Round 1 - Salvaging, Discarding, Penalties and Converting

[Essence]

thunderbolts, not thunderstorms

[wavedash]

Propaganda Suggestions So Far:

2x Wings
2-4x Morning Star
4x Stone Skin
6x Entropy Pendulum
6x Fire Pendulum
6x Bone Pillar

Consensus Reached On:

2x Mirror Shield



My two cents:

Mirror Shield is a good idea. We can then run a deck basically the same as Ryan666's from the first round, Light / Water stall, without having to rely on Mindgate to copy a reflecting shield if our opponent has any.

Four Stone Skins is too many. They take a lot of Earth quanta to be effective, and we don't have any Stone Dragons to use the rest of it, basically crippling ourselves with 50% Water quanta production and the chance that we aren't killed before we can throw out some Skins. I'd say zero, personally.

[Essence]

Agreed on the mirror shields.  We could even slip one into the Mindgate Stall that vinvick will kick xdude's butt with -- he's sure to Mindgate enough quanta to cast a single Mirror Shield in time to Bolt xdude to death even if he doesn't actually Mindgate a Mirror Shield from xdude himself.

[Essence]

OK, after going through and looking at deckbuilding options, and building decks for everyone to ponder, I'm about to make a final decision on:

2x Mirror Shield
2x Morning Glory
6x Nova  (to get around Devourer denial and give us the opportunity to use wetbow decks as we have to salvage more in coming rounds)

Any objections?

[wavedash]

That's two people who like Glories (three including me). I'm not sure about Novae. They're nice, but I think there might be better cards we could take, like... uh. I don't know. I guess they're good. Graboids to go with them?

[RavingRabbid]

Ok, going to update Vault (since miniwally can't).

We discard what Essence suggested?

[tyranim]

sorry about that, my mom broke her toe and i had to help her out for the day, which means no school, which means no internet.

[Vinvick3714]

Yeah Rav, I think we should discard what he said.

[tyranim]

updated

any objections/mistakes?

[wavedash]

I hope it's not too late, but I think we should take a couple Earth Pillars (literally 2, maybe 3) to make us less vulnerable to Earthquake.

[the dictator]

Were do you want to get those?

From propaganda I assume?

O and RR, I think you should wait a few hours with updating the vault, as I will do the play testing of the the next hours, and if a deck has trouble, we might want to adjust it, and it would be a shame if we just discarded the necessary cards.

Ok, I finished testing.

Something that need to be fixed.

Errors when using these decks:

Using 81 of 72 water pendulumUsing 6 of 5 dimension shieldUsing 3 of 2 reflective shield

Possible solutions:
Convert some cards to pendulums (I think we should do: 2x Earthquake (6 is useless), 2x Fractal (same), 2x Miracle (same), 3 Mind Flayer (they aren't that usefull))
Salvage one more dimension shield, instead of something else (I was thinking aether pillar).
Get one more reflective shield for propaganda.

So we need to fix these, or take them out of the deck.
O, and for the propaganda cards that are left, I would like some stone skins, as a trident stall will get lots of excess earth quanta, so why not make those usefull.

[the dictator]

Discarding

I think I'm finished with the decks, so we can decide what cards to discard.

The cards left in the vault are:
Cards Left:

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4vc 4vc 4vc 4vj 4vj 4vl 4vl 4vl 4vo 4vo 52o 52o 52o 52o 52o 52o 52o 52o 52o 52o 52q 52q 52q 592 593 593 5bs 5bs 5bs 5bs 5c1 5c1 5c1 5c7 5c7 5c7 5c7 5c8 5c8 5f6 5f6 5f6 5fc 5fc 5fc 5i5 5i5 5i5 5i5 5i5 5i5 5i5 5i5 5i5 5i5 5i5 5i5 5i5 5i6 5i6

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5if 5if 5if 5if 5if 5if 5if 5ig 5ig 5ih 5ih 5ih 5ii 5ii 5li 5li 5on 5on 5on 5on 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61q 621 621 621 622 622 622 622 623We have to discards 6 cards from the following decks:

Underlined = Essence suggestion, Italic = My suggestion

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3x Freeze, 2x Toadfish, 1x Ice Bolt, 3x Freeze, 2x Toadfish, 1x Ice Shield

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5i4 5i4 5i4 5i4 5i4 5i4 5i4 5i4 5i4 5i4 5i4 5i4 5i7 5i7 5i7 5i7 5i7 5i7 5id 5id 5id 5ie 5ie 5ie 5ie 5ie 5ie 7gm 7gm 7gm
3x Dragon, 3x Crawler, 2x Freeze, 2x Dragon, 2x Crawler

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5i4 5i4 5i4 5i4 5i4 5i4 5i4 5ib 5ib 5ib 5ib 5id 5id 5id 5id 5if 5if 5if 5jm 5jm 5jm 5jm 5jm 5jm 5jm 621 621 621 621 621 621
2x Dragon, 2x Flayer, 2x Squid, 2x squid, 1x dragon, 3x flayer

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52o 52o 52o 52o 52o 52q 52q 5i5 5i5 5i5 5i5 5i5 5i9 5i9 5ib 5ib 5ih 5ih 5jm 5jm 5jm 5jm 5jm 5jm 5jm 5jm 5jm 5jm 5jm 5jm
5x Chrysaroa, 1x Flooding, 5x Chrysaora, 1x Poison

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4t4 4t4 5i4 5i4 5i7 5i7 5i7 5i7 5i7 5i8 5i8 5i8 5i8 5i8 5i8 5i9 5i9 5jm 5jm 5jm 5jm 5jm 5jm 5jm 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 623 623 623
1x Short Sword, 5x Freeze, 5x Freeze, 1x Ice Shield

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5i4 5i4 5i4 5i4 5i4 5i4 5i4 5i4 5i4 5i4 5i4 5i4 5i7 5i7 5i7 5jm 5jm 5jm 5id 5id 5id 5id 5ie 5ie 5ie 5ie 5ie 5on 5on 5on
3x Dragon, 3x Toadfish, 3x Dragon, 3x Toadfish

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52o 52o 52o 52o 52o 52o 52q 5i5 5i5 5i5 5i5 5i5 5i5 5i8 5i8 5i8 5i8 5i8 5i9 5i9 5jm 5jm 5jm 5jm 5jm 5jm 5jm 5jm 5jm 5jm
2x Ice Shield, 4x Chrysaora, 6x Chrysoara