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Round 2 - Salvaging, Discarding, Penalties and Converting https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15158.msg193519#msg193519
« on: November 04, 2010, 09:46:25 pm »
Round 2 - Salvaging, Discarding, Penalties and Converting


Salvaging
2x Gravity Pull
2x Adrenaline
2x Heal

Discarding
4x Adrenaline
10x Ice Bolt
2x Poison
6x Freeze
4x Blue Crawler
14x Water Pillar
2x Arctic Squid
5x Toadfish
12x Water Pendulum
3x Trident
1x Dim Shield
1x Fractal
2x Purify
2x MindGate
4x Deflag

Penalties

Converting
2x Heal into 2x Water Pendulum
3x Poison into 3x Water Pendulum
4x MindGate into 4x Water Pendulum
2x Water Pillar into 1x Water Pendulum
1x Mind Flayer into 1x Water Pendulum



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Re: Round 2 - Salvaging, Discarding, Penalties and Converting https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15158.msg193539#msg193539
« Reply #1 on: November 04, 2010, 09:58:58 pm »
OK, uptaded with all water matches until now:

Salvage 6 of:

Essence vs 918273645
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55k 55k 55n 55n 55n 55n 55n 55n 55s 55s 55t 55t 576 576 576 576 576 576 5c2 5c2 5c2 5c2 5c2 5c2 5c7 5c7 5c7 5c7 5c7 5c7

Discard 12 of:
Keal Hate vs. RavingRabbid
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5bs 5bs 5bs 5bs 5c1 5c1 5c1 5c5 5c7 5c7 5c7 5c7 5c8 5c8 5c8 5c8 5i6 5i6 5i6 5ig 5ig 5jm 5jm 5jm 5jm 5jm 5jm 5jm 5jm 5jm 5jm 5jm
coinich vs. thedictator
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592 592 593 593 593 593 5i4 5i4 5i9 5i9 5ic 5ic 5ic 5id 5id 5ie 5ie 5ie 5ie 5ie 5jm 5jm 5jm 5jm 5jm 5jm 5jm 5jm 5jm 5jm 5jm
xdude vs. vinvick
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5i8 5i8 5i8 5i8 5i8 5i8 5ia 5ia 5id 5jm 5jm 5jm 5jm 5jm 5jm 5jm 5jm 5jm 5jm 5jm 5jm 5lg 61t 61t 61t 61t 61t 61t 622 623 623 623 623 623
xuru vs. wavedash
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5f6 5f6 5f6 5fc 5fc 5fc 5i4 5i4 5i4 5i4 5i8 5i8 5i8 5i8 5i8 5i8 5i9 5i9 5ia 5ia 5ii 5ii 5ii 5ii 5jm 5jm 5jm 5jm 5jm 5jm 5jm 5jm 5jm 5jm 5jm

Win, but no salvaging:
Bluesky (subbed by me) vs. willng3
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4vi 4vi 4vi 4vi 4vi 4vi 4vl 4vl 4vl 5bu 5bu 5bu 5bu 5bu 5bu 5c2 5c2 5c7 5c7 5c7 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de
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Re: Round 2 - Salvaging, Discarding, Penalties and Converting https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15158.msg193544#msg193544
« Reply #2 on: November 04, 2010, 10:02:30 pm »
ideas for the salvage match(s) (i know we won 1 other):
2 titans
4 pendulums
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Re: Round 2 - Salvaging, Discarding, Penalties and Converting https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15158.msg194241#msg194241
« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2010, 06:54:57 pm »
i lost and expected it.
said it to dictator to a lot of this decks were BAD,srry to say but i'm pretty pissed about some stuff.
told this before to they'd lose,and i was right again.
bad decks = bad losses = bad games and bad ROUNDS
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Re: Round 2 - Salvaging, Discarding, Penalties and Converting https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15158.msg194342#msg194342
« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2010, 09:09:18 pm »
i lost and expected it.
said it to dictator to a lot of this decks were BAD,srry to say but i'm pretty pissed about some stuff.
told this before to they'd lose,and i was right again.
bad decks = bad losses = bad games and bad ROUNDS
Some of them could have gone either way.

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Re: Round 2 - Salvaging, Discarding, Penalties and Converting https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15158.msg194387#msg194387
« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2010, 10:30:53 pm »
Hey, nils, if you'd like to put in the work and make decks for everyone, or you have a better idea for how to get it done, go for it.  I freely take the blame for this round, but the fact is that we've got a lot of debate and not a lot of people making decisions -- and we don't have time to do things that way.  Three days is not enough time for a lot of back-and-forth. 

Like I said, feel free to take over next round; it's all you.
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Re: Round 2 - Salvaging, Discarding, Penalties and Converting https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15158.msg194720#msg194720
« Reply #6 on: November 06, 2010, 04:49:47 am »
Hey, nils, if you'd like to put in the work and make decks for everyone, or you have a better idea for how to get it done, go for it.  I freely take the blame for this round, but the fact is that we've got a lot of debate and not a lot of people making decisions -- and we don't have time to do things that way.  Three days is not enough time for a lot of back-and-forth. 

Like I said, feel free to take over next round; it's all you.
that's ok but srry from this round,father of my best friend killed himself and i've been really busy with that :(....
that's why i didn't had time this round for making and testing decks
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Re: Round 2 - Salvaging, Discarding, Penalties and Converting https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15158.msg195963#msg195963
« Reply #7 on: November 07, 2010, 08:04:24 pm »
We also discard 12 from:

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4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vn 4vn 4vn 4vn 4vn 4vn 52o 52o 5i4 5i4 5i4 5i4 5i7 5i7 5i7 5i7 5i7 5i7 5i8 5i8 5i8 5i8 5i8 5i8 5jm 5jm 5jm 5jm 5jm 5jm 5jm 5jm 5lg 5on 61q
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5i4 5i4 5i4 5i4 5ib 5ib 5ie 5ie 5ie 5ie 5ie 5jm 5jm 5jm 5jm 5jm 5jm 5jm 5jm 5on 5on 5on 5on 5oo 5oo 5oo 5oo 6rk 6rk 7gm

So... I'd Salvage:



x4 Adrenaline
x2 Gravity Pull

Gravity Pulls are the surprise. In a nova-bow, gravity pull could be splashed as different Creature Control.


Discard:

x4 Adrenaline (see what I did there?)
x4 Forest Scorpions
x2 Nymph Tears
x2 Water Pendulums


x3 Earthquake
x3 Trident
x2 Arctic Dragon
x4 Water Pendulums


---insert other discards---
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Re: Round 2 - Salvaging, Discarding, Penalties and Converting https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15158.msg196011#msg196011
« Reply #8 on: November 07, 2010, 09:03:34 pm »
We also discard 12 from:

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4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vn 4vn 4vn 4vn 4vn 4vn 52o 52o 5i4 5i4 5i4 5i4 5i7 5i7 5i7 5i7 5i7 5i7 5i8 5i8 5i8 5i8 5i8 5i8 5jm 5jm 5jm 5jm 5jm 5jm 5jm 5jm 5lg 5on 61q
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5i4 5i4 5i4 5i4 5ib 5ib 5ie 5ie 5ie 5ie 5ie 5jm 5jm 5jm 5jm 5jm 5jm 5jm 5jm 5on 5on 5on 5on 5oo 5oo 5oo 5oo 6rk 6rk 7gm

So... I'd Salvage:



x4 Adrenaline
x2 Gravity Pull

Gravity Pulls are the surprise. In a nova-bow, gravity pull could be splashed as different Creature Control.


Discard:

x4 Adrenaline (see what I did there?)
x4 Forest Scorpions
x2 Nymph Tears
x2 Water Pendulums


x3 Earthquake
x3 Trident
x2 Arctic Dragon
x4 Water Pendulums


---insert other discards---
I don't think we should consider the discards, before we have built the majority of the decks. That way, we are a lot more sure we don't discards we wanted to keep.
And, Unit, you have to change the big text, it still says round 1 ;)
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Re: Round 2 - Salvaging, Discarding, Penalties and Converting https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15158.msg198112#msg198112
« Reply #9 on: November 10, 2010, 04:47:21 pm »
unit i really hope you come back before deck building phase ends we need to do this discards/salvages!!!
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Re: Round 2 - Salvaging, Discarding, Penalties and Converting https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15158.msg198118#msg198118
« Reply #10 on: November 10, 2010, 04:56:14 pm »
unit i really hope you come back before deck building phase ends we need to do this discards/salvages!!!
Can't you beg SG for moderator rights other wise I realised we can't update.

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Re: Round 2 - Salvaging, Discarding, Penalties and Converting https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15158.msg198125#msg198125
« Reply #11 on: November 10, 2010, 05:02:47 pm »
unit i really hope you come back before deck building phase ends we need to do this discards/salvages!!!
Can't you beg SG for moderator rights other wise I realised we can't update.
still waiting for them :(
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