArctic Squid
2xNymph Tears
2xButterfly Effect
1xIce Shield
1xAntimatter
1xEarthquake
1xMind Flayer
5xSteam Machine
6xToadfish
1xLightning
1xForest Spirit
3xIce Dragon
4xWater Pillars
5xPhoenixes



We would reobtain some Pends/Pillars through converting.

My idea for remaining salvages is:

4xGrabbys
2xRandom Cards to convert



2xReverse Times (For a Novabow) (Or to convert, since Grabbys require time.)
4xRandom Cards to convert
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