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Re: Pre-War: Deck Layout https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55815.msg1160286#msg1160286
« Reply #12 on: October 14, 2014, 04:30:55 am »
In my opinion, ranked from most important to least important additions from ddevans suggestions:
3 Chrysaora
1 Arsenic, 1 Bonewall
1 Amethyst Pillar, Entropy Pendulum
1 Gravity Pendulum
3 Sapphire Charger

My suggestions:
-1 Ice Shield (11->10), -2 Nymph Queen (10->8 ), +3 Chrysaora (3->6)

Then we can decide what we want more: Darkness, Earth, or Air (we have one of each duo and then extra cards for possibly a second, but we can take out the extra cards)
-3 Basilisk Blood (8->5)

-1 Steal (4->3), -2 Nightmare (7->5), -1 Vampire Stiletto (3->2)

-3 Shockwave (8->5), -2 Thunderstorm (4->2), -3 Owl's Eye (6->3)
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Re: Pre-War: Deck Layout https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55815.msg1160292#msg1160292
« Reply #13 on: October 14, 2014, 05:29:14 am »
Alright, this is how I'm looking at it:

1) Make the ice/2 queen > chrysa swap - 8 cards to add, 15 to pull out
2) Remove 1 each of BB, stiletto, shockwave, tstorm, OE from that pool, and thus keep them in the vault - 8 cards to add, 10 cards to pull out

So, we can swap out 8 of the following 10 cards: 2x BB, 1x steal, 2x nightmare, 2x shockwave, 1x tstorm, 2x OE

Personally, I'd also keep the steal and one nightmare or the remaining tstorm (the latter per rob in chat), and swap out the rest for those suggestions.
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Re: Pre-War: Deck Layout https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55815.msg1160298#msg1160298
« Reply #14 on: October 14, 2014, 06:18:11 am »
Alright, this is how I'm looking at it:

1) Make the ice/2 queen > chrysa swap - 8 cards to add, 15 to pull out
2) Remove 1 each of BB, stiletto, shockwave, tstorm, OE from that pool, and thus keep them in the vault - 8 cards to add, 10 cards to pull out

So, we can swap out 8 of the following 10 cards: 2x BB, 1x steal, 2x nightmare, 2x shockwave, 1x tstorm, 2x OE

Personally, I'd also keep the steal and one nightmare or the remaining tstorm (the latter per rob in chat), and swap out the rest for those suggestions.

I'll third the -1 Ice Shield -2 Nymph Queen for +3 Chrysaora.

Also, I put forward the following suggestions:
-2 BB for +1 Arsenic +1 Bone Wall
-1 Steal -1 Stiletto for +1 Amethyst Pillar +1 Entropy Pendulum
-2 Nightmare -1 OE -1 Shockwave for +1 Gravity Pendulum +3 Charger
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Re: Pre-War: Deck Layout https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55815.msg1160299#msg1160299
« Reply #15 on: October 14, 2014, 06:26:00 am »
I just realized we currently have zero dry spells - that needs fixed somehow. We should have at least 4, to splash where needed.
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Re: Pre-War: Deck Layout https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55815.msg1160301#msg1160301
« Reply #16 on: October 14, 2014, 06:56:15 am »
I just realized we currently have zero dry spells - that needs fixed somehow. We should have at least 4, to splash where needed.

The two extra water quanta in the "Mono Support" section (one pillar one pendulum) can be scrapped in favor of dry spell, as pillars and pends are easy to get later and we have enough for now. Possibly 2 more quanta sources because of this to bring the total to 4 dry spell.

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Re: Pre-War: Deck Layout https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55815.msg1160302#msg1160302
« Reply #17 on: October 14, 2014, 07:06:44 am »
So, we want to add:
+3 Chrysaora
+4 Dry Spell
+1 Arsenic
+1 Bone Wall
+1 Amethyst Pillar
+1 Entropy Pendulum
+1 Gravity Pendulum
+3 Sapphire Charger
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+15 total

and I suggest achieving it by removing:
-2 Ice Shield
-2 Nymph Queen
-1 Water Pendulum
-1 Water Tower
-2 Basilisk Blood
-1 Steal
-1 Vampire Stiletto
-2 Nightmare
-1 Owl's Eye
-1 Shockwave
{OR
-1 Thunderstorm, -1 Charger
}
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-15 total

leaving the vault total unchanged (at 405).

I think 2 Chargers would be enough for Gravity-splashing so I'd prefer -1 Charger in the _OR_, above.
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Re: Pre-War: Deck Layout https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55815.msg1160375#msg1160375
« Reply #18 on: October 14, 2014, 03:56:43 pm »
oh guys, very awesome job! im not sure with only 8 nymphs... imho we would need more for more punsh, but im with your suggestions and wanna go with them! it looks all very good!
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Re: Pre-War: Deck Layout https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55815.msg1160378#msg1160378
« Reply #19 on: October 14, 2014, 04:01:11 pm »
oh guys, very awesome job! im not sure with only 8 nymphs... imho we would need more for more punsh, but im with your suggestions and wanna go with them! it looks all very good!

RE: Queen quantity...  It should be noted that in most every case NT (of which the vault should be starting at 10) can be 1-for-1 substituted for a Queen with minimal drop-off.
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Re: Pre-War: Deck Layout https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55815.msg1160379#msg1160379
« Reply #20 on: October 14, 2014, 04:04:37 pm »
sure, rob, but in my expierence with war and water we still needed mooore! :-) but as said, i´m with your suggestions!
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