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Re: Round 1 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6822.msg75056#msg75056
« Reply #12 on: May 26, 2010, 05:31:26 am »
This is one that I've been working on. It's fast, and has only lost to a single AI3 (the Light/Gravity one with the Gravity Shields... -.-" )

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This one here focuses a lot on permanent and creature destruction, using Water for the kill. Slow, but effective. Would likely work better against a player-made deck instead of AI3.

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I've had a lot of success with this one, though once again, Gravity Shield is the bane of this deck, and to a lesser degree, massive healing/creature effecting shields.

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Re: Round 1 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6822.msg75216#msg75216
« Reply #13 on: May 26, 2010, 02:57:45 pm »
I have made the following decks, and I am still tweaking them:

A poison:
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Water+life
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Fractal (needs some more flexibility):
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Water+Air (Control heavy, but works nice):
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Water+earth (Needs some tweaking):
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If someone knows a nice trident-spam deck, I have 6 of them, so maybe I'll use it.
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Re: Round 1 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6822.msg75258#msg75258
« Reply #14 on: May 26, 2010, 05:25:23 pm »
Dictator, the decks have to be at least half water, so that first deck you posted (the Poison deck) is a no-go.


More importantly, the time for tweaking is rapidly coming to a close.  We need to finalize, and we need to do it ASAP.  So: commit.  Pick the two decks you think are the winningest, and let's get our Vault built.
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Re: Round 1 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6822.msg75260#msg75260
« Reply #15 on: May 26, 2010, 05:27:18 pm »
It's a placeholder until we get our Vault built and our first-round decks decided on.
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Re: Round 1 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6822.msg75268#msg75268
« Reply #16 on: May 26, 2010, 05:45:52 pm »
I know.

The tweaking is almost done.

But are two decks each not a little less, because everyone can use 50 cards (because the other 60 are pillars) and he doesn't have to add water pillars.

When I have got to chose tree, I would use the water+life, the water+air and this one:

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Re: Round 1 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6822.msg75357#msg75357
« Reply #17 on: May 26, 2010, 08:04:08 pm »
OK, just looking at these decks, here's my current Vault.  It's up for debate for 48 hours, then it's getting finalized.




Water Pillar x72
Arctic Squid x12
Blue Crawler x6
Chrysora x12
Flooding x4
Freeze x8
Ice Bolt x8
Ice Dragon x12
Ice Shield x12
Mind Flayer x6
Nymph's Tears x6
Purify x6
Toadfish x12
Trident x6

=182 Water cards


Aether Pillar x18
Fractal x6
Quintessence x6
Phase Dragon x6
Lobotomizer x2

Emerald Pillar x18
Forest Spirit x6
Heal x4
Thorn Carapace x2
Druidic Staff x2
Green Nymph x1
Adrenaline x6

Air Pillar x12
Fog Shield x2
Thunderstorm x2
Shockwave x6
Eagle's Eye x2


Bone Pillar x18
Poison x6
Arsenic x2
Skull Shield x1

Time Pillar x12
Reverse Time x6
Devonian Dragon x6

Stone Pillar x12
Stone Dragon x4
Protect Artifact x4
Earthquake x4
Stone Skin x2

= 178 non-Water cards


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Re: Round 1 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6822.msg75919#msg75919
« Reply #18 on: May 27, 2010, 02:27:29 pm »
Well, I am missing 2 things to build my proposed decks: a 5th shockwave, and 6 novae.

I really like the nova deck, because it is really flexible, and nice to play.

And I think you are a bit high on aether, I don't think we will use that many phase dragons, same  for the devonian.
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Re: Round 1 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6822.msg75932#msg75932
« Reply #19 on: May 27, 2010, 02:51:50 pm »
How long do we have for testing left?  I 'll try to make some decks today, although I generally trust the deckbuilders here to do well :p so otherwise I am fine just playing whatever is made.

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Re: Round 1 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6822.msg76072#msg76072
« Reply #20 on: May 27, 2010, 06:45:08 pm »
And I think 60 water pillars is a little small, because you will run in approximately 8 loses out of pillars.

*does some math*
Lets say: 13 pillars, 17 normal cards in each deck, would make 360/30*13=156 pillars in the deck.
At least half of that should be water pillars, because each deck has to have at least 50% water cards, so 50% of pillars should also be water. (yes you can make decks with only mark of water, but you can also use mono water decks, with no other pillars).
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Re: Round 1 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6822.msg76480#msg76480
« Reply #21 on: May 28, 2010, 01:16:38 pm »
So, for now I would like to change:

    More water pillarsMore shockwavesLess dragons of other elementsSome short swordsMore water, less other elementsSome Novae
Considering that, I have made the following vault:

:water :water :water 195 Water cards :water :water :water
    Water Pillar x80Arctic Squid x12Blue Crawler x9Chrysora x12Flooding x4Freeze x9Ice Bolt x9Ice Dragon x12Ice Shield x9Mind Flayer x6Nymph's Tears x12Purify x3Toadfish x12Trident x6
165 non-Water cards

4 Other cards
    Short Sword x4
:entropy 6 Entropy cards :entropy
    Nova x6
:aether 38 Aether cards :aether
    Aether Pillar x18Fractal x8Quintessence x4Phase Dragon x6Lobotomizer x2
:life 34 Life cards :life
    Emerald Pillar x15Forest Spirit x10Heal x2Thorn Carapace x2Druidic Staff x2Green Nymph x1Adrenaline x2
:air 17 Air cards :air
    Air Pillar x6Fog Shield x2Thunderstorm x2Shockwave x6Eagle's Eye x1
:death 32 Death cards :death
    Bone Pillar x15Poison x12Arsenic x4Skull Shield x1
:time 22 Time cards :time
    Time Pillar x12Reverse Time x6Devonian Dragon x4
:earth 12 Earth cards :earth
    Stone Pillar x10Protect Artifact x2
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Re: Round 1 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6822.msg76723#msg76723
« Reply #22 on: May 28, 2010, 09:06:24 pm »
These are the final builds, they may be used by everyone.

Water+Novae
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These might still be changed a little, so keep an eye on them.

Water+Life (nymphs)
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Re: Round 1 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6822.msg76933#msg76933
« Reply #23 on: May 29, 2010, 03:19:39 am »
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