Pre-War: Deck Layout

[ddevans96]

This thread is not for discussing deck building, only potential changes to the raw layout. For deck building, go here.

This is a rough guideline for what our starting vault should look like. It is very flexible - in this form, it gives us 9 decks and 125 extra cards, which we can potentially mix and match to create fifteen or more decks to begin with, if we are careful about it, but we can modify these numbers if we desire. The following spoiler is very large.

Spoiler for Deck Layout:

Spoiler for Bows and Stalls:

Grabbow (30 cards)

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Utility Bow / Trio (30 cards)

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Stall A (40 cards)

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Stall B (40 cards)

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140 cards

Spoiler for Domins and Stallbreaks:

Domination A (30 cards)

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Domination B (30 cards)

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Stall Breaker (30 cards)

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+90=230 cards

Spoiler for Wild Cards:

Wild Card A (30 cards)

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Wild Card B (30 cards)

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+60=290 cards

Spoiler for Support:

Mono Support (20 cards)

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Bow Support (20 cards)

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Stall Support (20 cards)

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Domin / Break Support (20 cards)

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Miscellaneous Support (35 cards)

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+115=405 cards

Some notes:
~Our stalls do not have to be 40 cards, nor do our other decks have to be 30 cards. In the latter case, we put any extra cards into the support categories. For stalls, even if we can build it to be less than 40, fill it up, and put the rest of the cards, if more than 40, in support.

~This system excludes a true rush. While a true rush is rarely a good idea in War, as often you'll want at least some form of control, if we choose to have one avaliable, it can go as either a wild card, or the necessary cards can go in support.

~The grabbow is locked in there because it's powerful, versatile, and easy to remake if we lose it. Utility bow / trio means something like a physalia/sundial deck, or an immolation deck, or a Nymphcord, or anything similar. Stalls, dominators, and stall breakers should be self explanatory.

~These sections are not limiting. For example, a domin or stall can have stall breaking features in it. The Stall Breaker is meant to outline a deck that best serves that purpose, so we know we have a good deck in case we're expecting a stall. Also, if we decide, we can completely replace a section - for example, if we feel the uses of domination decks are fairly covered, we can swap the second one out for a rush, or another bow, or another stall, or more support. In general, though, the system here should be good, and anything else can be done using the support cards.

[rob77dp]

I think the layout looks good - it could benefit, I think, from sub-spoilers for each deck archetype within the currently-gigantic spoiler.

[Spielkind]

looks very good! guess we can go it that way!

[ddevans96]

I have amended the Deck Layout to be 405 cards, from my projected 390. 405 will be our vault size after my final bid.

[ddevans96]

Bumping this thread because it's important.

[Legit]

WIP WIP WIP

Spoiler for Deck Layout:

Spoiler for Bows and Stalls:

Grabbow (30 cards) - Flow

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4vh 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 590 590 590 590 590 590 5i4 5i4 5i4 5i4 5ie 5ie 5if 5jm 5jm 5jm 5jm 6rl 7dm 7gm 7gm 7gm 7gm 8pm

Trio (30 cards) - Unstable, Soldier

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5f9 5f9 5f9 5i4 5i4 5i4 5i4 5i4 5i4 5i4 5i4 5ig 5ig 5ig 5ig 5io 5io 5jm 5jm 5jm 5oc 5oc 5pu 5pu 7gk 7gk 7i6 7i6 7ms 7oe 8pr

 

Stall A (40 cards) - Hurricane, Soldier

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5i4 5i4 5i4 5i4 5i4 5i4 5i4 5i4 5i8 5i8 5i8 5i8 5i9 5i9 5i9 5ia 5ia 5ia 5ia 5ia 5jm 5jm 5jm 5jm 5jm 5jm 5jm 5oh 5oh 5on 5on 5on 5on 5on 7gr 7gr 7gr 7n5 7n5 7n5 8pr

Stall B (40 cards) - Miracle on Ice, Soldier

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5i4 5i4 5i4 5i4 5i4 5i4 5i4 5i8 5i8 5i8 5i8 5i8 5i8 5ia 5ia 5io 5io 5jm 5jm 5jm 5jm 5jm 5jm 5jm 5jm 5jm 5lh 5lh 5lm 5lm 5lm 5lm 5lm 5lm 7gp 7gp 7gp 7k2 7k2 7k2 8pq

-140 cards-

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Domination A (30 cards) - Toadmare, Soldier

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5i4 5i4 5i4 5i4 5i4 5i4 5i4 5ie 5ie 5ie 5ie 5ie 5jm 5jm 5jm 5jm 5jm 5up 5up 5up 5v1 5v1 5v1 5v1 7gm 7gm 7gp 7gp 7tb 7tb 8pt

Domination B (30 cards) - Serpentine, Soldier

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595 595 595 595 595 5i4 5i4 5i4 5i4 5id 5id 5ie 5ie 5ie 5io 5jm 5jm 5jm 5jm 5jm 5jm 5jm 5jm 5jm 7gm 7gm 7gs 7gs 7gs 7gs 8pm

Spoiler for OLD "Domination B (30 cards)" with Discord:

Legit's Original suggestion Domination B w/ Disco

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4sp 4vl 4vl 4vl 4vl 5i4 5i4 5i4 5i4 5i4 5i4 5i4 5i4 5i4 5i4 5i4 5i4 5i4 5ia 5ie 5ie 5ie 5ig 5ig 5io 5io 5jm 6ts 6ve 6ve 8pj

Stall Breaker (31 cards) - Arctic PU-gons, Soldier

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5i4 5i4 5i4 5io 5jm 5jm 5jm 5jm 5jm 5jm 5jm 5jm 5jm 61r 61r 61r 61r 61r 61t 61t 61t 61t 61t 61t 622 7gt 7gt 7gt 7i6 7i6 7i6 8pu

-231 cards-

Spoiler for Wild Cards:

Wild Card A (30 cards) - Steam Machine Dudes

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5f6 5f6 5f6 5fb 5fb 5fb 5i4 5i4 5i4 5i4 5i7 5i7 5i7 5ii 5ii 5ii 5ii 5ii 5io 5io 5jm 5jm 5jm 5jm 7gk 7gk 7gk 7i6 7i6 7i6 8po

Wild Card B (null) - n/a

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No deck in this slot now.

-261 cards-

Spoiler for Support:

Mono Support (30 cards)

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5i4 5i6 5i6 5i6 5i9 5i9 5i9 5ia 5ia 5ib 5ib 5ib 5ib 5id 5id 5ie 5ie 5ie 5ig 5ig 5ig 5ig 5ig 5ig 5ii 5ii 5ii 5io 5io 5jm 8pp

Bow Support (40 cards)

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4t5 4vh 4vj 4vj 4vj 590 590 5c1 5c1 5f6 5f6 5f6 5i4 5i4 5i4 5i4 5i4 5i6 5i6 5i7 5i7 5ib 5ib 5ic 5ie 5if 5jm 5jm 5jm 5jm 5jm 5jm 5og 5og 61q 61q 61q 61q 61q 61q 8pp

Stall Support (20 cards)

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5i8 5i8 5i8 5i8 5lh 5lh 5li 5li 5li 5lm 5lm 5lm 5oh 5oh 5ol 5ol 5ol 5on 5on 5on 8pp

Domin / Break Support (20 cards)

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4vc 4vl 4vl 4vl 4vl 50u 50u 55k 55k 55k 55p 55p 55p 55r 55r 55r 55r 576 576 5up 8pp

Miscellaneous Support (34 cards)

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52q 52q 52r 52r 595 595 595 5i5 5i5 5i5 5ic 5ic 5ic 5rk 5rk 5rk 5rk 5rk 5rk 5rp 5rp 5rp 5rp 5ur 5v1 5v1 5v1 61t 61t 61t 622 622 624 624 8pp

-405 cards-

Edit #1 2014-10-09 by rob77dp - Modified "Utility bow / Trio (30 cards)" for QP's and moved Legit's previous deck to a spoiler.  Modified "Domination B (30 cards)" from Discord Entropy Duo to Serpentine Earth Duo and moved Legit's previous deck to a spoiler.  Added "Unstable Nymphs, Soldier" as Wild Card A (30 cards) suggestion.  Added "Steam Machine dudes" as Wild Card B (30 cards) suggestion.  Added suggestions for Mono; Bow; Stall; Domin/Break; and Miscellaneous support sections.

Edit #2 2014-10-09 by rob77dp - Modified support sections suggestions with quanta etc per dd's freenode chat comments and suggestions.

Edit #3 2014-10-11 by rob77dp - Moved Unstable Nymphs from Wild Card A to Trio slot.  Relabeled Steamies-deck from Wild Card B to Wild Card A and blanked-out Wild Card A (for now at least).  QPbow removed as a deck with most parts kept as Grabbow spares - all QP's removed.  Various deck titles edited for descriptiveness and accuracy.  Revised total-card-counts to match changes this revision.  Expanded Bow support and Mono support - mostly with cards from the eliminated QPbow (-QP's, mainly) and things Water thrives on like NT, Squid, Ice Shield, etc.

[ddevans96]

Alright, great start. Just have to note that it also has to fit vault restrictions - we can only fit one bow in there, and the second bow is going to have to be changed somehow. Honestly, I think we should make one bow run on QPs, so we can still run two in the first round if we want to.

[rob77dp]

*NOTICE*
I have updated Legit's WIP Deck Layout post complete with edit summary and labels in the post!

[ddevans96]

Alright, rob's update of the deck layout is where we're going to work from now. At this point, we just need to work out the details.

Personally, I'm considering these cards: extra entropy quanta (for discord/NT purple duo), extra gravity quanta (for Nymphcord), extra chrysaoras (for death duo option).

[Legit]

VAULT BASED ON CARDS IN ABOVE DECK LAYOUT

IF YOU CHANGE THE DECK LAYOUT PLEASE EDIT THIS POST AS WELL

Spoiler for Hidden:

(2 Other, 2 Total)
2 gavel

(18 Entropy, 20 Total)
1 amythest pillar
2 entropy pendulum
2 lycanthrope
4 discord
9 nova

(16 Earth, 36 Total)
8 graboid
8 basilisk blood

(2 Life, 38 Total)
2 forest spirit

(244 Water, 282 Total)
56 water pillar
65 water pendulum
14 toadfish
2 mind flayer
13 abyss crawler
14 ice bolt
5 freeze
9 arctic squid
7 ice dragon
8 trident
11 ice shield
9 purify
10 nymph queen
8 steam machine
3 chrysaora
10 nymph's tears

(13 Fire, 295 Total)
7 deflagration
3 immolation
3 rage potion

(26 Air, 321 Total)
3 wind pillar
3 air pendulum
2 fog shield
4 thunderstorm
8 shockwave
6 owl's eye

(19 Light, 340 Total)
4 morning star
9 sanctuary
6 miracle

(14 Darkness, 354 Total)
4 steal
7 nightmare
3 vampire stilleto

(25 Aether, 379 Total)
5 parallel universe
9 dimensional shield
3 fractal
6 lightning
2 silence

(12 Gravity, 391 Total)
3 gravity pillar
2 gravity pendulum
3 gravity shield
4 otyugh

(4 Death, 395 Total)
2 arsenic
2 bonewall

(10 Time, 405 Total)
6 reverse time
4 sundial

Edit 2014-10-11 by rob77dp to update for deck layout Edit #3.  Please check my math - somewhere is a math error or a counting error of 3 cards. 

Edit by Malignant (2014-10-13): 13 Toadfish -> 14, 9 Ice Shield -> 11, numbers fixed and stuff

[rob77dp]

*NOTICE*
I have again updated Legit's WIP Deck Layout post complete with edit summary and labels in the post!

[ddevans96]

Cards that aren't in the vault that I feel should be:

+1 amethyst pillar, +1 entropy pendulum (support for entropy duo)
+3 chrysaora, +1 arsenic, 1 bonewall (support for death duo/chrysadials)
+1 gravity pendulum (support for nymphcord)
+3 sapphire charger (support for gravity duo)
total=11

Other than these, I'm rather happy with the vault. I think we can safely take out some of the extra backup cards from other decks to place these in.