Round 1 - Main Topic

[ddevans96]

Current Vault:
This is a more accurate representation of our "Vault". When we build decks, we take cards out of the Standing Vault, and when we finish using the cards, they go back in.
This gives us a better idea of what we actually have available to use.

Spoiler for Cards:

In Element: 55x Water Pillar 64x Water Pendulum 6x Chyrsaora 14x Crawler 5x Freeze 14x Ice Bolt 9x Ice Shield 9x Purify 9x Arctic Squid 8x Trident 7x Dragon 13x Toadfish 2x Mind Flayer 10x Tears 0x Flooding 8x Steammie 4x Dry Spell 8x Queen

Out of Element A: 2x Hammer 2x Amethyst Pillar 3x Entropy Pendulum 2x Lycanthrope 9x Nova 4x Discord 3x Arsenic 3x Bone Wall 3x Gravity Pillar 3x Gravity Pendulum 3x Charger 3x Gravity Shield 4x Otyugh 8x Graboid 6x Basilisk Blood 2x Forest Spirit

Out of Element B: 7x Deflagration 3x Immolation 3x Rage Potion 4x Morning Star 6x Miracle 9x Sanctuary 3x Wind Pillar 3x Wind Pendulum 2x Fog Shield 3x Thunderstorm 5x Owl's Eye 7x Shockwave 6x Reverse Time 4x Sundial 3x Steal 2x Stiletto 5x Nightmare 6x Lightning 5x Parallel Universe 9x Dim Shield 3x Fractal 2x Silence

Matchups:
This is a list of our matches and what decks we are using for them. We want to decide our decks before finalizing our salvages and discards, rather than the reverse.

14	Gen. ddevans96	CCCombobreaker
7	Legit	Gen. MegroN
8	Malignant	Scaramanga
11	Spielkind	DeathKnyte
32	rob77dp	pwconfirm
10	treebeard xiii	RavingRabbid

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General ddevans96 vs

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Lieutenant Legit vs

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Malignant vs

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Spielkind vs

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rob77dp vs

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treebeard_xiii vs

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Salvaging and Discarding:
This is a list of decks we need to salvage or discard cards from. We need to first accommodate the decks we want to use this round before deciding other salvages.
Cards salvaged or saved from losing decks go back into the Current Vault.

Spoiler for Salvages:

None, because it's round one.

Spoiler for Discards:

None, because it's round one.

Conversions/Transmutations/Penalties:
When we're done with everything else we can decide which cards we want to convert. This way we don't randomly convert cards we might need this round.

Spoiler for Required: X:

[ddevans96]

Countdowns:
Deckbuilding: Duel phase has started
Battles: Fighting ends!

Event Card:

Create a post in your secret board listing, for each match your team is playing, how much you bet & whether you're betting on a win or a loss. You are not betting on the W-L result. You are only betting on your team's 6 matches. Bet for each of match must be 3, 6, or 9 cards. Bets are compulsory. Discards for lost bets will be taken from the vault, not the deck used in the matchup. You do not need to specify which cards you are betting, just how many. You do not lose any cards for correct bets. -click on the event card to expand it, and again to retract it-

Notes:
Round Thread: >link<

[ddevans96]

Updated with matchups, countdowns, and event card. Vault will be added to this thread shortly.

So, we get one general, two players that have been on water before, and no aether. Should be an interesting first round, here.

I'm not a huge fan of this event card, but it's managable.

We should make Legit lieutenant, to stand a better chance against Meg - or, if we think we have a counter or no chance, we can send it elsewhere.

[rob77dp]

*** As I ponder/think/mull the round and matchups and have discussion among ourselves, I will be editing/modifying and otherwise completing this set of my thoughts on Round 1 ***

dd vs CCC
Do we predict Air bringing PC-based UG power here?  If so, this could be a good time to unleash the reflect-stall...

Legit vs Gen. Meg
Against Earth everybody always fears the mighty Earthquake in War matches.  If we think EQ is coming, then a Grabbow works here - however Earth is aware of the fear-of-EQ and may expect such a counter and bring BH or IMMORTAL-stall...

Mal vs Scara - ex-Water player
I cannot quite place my finger on it, but I'm suspecting/feeling Dims from Life.  I'll have to investigate their opponents this round to see if we make sense to use Dims against...  if so, Steam Machine Dudes makes sense here.

Spiel vs DeathKnyte - newcomer

rob vs pwconfirm
I think we should bring something that counters Dials/stalling... Poison does this quite well.  It is possible Time will possibly guess this counter-measure from us and bring something with Purify (like a Grabbow with it in there).

tree vs RR - ex-Water MASTER

[ddevans96]

Reflectives against Air and Steammies against Life sound good, at the moment.

For Earth, we should definitely make Legit lieutenant, and possibly make it so that we have at least a 5 way quanta split after upgrades. In case of Immortal, I don't think the air or entropy NT duos are viable, but something else might work.

Time really likes to stall us early, so we should bring something that can stallbreak. I'm thinking the NT UG duo here, actually - would beat both dim and sanc stalls, I think.

Will think about Entropy and Darkness.

[rob77dp]

Reflectives against Air and Steammies against Life sound good, at the moment.

For Earth, we should definitely make Legit lieutenant, and possibly make it so that we have at least a 5 way quanta split after upgrades. In case of Immortal, I don't think the air or entropy NT duos are viable, but something else might work.  [rob]Mono-water could work for making a REALLY simple 4-way split (five-way only possible with Marks which are not in-vault)...

Time really likes to stall us early, so we should bring something that can stallbreak. I'm thinking the NT UG duo here, actually - would beat both dim and sanc stalls, I think.  [rob]Beware of RT spam as the Nymphs are VERY expensive to cast a SECOND time and then still get UG's cranked out...  But yest, UG's ignore any Dim, Sanc, or Dial stalling.

Will think about Entropy and Darkness.

Thoughts in yellow in the quote...

[ddevans96]

5 way works with the elements we have pillars/pends in - in other decks, yes, the best we can do is a robust four-way split.

RTs are a concern, true. If we do that, we should probably stuff as much quanta, especially upped quanta, as possible. If not, poison is certainly a strong option to consider as well - we can run Crawlers and/or Toads so purify is less threatening.

[ddevans96]

[23:29:38] Malignant [»] ddevans96: I think the Steam Dudes deck might need a Permafrost Shield
[23:29:47] Malignant [»] ddevans96: If Life decides to use Frogtal

Agreed.

[Legit]

I think we can use something like this vs entropy.

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I'm expecting them to use a fast deflag splash like this. The above deck is not a hard counter but it wins ~75% during testing.

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Alternatively, we can use this version, if we need crawlers elsewhere or something.

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[treebeard xiii]

my takes are this:
Air yeah safest bet would be reflective however are air going to bring a ug deck against water or save them for 'stronger' teams.

Earth is based on the likelihood of them bringing immortal or grabbow against us if the likelihood isn't high then our gravity duo shuts down the most of the decks they can bring except immortal in my opinion and grabbow would prolly be a 50/50 chance but closer i think to 65-35 for them.

I agree with the steamers against life it's just how fast they will choose to rush us if they actually do.

Dark just because he is a newcomer doesn't mean he isn't a threat odii is anything but a newcomer as for decks dependent on how early we estimate an early nymphcord set up I'd take that. Beyond that I am uncertain on darkness

If time we predict a stall a stall break would be good however nymph stallbreak is very expensive if we call wrong however pugons would work more often in my opinion.

As for my game yeah that is a major problem because we got RR and entropy so yeah our best bet is as legit has wisely suggested a rush grabbow but with a couple of answers to an entro stall have we got any other pc available like a steal as I don't like the odds of a single pc.

[ddevans96]

Even if air doesn't bring UGs, a sanc stall should fare well against most of their decks, barring a straight rush. Especially if we add in Dials, because we won't be running a poisonbow this round, most likely.

If we pop a couple queens/NTs in the gravity duo, it can potentially stand up to immortal with the right draw. I think that'd be a good bet to bring against earth.

Nymphcord against darkness...I actually like that idea.

The thing with PUgons is that if we're up against another small stall, they're going to bump it up to 31 cards, so we need to bump it up to 32, and they go to 33...etc. We have to be careful with that, otherwise I think it stands a good chance.

Agreed with a speed-oriented grabbow against entropy.

[Spielkind]

dd vs CCC
think not we will see UG here, cause they are not expecting us being a strong opponent... but looks with other matchup the best idea to sanc them!

Legit vs Gen. Meg
guess an immortal here, cause meg(a) ups wins... so mass queens best way... but me thinks more for a mono 4 split instead of gravyduo... but not sure.

Mal vs Scara - ex-Water player
me expect frogtal here, so steams with perm works best. good ideas.

Spiel vs DeathKnyte - newcomer
hell yes, darkness looks for me like a pure joke, cause me loves darkdomin ^^ no idea they will devtal or ghostmare me, but nymphcord looks the best idea...

rob vs pwconfirm
hmmm... every time me thinks of stalls in time, me get a rush... im not totally sure but hell what will happen if they go monotime-rush... pugon should work good.

tree vs RR - ex-Water MASTER
rr is a hard match-up, but entro is the problem... and honestly after being last war member of calins hood, i think our grabbow will die slowly here... and bring them good cards for going better... not sure what to bring here, but i expect a stall... its something in my head what thinks that, but honestly my predictions never works ^^