We had a chat last night, and this is what we came up with:
For everyone who didn't know yet:
http://www.chatzy.com/558238724002 (
http://www.chatzy.com/558238724002)
Essence vs.
gocubbies1212 -> steam
miniwally vs.
coinich -> water + quint
nilsieboy vs.
Belthazar666 -> rush
RavingRabbid vs.
Stinnger -> speed poison
unit748596 vs.
Daxx -> entropy/water
The dictator vs.
brettbstock -> rush
wavedash vs.
Ryan666 -> life/water
Bluesky vs.
mrpaper -> poison (stall)
vinvick3714 vs.
Demagog -> winged toads
Other possible decks: Trident stall and Mindbolts.
I am going to update this decks in the main post as soon as I have finished this post. When done, we can use the rest of the time to tweak.
Oh, the whole chat:
The dictator started chat 10 minutes ago
vinvick3714 joined the chat 7 minutes ago
nilsieboy joined the chat 7 minutes ago
vinvick3714: Oh snap
nilsieboy: lol
vinvick3714: This is cool
nilsieboy: pretty epic xD
The dictator: Well, this gives un a place to chat privately
The dictator: No we only have to wait for RR
nilsieboy: i sended raving the link already
Rav joined the chat 6 minutes ago
nilsieboy: i think he's afk then
nilsieboy: ah
Rav: Almost going to sleep
nilsieboy: there he is
The dictator: AH
Rav: >_>
vinvick3714: It's not like anyone else can find the link
Rav: So, be quickc.
nilsieboy: alright
nilsieboy: we go trough every match quickly
The dictator: I won't be here very long too
nilsieboy: essence vs aether
Rav: *afking for a bit
nilsieboy: i think just a rush with 6 toadfish and 6 upped crawlers as base
The dictator: I wanted to finish the decks for everyone today, or tomorrow morning
The dictator: So we can use the rest of the time to tweak
vinvick3714: Im facing Dema on tuesday, so not that much time to tweak
nilsieboy: earth
vinvick3714: Aether's best thing is dim. sheildsk, and immortality
The dictator: Yes Nilsie, I was thinking for essence crawlers, toadfishes and 1 or two ice shields
vinvick3714: But they're highest card is 8 atk
nilsieboy: essence can handle it
nilsieboy: earth is hard
The dictator: Yes vinvick, but they know we have poison, so I don't think they will use dim shields
nilsieboy: 2 tough opponents
vinvick3714: Toadfishes might not help, cause they're all imortal
The dictator: O and vinvick, what time are you fighting dema?
vinvick3714: 2130GMT
vinvick3714: tuesday
The dictator: Because the deckbuilding phase has to be finished first
The dictator: Ah, ok
The dictator: By that time we can't tweak any more
vinvick3714: thats true
nilsieboy: for one match i'd take adrea crawlers
nilsieboy: they're pretty cheap to get out
nilsieboy: and the main control from earth is bb
nilsieboy: adrealine > bb
vinvick3714: yeah
vinvick3714: the other winged toadfishes will work pretty well
vinvick3714: for mine match
The dictator: Sorry nilsie: Titanium Shield > Adrenaline
vinvick3714: again, true
nilsieboy: we can take a few spirits
The dictator: O, I think Essence should use pendulums, that means a mindgate deck will get less water quanta
nilsieboy: for late game
vinvick3714: yep
The dictator: That is true
vinvick3714: I think a water/life would be best for miniwally vs. coinch
The dictator: Or we could do some denial, because that means we can also use enchant artifact to protect our pendulums
Rav: The Rush Deck for Ess should work great.
vinvick3714: yeah, or a water/earth trident deck
vinvick3714: *for miniwally
Rav: No Shields - Ice Bolt ignores them
Rav: A speed poison in a battle against fire might help.
nilsieboy: earth and fire are the hardest deck building for now
The dictator: Yes Rav, but we are thinking of giving essence 6 abyss crawlers and 6 toadfishes
The dictator: But some ice bolts could help
nilsieboy: i'd take adrea crawlers for earth once
The dictator: (ads to list)
Rav: They might have brought purifies.
The dictator: Ok, adrena crawlers for earth
Rav: That would screw us up.
The dictator: nilsie vs time = rush too
nilsieboy: yea
nilsieboy: i use for my 3 upgrades 3 crawlers then
vinvick3714: what about the light match?
The dictator: I think we should use the water earth deck vs light
vinvick3714: Wavedash vs. ryan666
The dictator: that means no miracles
Rav: Agree with water light
vinvick3714: Tridents, and earthquakes
Rav: *^water earth
The dictator: And denial will work really well I suppose
nilsieboy: or poison bolt (water version)
vinvick3714: Light doesn't have any PC, and they no that
vinvick3714: *know
nilsieboy: they can take EA
Rav: About fire, which is the most troublesome.
nilsieboy: and that'd screw our deck
vinvick3714: But we don't have PC either, So I don't think they would do that
nilsieboy: think of poison bolt
Rav: I forgot about Enchant Artifact for light.
nilsieboy: ice shields to slow glories
Rav: Discord?
nilsieboy: poison to weak (and annoy) them a bit
vinvick3714: yeah, why woiuld they need EA if they have glories?
nilsieboy: bolts to finish
vinvick3714: LOL
vinvick3714: that would work
nilsieboy: discord are good options to like rav said
vinvick3714: The lol was for the annoy part...
nilsieboy: hehe
vinvick3714: yeah
nilsieboy: i wanna win a match from entropy
nilsieboy: 6 novas could make funny speed decks for water xD
vinvick3714: Definately
nilsieboy: water pillars and novas to make a field of creatures with crazy abilities xD
vinvick3714: hopefully we can salvage a Dim. Sheild from aether tho
nilsieboy: toadfishes,flayers,squids,chrysoara
nilsieboy: yea
nilsieboy: we reallly need the shield
vinvick3714: yep
The dictator: Put, I'm thinking If we use poison bolt against light, we can't use it for the fire matches
nilsieboy: just thaught of that
The dictator: Because we might also want to use a poison deck
nilsieboy: we might take some purities against fire
The dictator: against aether
The dictator: Why purities?
nilsieboy: poison bolt was their favorite deck last war
The dictator: (or purifies I think you mean)
nilsieboy: whoops xD
The dictator: What is true
The dictator: Well, I'm thinking of using a rush, so poison bolt won't help that much
vinvick3714: winged toadfishes is what i'm using, definately
The dictator: So: Essence vs. Aether = rush
vinvick3714: Dema is gonna be hard, he's a lieutenant so 3 upped cards
The dictator: Nilsie vs. Time = rush
The dictator: The dictator vs. Fire = freezing rush
The dictator: vinvick vs. earth = winged toads
The dictator: Only 5 to go
vinvick3714: Wavedash vs. light Trident denial right?
nilsieboy: essence vs aether = rush
nilsieboy: don't know that vin
The dictator: I already had that one nilsie
nilsieboy: i fear EA
nilsieboy: whoops xD
vinvick3714: I'm wondering why they would have EA if they have glories
nilsieboy: for pillars
vinvick3714: especially against us
Rav: Mh...
nilsieboy: they might go for stone skin and miracle stall
nilsieboy: discords are a safer way
vinvick3714: That's true
nilsieboy: and you annoy them again xD
The dictator: Well, that is true
vinvick3714: yeah so we are going for a entropy/water deck
vinvick3714: against light
The dictator: So wavedash vs. Light: Entropy/water control
Rav: Speed poison for fire?
The dictator: Well, that could work: Rav vs. Fire : Speed poison (with freezes)
nilsieboy: what kind of entropy/water
nilsieboy: discords from entropy mark
nilsieboy: freezes/bolts and dragons?
The dictator: Antimatter, discord, some other things
nilsieboy: we don't need abilities from toadfishes and we shouldn't use them to fast
nilsieboy: ok
Rav: Which battles do we need?
The dictator: Ah, Essence has posted
The dictator: With another nice suggestion for his deck: Steam Machines
The dictator: And I have to say, I appreciate it
nilsieboy: is he online?
The dictator: I think so
nilsieboy: invite him
vinvick3714: it is a very nice deck
The dictator sends an invitation
vinvick3714: hard to believe he got it from a dream
The dictator: Well, the dream inspired him
The dictator: So maybe he just dreamed of flames in another dimmension
vinvick3714: lol
Rav: Which decks do we need?
nilsieboy: lol
vinvick3714: lets go back down the list
The dictator: Unit vs Life ; mini vs. Earth and Bluesky vs. mr paper
nilsieboy: didn't knew we had phoenixes xD
vinvick3714: Essence, is coming on
The dictator: I think
nilsieboy: don't know what for life
nilsieboy: something with bolts?
Essence joined the chat
nilsieboy: idea for life
nilsieboy: antimatters
Rav: The bolt one is the Bluesky vs MrPaper, IMHO.
The dictator: Hey welkom
Essence: Wow, almost everyone, huh?
Essence: ice.
vinvick3714: hey essence
Essence: nice, even.
vinvick3714: yep
nilsieboy: if they go for adrealine (i expect that because they know it pwns freeze)
Rav: Greetings, Master.
nilsieboy: antimatter will make them cry
vinvick3714: lol
nilsieboy: hi essence
Rav: We are already using antimatters with light.
Essence: Sup, everyone.
Essence:
The dictator: Problem nilsie, we already used the antimatters, against light
vinvick3714: We have 6, we can do 3 and 3
vinvick3714: right?
The dictator: Summary for essence:
vinvick3714: But it might be a better idea to use 6 on one
Rav: *afking, again*
nilsieboy: we really need 6 antimatters against light?
nilsieboy: we expected to take glories from them
The dictator: Essence vs. Aether : Steam Machines (I really like that deck)
Essence:
nilsieboy: i like it to
vinvick3714: great dream essence
The dictator: nilsie vs. time : Rush
The dictator: Rav vs. Fire : Speed poison
nilsieboy: i dream about other thinks...
nilsieboy: cupcakes.... xD
vinvick3714: lolz
The dictator: The dictator vs. Fire : freezing rush
The dictator: nilsie, not sandwiches
nilsieboy: nah
nilsieboy: i eat them in the morning already
nilsieboy: they have to wait =P
Essence: vs. time is going to be tough to rush, because they're built to stall. Is anyone using quakes yet?
The dictator: wavedah vs. light : Entropy / water (with discords and antimatter)
nilsieboy: we don't know
nilsieboy: first i thaught to take them against light
Essence: Antimatter is tough against Glories.
The dictator: vinvick vs. Dema : winged toads
nilsieboy: but if they take stone skin+miracle there is a chance they take EA
nilsieboy: antimatters aren't needed against light
nilsieboy: take them for life
nilsieboy: we can freeze the non adrealined creatures
nilsieboy: antimatter the adrealined/high damage ones
The dictator: OK, so no antimatters against light
The dictator: but against life
vinvick3714: alright, but still discord?
vinvick3714: against life?
The dictator: Yes vin, I think so
Essence: Vs. Light, I'd go discord+full-on stallout.
Essence: Slow them way down (no cheap attackers in unupped Light), and deck them out.
The dictator: Well, Essence, last war Light had a lot of stall decks
The dictator: And glories could be a problem vs light
Essence: Exactly, which makes decking them out easy.
Essence: take more cards than they do.
Essence:
The dictator: If we try to stall
nilsieboy: i wouldn't deck them out
Rav: Freeze and Discord.
nilsieboy: they might go for eternity in stall
Rav: Blessed Pegasi are out, and so is Light Stall.
Essence: Hmm...good point, nilsie.
The dictator: Because they will do damage
nilsieboy: and i think they'll take some glories for sure
vinvick3714: I am pretty sure they're going to use glories against us, the element of CC
nilsieboy: expect a full stall vault from them
The dictator: Which brings us back to discord
nilsieboy: so i scare decking out
The dictator: For life, we might want to take some purifies, because antimatters will fail against scorpions
Rav: I have to go now, this is the limit.
nilsieboy: ok
nilsieboy: g'night rav
vinvick3714: ok, cya
The dictator: Well, byu
The dictator: *bye
vinvick3714: g'night
vinvick3714: g'night
vinvick3714: g'night
vinvick3714: whoops, didn't know what would happen if you held down enter...
nilsieboy: maybe this for light:
The dictator: Lol
nilsieboy: entropy mark for discord
nilsieboy: and water stall for otk with bolts?
nilsieboy: i don't think they expect that
The dictator: That could work
vinvick3714: whats otk?
nilsieboy: so i don't think they'll take stone skin
nilsieboy: at least we should hope that
The dictator: So, discord + freezes + ice bolts + water pillars
vinvick3714: I think they might go with wind/light and put flying glories into play
Essence: Crap, I've gotta go too - my wife says lunch is ready.
Essence:
nilsieboy: ok
vinvick3714: its alright
nilsieboy: i'm going to sleep in some minutes to
nilsieboy: btw someone made notes of this?
The dictator: Well, I will post a summary tomorrow
nilsieboy: we had a lot of deck ideas
vinvick3714: um...
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nilsieboy: and crap like that
The dictator: I made mental notes
nilsieboy: ok
vinvick3714: whoops held it again
Essence: OK, light -- they have Reflective Shield, so Bolts are questionable.
Essence: OK, light -- they have Reflective Shield, so Bolts are questionable.
nilsieboy: good
nilsieboy: forgot taht :S
The dictator: O shut
nilsieboy: damn you light!!!
Essence: BUT, no one says we have to build a duo deck.
The dictator: Essence, Discord can do wonders against light
The dictator: because I holds of miracles, and stone skins too
nilsieboy: my grandma says!!!
vinvick3714: true, maybe dragons? rush?
The dictator: *it
nilsieboy: yea
nilsieboy: discord is best option for ligth
vinvick3714: lol, they're only shields -1 from damage
vinvick3714: discord/water
The dictator: vin what are only shields?
Essence: Mark of Entropy, pack like 2 Antimatters just in case they go dragons, and because it's nilsie, pack 3x PUFFER FISH.
vinvick3714: whoops meant they only have shields that -1 damage from our critters
nilsieboy: i don't fight light
nilsieboy: i fight beltha
vinvick3714: its not nilsie, its wavedash
Essence: Oh, crap.
Essence: My bad.
Essence: I misread it.
nilsieboy: so i take 3 abbys crawlers in my rush
Essence:
nilsieboy: np
Essence: Hey, you saw what Abyss Crawlers+Toadfish can do in a rush. It's nasty.
nilsieboy: do we have novas?
Essence: So, Light then.
Essence: Nope
nilsieboy: damn
The dictator: Essence vs.
gocubbies1212 -> Steam machines
niniwally vs.
coinich -> Don't know yet
nilsieboy vs.
Belthazar666 -> Rush
RavingRabbid vs.
Stinnger -> Speed poison
unit748596 vs.
Daxx
the dictator vs.
brettbstock
wavedash vs.
Ryan666
Bluesky vs.
mrpaper
vinvick3714 vs.
Demagog
nilsieboy: if we had that we'd try to outrush light
nilsieboy: because we'd had a chance for a second turn discord
Essence: Of course! For Light, play a Mindgate Stall.
nilsieboy: or maybe even first
nilsieboy: we have mindgates?
Essence: If they take Eternity, we can use it, too!
The dictator: unit748596 vs.
Daxx -> Unknown
The dictator vs.
brettbstock -> Rush
wavedash vs.
Ryan666 -> Unknown
Bluesky vs.
mrpaper -> Poison stall
nilsieboy: that's good
Essence: Of course we have mindgates.
nilsieboy: but we can't stall them
nilsieboy: we don't have shields :S
vinvick3714: 6 mindgates
Essence: No Dim Shield, so wave'll have to use Ice instead, but that's doable.
The dictator: vinvick3714 vs.
Demagog -> winged toads
nilsieboy: ok
nilsieboy: great idea btw
Essence: nils, you do Mindgates well, hook wavedash up.
Essence: OK, gotta bail -- good luck, you guys. You're badass.
The dictator: Are we going mindgates against light?
The dictator: Why?
Essence: And GO LOOK AT THE VAULT before you keep theorizing.
Essence: l8r
nilsieboy: bb
vinvick3714: bye
The dictator: bye
nilsieboy: and why did no one listen to my vault ideas :S
The dictator: How about adrenacrawlers for light?
nilsieboy: no bone walls,no dimensional shields
nilsieboy: don't know
The dictator: We could try to outrush them
nilsieboy: i think adreana crawlers are better for earth
vinvick3714: yeah, that might work
nilsieboy: because it's a great counter to bb
The dictator: No, titanium shield will pown
vinvick3714: adrena crawlers do 8 damage per hit
vinvick3714: i mean 8 damage per critter
The dictator: No vin 12
vinvick3714: not if they use solar shield
vinvick3714: which they might
vinvick3714: i'm thinking worst case scenario
The dictator: But no one ever uses solar shield
vinvick3714: That's also true
The dictator: Worst case with crawlers would be hope
The dictator: with luciferine and some photons
vinvick3714: Does unupped mirror shield stop 1 damage
nilsieboy: i think mindgates might work
vinvick3714: But we can cc that
The dictator: But forest spirits can handle that
nilsieboy: but i just thaught of this
vinvick3714: yeah
The dictator: nilsie, why mindgates
nilsieboy: if they use pendulums to they screw quanta
The dictator: If they take a deck out deck, that will fail
nilsieboy: with mindgate we'd use their stall against them
The dictator: and pendulums will fail too
vinvick3714: I think mindgate stall would work
nilsieboy: think vin
nilsieboy: they wouldn't go mono for stall
nilsieboy: so they take pendulums
vinvick3714: yep
The dictator: I think we should use adrena crawlers for light
nilsieboy: we can't take their mark so we're screwed with quanta
The dictator: and discord/antimatter for life
vinvick3714: yep
vinvick3714: Whoa, would that be a trio deck?
The dictator: That leaves only mini vs. Earth to be discussed
vinvick3714: I have never seen a trio deck
The dictator: What do you mean vinvick
nilsieboy: no discord
nilsieboy: we don't have enough of them
nilsieboy: discord vs light
vinvick3714: Oh, I thought we would use them
nilsieboy: antimatters vs life
vinvick3714: Discord to stop miracle
The dictator: If we take adrena crawlers, we can't use discords against light
vinvick3714: Never mind, I misread it
The dictator: And I think rush will win against light
vinvick3714: yeah
The dictator: And spirits will beat hope
The dictator: And scorpions too
nilsieboy: i don't know
nilsieboy: then we have to take discord vs earth
The dictator: Why do we 'have to'
The dictator: adrenaline won't work against earth too
The dictator: because of titanium shield
nilsieboy: but bb can screw us to
nilsieboy: or we take quinted squid/dragon
vinvick3714: you got to hate basalisks blood
nilsieboy: 6 turns
nilsieboy: and it's better then freeze (that's the bad part)
The dictator: yes a quinted stall might work against earth
nilsieboy: why does it hate poor freeze
vinvick3714: what if they use a Earth/gravity pulvy, oty,and quanta denial
nilsieboy: and we'd split water pillars/some pendulums then
nilsieboy: quint pwns their oty
The dictator: with squid, mind flayer and quints
nilsieboy: mind flayer needed?
The dictator: with pillars and pendulums that should work
vinvick3714: what would we lobo?
The dictator: Well, can be fractalled
vinvick3714: but if they use titanium shield, that'd be useless
The dictator: Any of element things, like otys and golems
nilsieboy: fractal < earthquake
The dictator: Yes that is true
nilsieboy: quinted dragons and squids is enough i think
The dictator: Well, that means quint + squid + dragon (+ mind flayer)
nilsieboy: one squid at the start to slow them
nilsieboy: we can take a few mind flayers
nilsieboy: i hope they don't go at the control way
nilsieboy: then we can use flayers on shriekers so they can't burrow
nilsieboy: and squids can freeze them then again
nilsieboy: but i'm going to sleep now
The dictator: Well, with quint, that will work
nilsieboy: g'night everyone
The dictator: Nilsie, you can also keep them frozen
nilsieboy: and this really helped for some decks
vinvick3714: g'night
nilsieboy: copy this stuff ok?
nilsieboy: and paste it somewhere
nilsieboy: but it's really important stuff
nilsieboy: also maybe for later rounds
vinvick3714: Dictator, would it be too much to put up these decks on our decks round 1 thing, so we can make them coherent decks?
nilsieboy: cya
The dictator: Vinvick, I will do tomorrow
The dictator: I'm going to sleep
vinvick3714: Are we going to come here again, or is this chatroom a 1 time thing
vinvick3714: All right, g'night
The dictator: We can come back
